Re: [Drakelist] Receiver protection lamp

2011-10-16 Thread Bob W7AVK
List - My memory misfired.  The TR-7 Receiver Protector was the RP-700 
not the RP-7.   http://www.dproducts.be/drake_Museum/nouvelle6.htm 
Over the years of Drake ham production.  Some kind of Receiver 
Protection was model dependent.


73  Bob  W7AVK







On 10/16/2011 9:25 AM, Kihwal Lee wrote:

Just to clarify, early TR-3's don't have the lamp.


Kihwal, K9SUL



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Re: [Drakelist] Receiver protection lamp

2011-10-16 Thread Kihwal Lee
Just to clarify, early TR-3's don't have the lamp.


Kihwal, K9SUL


- Original Message 
From: Garey Barrell 
To: Bob W7AVK 
Cc: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Sun, October 16, 2011 11:08:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Receiver protection lamp

Bob -

I've never seen one of those.  I thought they had the gas discharge/ gas 
plasma transient suppressor (90L) used in the later TR-7s.??

It was to protect the SS front end of the TR-7 / R-7 against static 
discharge and/or nearby lightning strikes.  The tube fires at 90V.


73, Garey - K4OAH
St Charles, IL

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs


Bob W7AVK wrote:
> List - The same lamp was used by Drake in an option for the TR-7 and
> R7s. Called RP-7. Was sold as a "receiver protector" in a small box that
> was inserted in the coax before the receiver input.
>
> If someone needs one of the lamps I have a couple.
>
> Also have a small number of the hard to find PIN diodes used in the TR-7
> series.
>
> 73 Bob W7AVK
>

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Re: [Drakelist] Receiver protection lamp

2011-10-16 Thread Garey Barrell

Bob -

I've never seen one of those.  I thought they had the gas discharge/ gas 
plasma transient suppressor (90L) used in the later TR-7s.??


It was to protect the SS front end of the TR-7 / R-7 against static 
discharge and/or nearby lightning strikes.  The tube fires at 90V.



73, Garey - K4OAH
St Charles, IL

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs


Bob W7AVK wrote:

List - The same lamp was used by Drake in an option for the TR-7 and
R7s. Called RP-7. Was sold as a "receiver protector" in a small box that
was inserted in the coax before the receiver input.

If someone needs one of the lamps I have a couple.

Also have a small number of the hard to find PIN diodes used in the TR-7
series.

73 Bob W7AVK



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Re: [Drakelist] Receiver protection lamp

2011-10-16 Thread Bob W7AVK
List - The same lamp was used by Drake in an option for the TR-7 and 
R7s.  Called RP-7.   Was sold as a "receiver protector" in a small box 
that was inserted in the coax before the receiver input.


If someone needs one of the lamps I have a couple.

Also have a small number of the hard to find PIN diodes used in the TR-7 
series.


73  Bob  W7AVK




On 10/16/2011 8:28 AM, Garey Barrell wrote:
As others have said, it's a protective 'fuse' for the receiver in the 
TR-3/4 series transceivers.


It's a worthwhile addition because again, the TR-3/4 series is an 
EXCELLENT 'SSB Transceiver for _Mobile_ operation'.  It's marginal for 
other uses, but for it's design goal, terrific!


Mobile use is WHY the bulb is necessary.  You won't have an 18-wheeler 
carrying a 2 kW CB transmitter pull up next to your home shack, 
but  Even a 200 W transmitter with it's vertical antenna only a 
few feet away from yours can fry an input transformer..  I have seen 
the bulb in a TR-4 show a good glow with another nearby 200 W 
transmitter on a different antenna and band.


The #12 bulb is identical to the #47 bulb electrically, just with 
shorter leads.  They are readily available from the on-line bulb 
dealers, and shouldn't be replaced with a piece of wire, especially if 
operated mobile.


Obviously an open bulb or even corrosion on the leads can severely 
impact receiver sensitivity, second only to that %%#%$ 'TCVR/RCVR' 
slide switch on the left side!


73, Garey - K4OAH
St Charles, IL

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Re: [Drakelist] Receiver protection lamp

2011-10-16 Thread Garey Barrell
As others have said, it's a protective 'fuse' for the receiver in the 
TR-3/4 series transceivers.


It's a worthwhile addition because again, the TR-3/4 series is an 
EXCELLENT 'SSB Transceiver for _Mobile_ operation'.  It's marginal for 
other uses, but for it's design goal, terrific!


Mobile use is WHY the bulb is necessary.  You won't have an 18-wheeler 
carrying a 2 kW CB transmitter pull up next to your home shack, but 
 Even a 200 W transmitter with it's vertical antenna only a few feet 
away from yours can fry an input transformer..  I have seen the bulb in 
a TR-4 show a good glow with another nearby 200 W transmitter on a 
different antenna and band.


The #12 bulb is identical to the #47 bulb electrically, just with 
shorter leads.  They are readily available from the on-line bulb 
dealers, and shouldn't be replaced with a piece of wire, especially if 
operated mobile.


Obviously an open bulb or even corrosion on the leads can severely 
impact receiver sensitivity, second only to that %%#%$ 'TCVR/RCVR' slide 
switch on the left side!


73, Garey - K4OAH
St Charles, IL

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs




Neil M Califano wrote:

What is this???:



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Re: [Drakelist] Receiver protection lamp

2011-10-15 Thread Richard Knoppow


- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Ladden" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Receiver protection lamp


The TR-3/4 had a fuse lamp between the receiver and 
antenna to protect the receiver. Since these were mobile 
rigs the large whip antennas could hit light fixtures in 
garages (my theory).


73,
Bob WW3QB

   More likely to protect the input circuit if someone else 
fires up a tranmitter nearby, it would also protect the 
input from static accumulation from friction on the antenna 
and from driving through a lightening storm. Serves a 
similar purpose when used in a fixed location. The lamp is a 
twin-post lamp with similar characteristics to a No.47 but 
the base arrangement has less reactance at radio 
frequencies.
   I managed to pop one while trouble shooting a TR-4 and 
had trouble getting replacements locally. Keeping a spare 
available is a good idea even though they are likely to last 
forever. If the TR-4 receiver seems dead and its nothing 
else the lamp is worth looking at. If its open or the 
contacts are dirty the effect is of no antenna being 
connected.



--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
dickb...@ix.netcom.com 



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Re: [Drakelist] Receiver protection lamp

2011-10-15 Thread Robert Ladden
The TR-3/4 had a fuse lamp between the receiver and antenna to protect the 
receiver. Since these were mobile rigs the large whip antennas could hit light 
fixtures in garages (my theory).

73,
Bob WW3QB



From: Neil M Califano 
To: Drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 8:54 PM
Subject: [Drakelist] Receiver protection lamp

What is this???:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RL-Drake-Receiver-Protection-Lamp-4-Line-Receivers-/360399257957?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e9784165

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[Drakelist] Receiver protection lamp

2011-10-15 Thread Neil M Califano
What is this???:

 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RL-Drake-Receiver-Protection-Lamp-4-Line-Receivers-/360399257957?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e9784165

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