Re: [Drakelist] A dumb ? maybe TR-7 case color
It is probably me (wife will testify regarding my sock selection) but I would swear my TR7 sticky paint is a shade of muddy brown. Especially when placed beside something black. Seems same as the newer RV7 and MN7 non-sticky texture coating. Is it just me? Curt On 10/27/2011 4:29 PM, Garey Barrell wrote: Joe - Interesting. I have two replacement cabinets, and both are just painted black. I do know that many of the accessory cabinets I have are the very dark gray (kinda like St. James gray, more black than gray) and are of the vinyl clad material. I think that same material was used on some of the later 4 Series accessory cabinets as well. Wattmeters, etc. -- 73, Garey - K4OAH St Charles, IL Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Joe Pyles wrote: The color of the TR7 case both sticky paint and vinyl clad was dark gray. Some time after the production of ham radios was stopped, Drake made replacement cases for the 7 line that were black vinyl clad. 73, Joe Pyles KC9LAD At 04:34 PM 10/27/2011, you wrote: Probably will decrease the desirability somewhat. They are not black but a dark brown. ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] A dumb ? maybe TR-7 case color
It could be both Curt. I have two TR7s and a mobile TR7 cover that look black to me. However, I think Drake called it TR7 grey. The TR7 I bought brand new in 1979, has the so-called sticky paint as does the optional mobile cover I bought at the same time, they both look black. The sticky paint and the non-sticky paint look the same color black to me, just the texture is different. Having said that if you go shopping for cloths, something I rarely do anymore since I'm retired, or paint you'll find that there are many shades of black. I have a pair of black dress pants that do NOT go with any black shirt or jacket that I own because in the sun light the pants look dark brown. So call it what you want, black isn't just black anymore, and maybe it never was! :-) Steve w7jsc - Original Message - From: Curt cptc...@flash.net To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [Drakelist] A dumb ? maybe TR-7 case color It is probably me (wife will testify regarding my sock selection) but I would swear my TR7 sticky paint is a shade of muddy brown. Especially when placed beside something black. Seems same as the newer RV7 and MN7 non-sticky texture coating. Is it just me? Curt On 10/27/2011 4:29 PM, Garey Barrell wrote: Joe - Interesting. I have two replacement cabinets, and both are just painted black. I do know that many of the accessory cabinets I have are the very dark gray (kinda like St. James gray, more black than gray) and are of the vinyl clad material. I think that same material was used on some of the later 4 Series accessory cabinets as well. Wattmeters, etc. -- 73, Garey - K4OAH St Charles, IL Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Joe Pyles wrote: The color of the TR7 case both sticky paint and vinyl clad was dark gray. Some time after the production of ham radios was stopped, Drake made replacement cases for the 7 line that were black vinyl clad. 73, Joe Pyles KC9LAD At 04:34 PM 10/27/2011, you wrote: Probably will decrease the desirability somewhat. They are not black but a dark brown. ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
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They all look black to me, Curt. But then, I confuse socks too, hi. 73, Don, WB5HAK ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
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Especially if you have a convertible like I have! Steve, W1ES/4 -Original Message- From: Garey Barrell k4...@mindspring.com Sent: Oct 28, 2011 2:08 PM To: Don Cunningham d...@martineer.net Cc: drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] A dumb ? maybe TR-7 case color The color temperature of the light has a LOT to do with the 'color' that you see. Especially now with CFLs that come in multiple variations of 'white'. The 'Daylight' or 6500 degree Kelvin CFLs are great for natural color for photography. PLUS they are a LOT cooler than the old 500W photoflood bulbs that we used to use! Best is good ol' sunlight, which is why you never realize you have mismatched socks until you go outside to get into the car! By the way, should some smart-aleck notice, and be rude enough mention, your different socks, merely tell them that you're glad they like them, you have another pair at home just like them! -- 73, Garey - K4OAH St Charles, IL Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Don Cunningham wrote: They all look black to me, Curt. But then, I confuse socks too, hi. 73, Don, WB5HAK ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
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Garey is absolutely right, I never thought the type light made that much difference until recently when the XYL and I bought some new furniture and in the showroom under fluorescent lights our sofa/recliners appeared brown but when we took a swatch of the material outside under natural light they are definitely green! Don - I thought I was the only one who confused 'dem things on my feet? ;-) Dino KL0S On Oct282011, at 1408 PM, Garey Barrell wrote: The color temperature of the light has a LOT to do with the 'color' that you see. Especially now with CFLs that come in multiple variations of 'white'. The 'Daylight' or 6500 degree Kelvin CFLs are great for natural color for photography. PLUS they are a LOT cooler than the old 500W photoflood bulbs that we used to use! Best is good ol' sunlight, which is why you never realize you have mismatched socks until you go outside to get into the car! By the way, should some smart-aleck notice, and be rude enough mention, your different socks, merely tell them that you're glad they like them, you have another pair at home just like them! -- 73, Garey - K4OAH St Charles, IL Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Don Cunningham wrote: They all look black to me, Curt. But then, I confuse socks too, hi. 73, Don, WB5HAK ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] A dumb ? maybe TR-7 case color
