Re: [Drakelist] R4A on an inverter

2011-07-20 Thread geoffrey mendelson


On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Neil M Califano wrote:

The power consumption of the R4a is 60 watts and I'd like to run the  
radio off my 12 volt car cigarette lighter using a 130 watt PSW  
inverter. I think the fuse is 10 amps. So 12.5 volts x 10 amps=125  
watts. But I heard of fuses blowing running only laptops. It looks  
good on paper, but practically will this work?



Probably not.

1. The inverter is rated 130VA (you can look up the reason why, and  
what a VA (volt amp) is, but suffice it to say that a 130VA inverter  
will max out (and possibly go fizzle pop without a good fuse or  
overload protection at 91 watts. That is of course assuming that it's  
a 130VA inverter in the first place, based on the specs you gave it  
it's 130VA INPUT.


2. The inverter is barely 50% efficient. If you are lucky, you can run  
a 65 watt laptop off of it, but probably not. My GUESS is that it's 91  
Watts input and 30-40 watts out.


3. The R4a uses 60 Watts (or so) with the volume set at a reasonable  
level. That's how things were rated in those days. It may draw a  
little more with a loud station, and often draws less BUT it's a tube  
radio. Tubes draw lots of current when cold and as they warm up draw a  
lot less. So if for a short time the tubes draw 100 watts, or 200  
watts, or even 300 watts, no fuse will protect your inverter, it will  
be toast.


4. Inverters are just switching power supplies. They put out lots of  
noise and so on. The really cheap ones put out square waves instead of  
smooth sine waves, and you won't be able to hear anything over the  
noise.


Geoff.


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Geoffrey S. Mendelson,  N3OWJ/4X1GM
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Re: [Drakelist] R4A on an inverter

2011-07-20 Thread john

Try it and see!

If it doesn't work, get the next largest size they're all pretty cheap 
right now.


The power supply for my laptop is 90W and I've got a small-ish road 
warrior laptop!


John K5MO


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[Drakelist] R4A from car inverter

2011-07-20 Thread Neil M Califano
Continuation from last night:

If I attempt to run an R4A from a pure sine wave 130 watt inverter, can I ruin 
the inverter or just blow a fuse? If it's just a fuse, I'll give it a try.

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[Drakelist] R4A on an inverter

2011-07-19 Thread Neil M Califano
The power consumption of the R4a is 60 watts and I'd like to run the radio off 
my 12 volt car cigarette lighter using a 130 watt PSW inverter. I think the 
fuse is 10 amps. So 12.5 volts x 10 amps=125 watts. But I heard of fuses 
blowing running only laptops. It looks good on paper, but practically will this 
work?

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