Re: [PATCH] drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Print error message when DT parsing fails
On 2024/3/19 23:49, Neil Armstrong wrote: On 18/03/2024 20:23, Sui Jingfeng wrote: Hi, On 2024/3/19 02:04, Laurent Pinchart wrote: Improving core helpers is certainly a good idea, and if we do so, we can simplify drivers. What I'm concerned is that commit 00084f0c01bf creates a silent probe failure path, No, I can't agree here. It doesn't creates a silent probe failure path. It doesn't _in debug mode_, I agree with Laurent, having a verbose probe error should be kept. OK, I agree with you two then. I means that we could replace the pr_debug() with the pr_err() in the of_graph_get_remote_node() function, then all drivers will be benefit. Is this idea too hard to be acceptable? Neil
Re: [PATCH] drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Print error message when DT parsing fails
Hi,
On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 18:06:01 +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Commit 00084f0c01bf ("drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Switch to use
> of_graph_get_remote_node()") simplified the thc63lvd1024 driver by
> replacing hand-rolled code with a helper function. While doing so, it
> created an error code path at probe time without any error message,
> potentially causing probe issues that get annoying to debug. Fix it by
> adding an error message.
>
> [...]
Thanks, Applied to https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/misc/kernel.git
(drm-misc-next)
[1/1] drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Print error message when DT parsing fails
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/misc/kernel/-/commit/974652d7a90be7ae3b24779794a65bfb90980044
--
Neil
Re: [PATCH] drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Print error message when DT parsing fails
On 18/03/2024 20:23, Sui Jingfeng wrote:
Hi,
On 2024/3/19 02:04, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Improving core helpers is certainly a good idea, and if we do so, we can
simplify drivers. What I'm concerned is that commit 00084f0c01bf creates
a silent probe failure path,
No, I can't agree here. It doesn't creates a silent probe failure path.
It doesn't _in debug mode_, I agree with Laurent, having a verbose probe error
should be kept.
Neil
Simply because
1) It is NOT silent.
2) It should be exist at product level kernel.
which didn't exist before it.
Again, it shouldn't be exist.
Otherwise it hints us that there is ill-behavior-ed DT in the mainstream kernel
or a specific product(or development board). If I were you, I would like to fix
the boot failure first.
In the earlier stage of my attempt to contribute, I also would like to enable
debug output as much as possible. Just like you, the benefit is obvious: It
really
eliminate the pain on developing stage and when bugs happens.
But I was told many many times that mainstream kernel is not for debug, it is
for sound products. I bet you have seen some product level drivers print very
less.
I'm not understand why in the past, but I think I could understand something
now.
Probably because professional programmers really confident about what they have
wrote. As they have been tested and/or reviewed thousands or ten thousands
times.
Enable this debug output by default can only prove to the community that you are
not confident about something, either the community's reviewing power on DTS or
your debug techniques.
This is why
this patch references it in the Fixes: tag, making sure that this patch
will get backported to any stable kernel that includes commit
00084f0c01bf.
No, I keep insist on my judgement. A fixes tag is only meant for cases where
your
patch fixes a bug. The bug should really be happened. All of the discussion
ongoing
here are just things imaginary about the *debug* phase and development phase.
As far as I understand, this is business as usual. There's
nothing personal here, and no judgement on the quality of your code.
Please don't misunderstanding, I do cares the quality of my code.
If it is really introduce a bug, I will responsible and help to solve.
But this is not the case. Sorry.
Signed-off-by: Laurent Pinchart
---
drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c | 5 -
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
index 5f99f9724081..674efc489e3a 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
@@ -125,8 +125,11 @@ static int thc63_parse_dt(struct thc63_dev *thc63)
remote = of_graph_get_remote_node(thc63->dev->of_node,
THC63_RGB_OUT0, -1);
- if (!remote)
+ if (!remote) {
+ dev_err(thc63->dev, "No remote endpoint for port@%u\n",
+ THC63_RGB_OUT0);
return -ENODEV;
+ }
An side effect of this patch is that we will add one more extra error message
in the console.
As the of_graph_get_remote_node() function already print one for us if I add
'#define DEBUG 1'
on the top of this source file. What's worse, it does not really tell us what's
really the
error is.
