Re: [Dri-devel] Which DRI driver/card is usable for modern games?
I'm fully aware of the lack of documentation for recent graphics cards and the problems associated with that. Maybe the open source vs closed source problem is already a lost battle especially already. The situation seems to be much better for other HW such as audio cards, NICs, printers, etc needed by the kernel though, except maybe for WiFi cards. However, my original question remain: Which card is usable with DRI open source drivers for modern games? Also, is the S3TC issue resolved for the cards I mentioned before: Mach64, G400, Banshee and Radeon 9000 PRO. Since I'm replying to your mail Vladimir, how about the TV-out issue especially with the GATOS drivers and for XFree86/X.org in general. Are all these efforts in vain for GNU/Linux and other open source OSes. Only binary driver alternatives remains, or other OSes not to mention here.. On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 00:54, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: Is there any hope for open source drivers for high performance cards, taking into consideration the binary alternatives available for cards from ATI, Nvidia or Matrox (Parhelia), etc? One thing to keep in mind about this issue is that ATI and NVidia start working on their 3d drivers even before their cards are released yet. We are still asking for documentation for the next to latest generation of ATI cards (R300) (and, AFAIK, NVidia does not provide docs at all). So open source driver will always be late. However the question of how late depends a lot on how easy it is to program using current frameworks (i.e. Mesa, DRI, X11). best Vladimir Dergachev --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson Lucent use to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=osdnemail3 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] Which DRI driver/card is usable for modern games?
Svante Signell wrote: However, my original question remain: Which card is usable with DRI open source drivers for modern games? Also, is the S3TC issue resolved for the cards I mentioned before: Mach64, G400, Banshee and Radeon 9000 PRO. It's absolutely resolved for mach64, G400, and banshee: the hardware does NOT support it in any way, shape, or form. The Radeon 9000 Pro (a R200 like chip) supports it with some patches that are floating around. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson Lucent use to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=osdnemail3 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] Which DRI driver/card is usable for modern games?
However, my original question remain: Which card is usable with DRI open source drivers for modern games? Also, is the S3TC issue resolved for the cards I mentioned before: Mach64, G400, Banshee and Radeon 9000 PRO. Since I'm replying to your mail Vladimir, how about the TV-out issue especially with the GATOS drivers and for XFree86/X.org in general. Are Federico Ulivi has written a TV-out driver for Radeon cards. AFAIK it works with R100 and R200 cards that use Rage Theatre for TV-out. (This excludes some laptop chipsets, some VE cards and newer cards that use Rage Theatre 200). all these efforts in vain for GNU/Linux and other open source OSes. Only binary driver alternatives remains, or other OSes not to mention here.. Not necessarily.. Besides, keep in mind that sometimes there is no binary alternative (for most WiFi cards for example). Also, I think Intel has been playing nice - they released some code for their Centrino WiFi, and, looking in the DRI CVS, they have their graphics chipsets supported too. (Please correct me if I am wrong here). best Vladimir Dergachev On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 00:54, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: Is there any hope for open source drivers for high performance cards, taking into consideration the binary alternatives available for cards from ATI, Nvidia or Matrox (Parhelia), etc? One thing to keep in mind about this issue is that ATI and NVidia start working on their 3d drivers even before their cards are released yet. We are still asking for documentation for the next to latest generation of ATI cards (R300) (and, AFAIK, NVidia does not provide docs at all). So open source driver will always be late. However the question of how late depends a lot on how easy it is to program using current frameworks (i.e. Mesa, DRI, X11). best Vladimir Dergachev --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson Lucent use to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=osdnemail3 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] Which DRI driver/card is usable for modern games?
On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 09:04:28AM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: Also, is the S3TC issue resolved for the cards I mentioned before Browse dri-devel archive, there was patch for software S3TC support. -- Free Software - find interesting programs and change them NetHack - meet interesting creatures, kill them and eat their bodies Usenet - meet interesting people from all over the world and flame them Decopter - unrealistic helicopter simulator, get it from http://decopter.sf.net --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson Lucent use to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=osdnemail3 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] Which DRI driver/card is usable for modern games?
Is there any hope for open source drivers for high performance cards, taking into consideration the binary alternatives available for cards from ATI, Nvidia or Matrox (Parhelia), etc? One thing to keep in mind about this issue is that ATI and NVidia start working on their 3d drivers even before their cards are released yet. We are still asking for documentation for the next to latest generation of ATI cards (R300) (and, AFAIK, NVidia does not provide docs at all). So open source driver will always be late. However the question of how late depends a lot on how easy it is to program using current frameworks (i.e. Mesa, DRI, X11). best Vladimir Dergachev --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson Lucent use to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=osdnemail3 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson Lucent use to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=osdnemail3 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