Mine had the sticky paint. I found a NOS replacement on ebay. If you have time, just keep looking for the newer one. Jay na6s On 10/27/2011 2:23 PM, Joe Pyles wrote: The color of the TR7 case both sticky paint and vinyl clad was dark gray. Some time after the production of ham radios was stopped, Drake made replacement cases for the 7 line that were black vinyl clad. 73, Joe Pyles KC9LAD At 04:34 PM 10/27/2011, you wrote: Probably will decrease the desirability somewhat. They are not black but a dark brown. ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] A dumb ? maybe TR-7 case color
My TR-7 case is the sticky paint and just looks bad can i paint it a nice semi gloss black and if i ever sell it will it hurt the resale price just for FYI n9kjk From: drakelist-requ...@zerobeat.net drakelist-requ...@zerobeat.net To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:00 AM Subject: Drakelist Digest, Vol 40, Issue 50 Send Drakelist mailing list submissions to drakelist@zerobeat.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to drakelist-requ...@zerobeat.net You can reach the person managing the list at drakelist-ow...@zerobeat.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Drakelist digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: no output on dummy load TR-7 (Ron) 2. Re: made more money (sebdesnCC) 3. Re: made more money (john) 4. Re: no output on dummy load TR-7 (Jim Shorney) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron wd8...@yahoo.com To: drakelist@zerobeat.net drakelist@zerobeat.net, ARNIE PATTON n9...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Drakelist] no output on dummy load TR-7 Message-ID: 1319662748.47781.yahoomailclas...@web161406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Arnie, Not exactly sure about the dummy load, but the TR7 (actually all Drakes) put out surprisingly low average power.? On a W4 with a peak hold adapter, my TR7 puts out about 160-180 watts.? On averages it looks like about 40 watts. One question is where and how are you measuring the dummy load power?? In line watt meter, or voltage across the DL? ? What is the s/power meter on the TR7 saying for ant vs DL? ? 73, Ron WD8SBB --- On Wed, 10/26/11, ARNIE PATTON n9...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ARNIE PATTON n9...@yahoo.com Subject: [Drakelist] no output on dummy load TR-7 To: drakelist@zerobeat.net drakelist@zerobeat.net Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2011, 1:03 PM radio sat for 15 years on my antennas it puts out 10-40 watts all bands put on dummy load has no output have service man.book??have not opened up as of today still has great recv. and everything else work need advice p/s is the PS7 supply was my uncles made my first contacts on and i do remember he had it driving a 30L-1 amp could he had turned the output drive down for the amp? n9kjk ? -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.zerobeat.net/pipermail/drakelist/attachments/20111026/e805b698/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:29:22 -0600 From: sebdesnCC sebd...@comcast.net To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] made more money Message-ID: 01cc9426$54a48d00$fdeda700$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Couldn't figure out what you guys were talkin about,till I looked in my spam folder,and Norton AV got it, and sent it there Bud W0HG -Original Message- From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] On Behalf Of ron Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:29 PM To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] made more money looks like another spam/scam getting through via someone's email address. Personally I do not see how anyone can make 12,000 a month or something to that effect unless you're a CEO with outrageous bonuses to boot. (smile) 73 Ron, wb1hga ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:53:43 -0400 From: john joh...@nc.rr.com To: ron ronc...@verizon.net,drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] made more money Message-ID: 6.2.1.2.2.20111026195321.037e0...@pop-server.nc.rr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Personally I do not see how anyone can make 12,000 a month or something to that effect unless you're a CEO with outrageous bonuses to boot. Upper middle class money these days... John -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:25:36 -0500 From: Jim Shorney jshor...@inebraska.com To: drakelist@zerobeat.net drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] no output on dummy load TR-7 Message-ID: 20111027002528.6ebe13b3...@mail02.inebraska.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote: Not exactly sure about the dummy load, but the TR7 (actually all Drakes) put out surprisingly low average power. On a W4 with a peak hold
Re: [Drakelist] A dumb ? maybe TR-7 case color
Probably will decrease the desirability somewhat. They are not black but a dark brown. There is a well documented approach to renewing the sticky paint. Using a treatment with oven cleaner and a silicone sealant like amorall. http://www.wb4hfn.com/DRAKE/DrakeArticles/StickPaintFix.htm Curt KU8L On 10/27/2011 3:19 PM, ARNIE PATTON wrote: My TR-7 case is the sticky paint and just looks bad can i paint it a nice semi gloss black and if i ever sell it will it hurt the resale price just for FYI n9kjk *From:* drakelist-requ...@zerobeat.net drakelist-requ...@zerobeat.net *To:* drakelist@zerobeat.net *Sent:* Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:00 AM *Subject:* Drakelist Digest, Vol 40, Issue 50 Send Drakelist mailing list submissions to drakelist@zerobeat.net mailto:drakelist@zerobeat.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to drakelist-requ...@zerobeat.net mailto:drakelist-requ...@zerobeat.net You can reach the person managing the list at drakelist-ow...@zerobeat.net mailto:drakelist-ow...@zerobeat.