It could be no valid endpoint or no valid remote node because of bad coding in
DT, or It is
also simply because the remove node(or device) is being disabled intentionally
by adding
'status = "disabled"' clause. Therefore, the error printing code added here is
very confusing
in practice. It cannot really help for locating the root cause of the problem.
After think about this more than twice, either help to improve the core
of_graph_get_remote_node()
function or just to drop this. This what I can tell as a ordinary reviewer.
Despite you and/or
other more advanced programmer & reviewer could override what I said though.
Re: [PATCH] drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Print error message when DT parsing fails
On 18/03/2024 17:06, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Commit 00084f0c01bf ("drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Switch to use
of_graph_get_remote_node()") simplified the thc63lvd1024 driver by
replacing hand-rolled code with a helper function. While doing so, it
created an error code path at probe time without any error message,
potentially causing probe issues that get annoying to debug. Fix it by
adding an error message.
Fixes: 00084f0c01bf ("drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Switch to use
of_graph_get_remote_node()")
Signed-off-by: Laurent Pinchart
---
drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c | 5 -
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
index 5f99f9724081..674efc489e3a 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
@@ -125,8 +125,11 @@ static int thc63_parse_dt(struct thc63_dev *thc63)
remote = of_graph_get_remote_node(thc63->dev->of_node,
THC63_RGB_OUT0, -1);
- if (!remote)
+ if (!remote) {
+ dev_err(thc63->dev, "No remote endpoint for port@%u\n",
+ THC63_RGB_OUT0);
return -ENODEV;
+ }
thc63->next = of_drm_find_bridge(remote);
of_node_put(remote);
base-commit: 00084f0c01bf3a2591d007010b196e048281c455
Reviewed-by: Neil Armstrong
Re: [PATCH] drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Print error message when DT parsing fails
On 2024/3/19 03:23, Sui Jingfeng wrote: 2) It should be exist at product level kernel. It should NOT be exist at product level kernel. -- Best regards, Sui
Re: [PATCH] drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Print error message when DT parsing fails
Hi,
On 2024/3/19 02:04, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Improving core helpers is certainly a good idea, and if we do so, we can
simplify drivers. What I'm concerned is that commit 00084f0c01bf creates
a silent probe failure path,
No, I can't agree here. It doesn't creates a silent probe failure path.
Simply because
1) It is NOT silent.
2) It should be exist at product level kernel.
which didn't exist before it.
Again, it shouldn't be exist.
Otherwise it hints us that there is ill-behavior-ed DT in the mainstream kernel
or a specific product(or development board). If I were you, I would like to fix
the boot failure first.
In the earlier stage of my attempt to contribute, I also would like to enable
debug output as much as possible. Just like you, the benefit is obvious: It
really
eliminate the pain on developing stage and when bugs happens.
But I was told many many times that mainstream kernel is not for debug, it is
for sound products. I bet you have seen some product level drivers print very
less.
I'm not understand why in the past, but I think I could understand something
now.
Probably because professional programmers really confident about what they have
wrote. As they have been tested and/or reviewed thousands or ten thousands
times.
Enable this debug output by default can only prove to the community that you are
not confident about something, either the community's reviewing power on DTS or
your debug techniques.
This is why
this patch references it in the Fixes: tag, making sure that this patch
will get backported to any stable kernel that includes commit
00084f0c01bf.
No, I keep insist on my judgement. A fixes tag is only meant for cases where
your
patch fixes a bug. The bug should really be happened. All of the discussion
ongoing
here are just things imaginary about the *debug* phase and development phase.
As far as I understand, this is business as usual. There's
nothing personal here, and no judgement on the quality of your code.
Please don't misunderstanding, I do cares the quality of my code.
If it is really introduce a bug, I will responsible and help to solve.
But this is not the case. Sorry.
Signed-off-by: Laurent Pinchart
---
drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c | 5 -
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
index 5f99f9724081..674efc489e3a 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
@@ -125,8 +125,11 @@ static int thc63_parse_dt(struct thc63_dev *thc63)
remote = of_graph_get_remote_node(thc63->dev->of_node,
THC63_RGB_OUT0, -1);
- if (!remote)
+ if (!remote) {
+ dev_err(thc63->dev, "No remote endpoint for port@%u\n",
+ THC63_RGB_OUT0);
return -ENODEV;
+ }
An side effect of this patch is that we will add one more extra error message
in the console.
