Re: [drakelist] Shure 444 element size?
Bill Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- If memory serves me, the 444 was grey in color and was a high impedance microphone. The 444D is black in color and is dual impedance, both high and low. 73 de Bill -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
RE: [drakelist] Shure 444 element size?
Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:05:14 -0500, Chuck Wyatt wrote: Well after reading Ken's message last night, I was inspired to check it further. The element DOES give output, and may just have been my prejudice based on the appearance of the element (some rust). Well, what are you waiting for? Hook it to a radio! 73 -Jim -- TR7/RV7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C, L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A, GT550A/RV550A - all vintage, all the time! -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Shure 444 element size?
Ron Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Well I just opened my 444D and the element is about 1 7/8 inch diameter. Keep in mind that the cavity that an element sits in also had an effect on tonal quality. 73, WD8SBB On Sat, 9 Dec 2006, Chuck Wyatt wrote: http://www.rigpix.com/accessories/electrovoice_630.htm sturdy. Has anyone explored the insides of the 444 enough to have a sense of the size of the element? I was thinking I could perhaps use it in the nicer-looking 630 body. The 630 element is maybe just under 2 inches diameter. -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
RE: [drakelist] Shure 444 element size?
Chuck Wyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hi Jim, Well after reading Ken's message last night, I was inspired to check it further. The element DOES give output, and may just have been my prejudice based on the appearance of the element (some rust). Also appeared to have a lower output based on my multimeter, compared to my D104, but it does put out. I suppose if they stocked those original 630 elements, that would be something, though! Can't believe those would be hanging around, but who knows. Love the looks of this mic. Looks like some art-deco inspiration. -Chuck -Original Message- From: Jim Shorney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:45 AM To: Chuck Wyatt; drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Subject: RE: [drakelist] Shure 444 element size? On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 17:51:35 -0500, Chuck Wyatt wrote: Chuck Wyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Thanks, Jim! Do you know if there is a significant difference between the 444 and 444D ? I'm seeing more 444D's available it seems. The 444D is dual impedance, with a switch on the bottom to select high or low impedance. There is no transformer, the element itself has high and low taps. Otherwise the element appears the same, maybe slightly less deep than the 444. Point of trivia, the ElectroVoice repair service is now located in the former HyGain Electronics plant in Lincoln (now Bosch/Telex) where I work, and they do still service some of the old microphones. I don't know about the 630 (I suppose I could walk over to customer service and ask tomorrow...). I'm in a different department and don't have anything to do with the EV mics myself. 73 -Jim -- Jim Shorney --.--Put complaints in this box jshorney (at) inebraska.com Ham Radio NU0C Lincoln, NE, USA EN10ps http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney/ -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
RE: [drakelist] Shure 444 element size?
Chuck Wyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Ken Sands suggested double-checking that EV element, which I did and it appears good. Seems to drive the TR-3 just great! Thanks to all for the measurements on the 444/444D and clarification -- I may need to go that route. Now that I've rewired the EV-630 switch to work with PTT, I'm getting a hum through the speaker when I touch the mic body only when the mic is not keyed. Problem seems to be that the on/off switch is SPST, one of the element leads is grounded. If I contact the TR-3 ground to either element lead it will key the rig. Any tips or tricks, before I go off and try and get lucky with a niche DPST for this setup? Thanks folks, Chuck W1CEW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Shorney Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 5:46 PM To: Chuck Wyatt; drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [drakelist] Shure 444 element size? Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 15:08:20 -0500, Chuck Wyatt wrote: Has anyone explored the insides of the 444 enough to have a sense of the size of the element? Looks like about 1-7/8 diameter by 7/8 deep. Give or take a little. -Jim -- Jim Shorney --.--Put complaints in this box jshorney (at) inebraska.com Ham Radio NU0C Lincoln, NE, USA EN10ps http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney/ -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Shure 444 element size?
Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 22:16:20 -0600, Bill Jackson wrote: If memory serves me, the 444 was grey in color and was a high impedance microphone. The 444D is black in color and is dual impedance, both high and low. Correct. The 444 is a great color match for the 4-line Drakes, and the 444D looks pretty sharp next to a TR7. Not to mention the fact that they sound great on SSB. 73 -Jim -- Jim Shorney --.--Put complaints in this box jshorney (at) inebraska.com Ham Radio NU0C Lincoln, NE, USA EN10ps http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney/ -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
RE: [drakelist] Shure 444 element size?
Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:19:38 -0500, Chuck Wyatt wrote: Now that I've rewired the EV-630 switch to work with PTT, I'm getting a hum through the speaker when I touch the mic body only when the mic is not keyed. Problem seems to be that the on/off switch is SPST, one of the element leads is grounded. If I contact the TR-3 ground to either element lead it will key the rig. Any tips or tricks, before I go off and try and get lucky with a niche DPST for this setup? Wire the mic element so it is on all the time, not running through the switch (will work with VOX this way). Use the switch only to switch the PTT to ground, there should be no connection to the mic element high. Mic ground, mic case/stand ground, and PTT ground should all be common. If this was a surplus PA mic there may not be enough wires in the cord and you will need a new cord - you should have, at minimum, a shielded wire for audio and an unshielded wire for PTT, possibly with another unshielded wire for PTT return that can be connected to common ground with the audio shield. Hope that makes at least a little sense 73 -Jim -- TR7/RV7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C, L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A, GT550A/RV550A - all vintage, all the time! -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