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Drakelist digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: no output on dummy load TR-7 (Ron) 2. Re: made more money (sebdesnCC) 3. Re: made more money (john) 4. Re: no output on dummy load TR-7 (Jim Shorney) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron wd8...@yahoo.com mailto:wd8...@yahoo.com To: drakelist@zerobeat.net mailto:drakelist@zerobeat.net drakelist@zerobeat.net mailto:drakelist@zerobeat.net,ARNIE PATTON n9...@yahoo.com mailto:n9...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Drakelist] no output on dummy load TR-7 Message-ID: 1319662748.47781.yahoomailclas...@web161406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com mailto:1319662748.47781.yahoomailclas...@web161406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Arnie, Not exactly sure about the dummy load, but the TR7 (actually all Drakes) put out surprisingly low average power.? On a W4 with a peak hold adapter, my TR7 puts out about 160-180 watts.? On averages it looks like about 40 watts. One question is where and how are you measuring the dummy load power?? In line watt meter, or voltage across the DL? ? What is the s/power meter on the TR7 saying for ant vs DL? ? 73, Ron WD8SBB --- On Wed, 10/26/11, ARNIE PATTON n9...@yahoo.com mailto:n9...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ARNIE PATTON n9...@yahoo.com mailto:n9...@yahoo.com Subject: [Drakelist] no output on dummy load TR-7 To: drakelist@zerobeat.net mailto:drakelist@zerobeat.net drakelist@zerobeat.net mailto:drakelist@zerobeat.net Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2011, 1:03 PM radio sat for 15 years on my antennas it puts out 10-40 watts all bands put on dummy load has no output have service man.book??have not opened up as of today still has great recv. and everything else work need advice p/s is the PS7 supply was my uncles made my first contacts on and i do remember he had it driving a 30L-1 amp could he had turned the output drive down for the amp? n9kjk ? -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net mailto:Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.zerobeat.net/pipermail/drakelist/attachments/20111026/e805b698/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:29:22 -0600 From: sebdesnCC sebd...@comcast.net mailto:sebd...@comcast.net To: drakelist@zerobeat.net mailto:drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] made more money Message-ID: 01cc9426$54a48d00$fdeda700$@net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Couldn't figure out what you guys were talkin about,till I looked in my spam folder,and Norton AV got it, and sent it there Bud W0HG -Original Message- From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] On Behalf Of ron Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:29 PM To: drakelist@zerobeat.net mailto:drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] made more money looks like another spam/scam getting through via someone's email address. Personally I do not see how anyone can make 12,000 a month or something to that effect unless you're a CEO with outrageous bonuses to boot. (smile) 73 Ron, wb1hga ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net mailto:Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:53:43 -0400 From: john joh...@nc.rr.com
Re: [Drakelist] A dumb ? maybe TR-7 case color
Arnie - Not really. Originals were a black with a brownish cast to it, but unfortunately didn't hold up very well. There have been a few 'procedures' for repairing the paint, with 'some' success. They later went to another paint (non-sticky) which was more black than anything else. Drake sold replacement cabinet covers late in production that WERE just semi-flat black, similar to the 4 Series cabinets. I don't know if any were new units originally shipped with the black cabinets, but all the replacements cabinets were black. If a TR-7 is in good condition, the black cover would make no difference to me. -- 73, Garey - K4OAH St Charles, IL Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com ARNIE PATTON wrote: My TR-7 case is the sticky paint and just looks bad can i paint it a nice semi gloss black and if i ever sell it will it hurt the resale price just for FYI n9kjk ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] A dumb ? maybe TR-7 case color
The color of the TR7 case both sticky paint and vinyl clad was dark gray. Some time after the production of ham radios was stopped, Drake made replacement cases for the 7 line that were black vinyl clad. 73, Joe Pyles KC9LAD At 04:34 PM 10/27/2011, you wrote: Probably will decrease the desirability somewhat. They are not black but a dark brown. ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] A dumb ? maybe TR-7 case color
Joe - Interesting. I have two replacement cabinets, and both are just painted black. I do know that many of the accessory cabinets I have are the very dark gray (kinda like St. James gray, more black than gray) and are of the vinyl clad material. I think that same material was used on some of the later 4 Series accessory cabinets as well. Wattmeters, etc. -- 73, Garey - K4OAH St Charles, IL Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Joe Pyles wrote: The color of the TR7 case both sticky paint and vinyl clad was dark gray. Some time after the production of ham radios was stopped, Drake made replacement cases for the 7 line that were black vinyl clad. 73, Joe Pyles KC9LAD At 04:34 PM 10/27/2011, you wrote: Probably will decrease the desirability somewhat. They are not black but a dark brown. ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] A dumb ? maybe TR-7 case color
The TR-7 line cabinets where always a gray color, either the early “ sticky “ paint or a textured gray vinyl finish. The later replacement cabinets were black since that was what they used for some of their satellite equipment cabinets. Some people have striped the sticky paint down to the underlying black base color or have repainted them black. I have TR-7’s with all three style cases. The black vinyl ones where purchased new. 73, Gary___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