As the of_graph_get_remote_node() function already print one for us if I add
'#define DEBUG 1'
on the top of this source file. What's worse, it does not really tell us what's
really the
error is.
It could be no valid endpoint or no valid remote node because of bad coding in
DT, or It is
also simply because the remove node(or device) is being disabled intentionally
by adding
'status = "disabled"' clause. Therefore, the error printing code added here is
very confusing
in practice. It cannot really help for locating the root cause of the problem.
After think about this more than twice, either help to improve the core
of_graph_get_remote_node()
function or just to drop this. This what I can tell as a ordinary reviewer.
Despite you and/or
other more advanced programmer & reviewer could override what I said though.
--
Best regards,
Sui
thc63->next = of_drm_find_bridge(remote);
of_node_put(remote);
base-commit: 00084f0c01bf3a2591d007010b196e048281c455
--
Best regards,
Sui
Re: [PATCH] drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Print error message when DT parsing fails
Hi,
On 2024/3/19 02:04, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Hi Sui,
On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 12:42:41AM +0800, Sui Jingfeng wrote:
On 2024/3/19 00:06, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Commit 00084f0c01bf ("drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Switch to use
of_graph_get_remote_node()") simplified the thc63lvd1024 driver by
replacing hand-rolled code with a helper function.
[...]
While doing so, it
created an error code path at probe time without any error message,
If this is a reason or a concern, then every drm bridges drivers will suffer
from
such a concern. Right?
Yes, bridge drivers (or any driver, really) should avoid failing probe
silently.
Yes, I agree with you that bridge drivers should avoid failing probe.
But the real problem that deserve to discuss is that is it really *silently* ?
The of_graph_get_remote_node() function do have debug prints on failure:
- pr_debug("no valid endpoint (%d, %d) for node %pOF\n", port, endpoint,
node);
- pr_debug("no valid remote node\n");
- pr_debug("not available for remote node\n");
So it is not really *silently*.
Re: [PATCH] drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Print error message when DT parsing fails
Hi Sui,
On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 12:42:41AM +0800, Sui Jingfeng wrote:
> On 2024/3/19 00:06, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > Commit 00084f0c01bf ("drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Switch to use
> > of_graph_get_remote_node()") simplified the thc63lvd1024 driver by
> > replacing hand-rolled code with a helper function.
>
> [...]
>
> > While doing so, it
> > created an error code path at probe time without any error message,
>
> If this is a reason or a concern, then every drm bridges drivers will suffer
> from
> such a concern. Right?
Yes, bridge drivers (or any driver, really) should avoid failing probe
silently.
> > potentially causing probe issues that get annoying to debug.
>
> Sorry, let's keep it fair enough, it creates nothing annoyed.
>
> If there is a probe issues, then, it is caused by ill-behavioral DT.
> *NOT* my patch. And should be found during review stage.
Even before the review stage, in the DT development stage. My point is
that creating a silent failure path in probe will make it more difficult
for DT developers to debug issues.
> If the of_graph_get_remote_node() function is not good enough,
> I suggest to improve the of_graph_get_remote_node() function,
> then all callers of it will benefits.
>
> Well, the strong word here just terrifying new programmers to call
> core function helpers. Please use more *soft* description in the
> commit message.
Could you please propose a wording that you would consider more soft ?
> > Fix it by
> > adding an error message.
> >
> > Fixes: 00084f0c01bf ("drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Switch to use
> > of_graph_get_remote_node()")
>
> Please drop the fixes tag at here, append the tag to a real bug-fix patch
> will make more sense imo.
> I suggest to improve the of_graph_get_remote_node() function, then all
> callers of it will benefits.
> NOT a single implement like this.
Improving core helpers is certainly a good idea, and if we do so, we can
simplify drivers. What I'm concerned is that commit 00084f0c01bf creates
a silent probe failure path, which didn't exist before it. This is why
this patch references it in the Fixes: tag, making sure that this patch
will get backported to any stable kernel that includes commit
00084f0c01bf. As far as I understand, this is business as usual. There's
nothing personal here, and no judgement on the quality of your code.
> > Signed-off-by: Laurent Pinchart
> > ---
> > drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c | 5 -
> > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
> > b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
> > index 5f99f9724081..674efc489e3a 100644
> > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
> > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
> > @@ -125,8 +125,11 @@ static int thc63_parse_dt(struct thc63_dev *thc63)
> >
> > remote = of_graph_get_remote_node(thc63->dev->of_node,
> > THC63_RGB_OUT0, -1);
> > - if (!remote)
> > + if (!remote) {
> > + dev_err(thc63->dev, "No remote endpoint for port@%u\n",
> > + THC63_RGB_OUT0);
> > return -ENODEV;
> > + }
> >
> > thc63->next = of_drm_find_bridge(remote);
> > of_node_put(remote);
> >
> > base-commit: 00084f0c01bf3a2591d007010b196e048281c455
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
Re: [PATCH] drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Print error message when DT parsing fails
Hi,
On 2024/3/19 00:06, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Commit 00084f0c01bf ("drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Switch to use
of_graph_get_remote_node()") simplified the thc63lvd1024 driver by
replacing hand-rolled code with a helper function.
[...]
While doing so, it
created an error code path at probe time without any error message,
If this is a reason or a concern, then every drm bridges drivers will suffer
from
such a concern. Right?
potentially causing probe issues that get annoying to debug.
Sorry, let's keep it fair enough, it creates nothing annoyed.
If there is a probe issues, then, it is caused by ill-behavioral DT.
*NOT* my patch. And should be found during review stage.
If the of_graph_get_remote_node() function is not good enough,
I suggest to improve the of_graph_get_remote_node() function,
then all callers of it will benefits.
Well, the strong word here just terrifying new programmers to call
core function helpers. Please use more *soft* description in the
commit message.
Fix it by
adding an error message.
Fixes: 00084f0c01bf ("drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Switch to use
of_graph_get_remote_node()")
Please drop the fixes tag at here, append the tag to a real bug-fix patch will
make more sense imo.
I suggest to improve the of_graph_get_remote_node() function, then all callers
of it will benefits.
NOT a single implement like this.
Signed-off-by: Laurent Pinchart
---
drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c | 5 -
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
index 5f99f9724081..674efc489e3a 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
@@ -125,8 +125,11 @@ static int thc63_parse_dt(struct thc63_dev *thc63)
remote = of_graph_get_remote_node(thc63->dev->of_node,
THC63_RGB_OUT0, -1);
- if (!remote)
+ if (!remote) {
+ dev_err(thc63->dev, "No remote endpoint for port@%u\n",
+ THC63_RGB_OUT0);
return -ENODEV;
+ }
thc63->next = of_drm_find_bridge(remote);
of_node_put(remote);
base-commit: 00084f0c01bf3a2591d007010b196e048281c455
--
Best regards,
Sui
[PATCH] drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Print error message when DT parsing fails
Commit 00084f0c01bf ("drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Switch to use
of_graph_get_remote_node()") simplified the thc63lvd1024 driver by
replacing hand-rolled code with a helper function. While doing so, it
created an error code path at probe time without any error message,
potentially causing probe issues that get annoying to debug. Fix it by
adding an error message.
Fixes: 00084f0c01bf ("drm: bridge: thc63lvd1024: Switch to use
of_graph_get_remote_node()")
Signed-off-by: Laurent Pinchart
---
drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c | 5 -
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
index 5f99f9724081..674efc489e3a 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/thc63lvd1024.c
@@ -125,8 +125,11 @@ static int thc63_parse_dt(struct thc63_dev *thc63)
remote = of_graph_get_remote_node(thc63->dev->of_node,
THC63_RGB_OUT0, -1);
- if (!remote)
+ if (!remote) {
+ dev_err(thc63->dev, "No remote endpoint for port@%u\n",
+ THC63_RGB_OUT0);
return -ENODEV;
+ }
thc63->next = of_drm_find_bridge(remote);
of_node_put(remote);
base-commit: 00084f0c01bf3a2591d007010b196e048281c455
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
