Slightly OT: We should move #dri and #dri-devel off of FreeNode
Today lilo (the FreeNode network owner) has decided to make one step away in a direction opposite of freedom, and banned all Tor users from the FreeNode network. Tor ( http://tor.eff.org ) is an open source anonymous gateway system. Many users who are not in the position to be able to use IRC otherwise (such as those who live in countries who do not believe in free speech) now cannot use Freenode any longer. Do we want to use an IRC network that no longer supports freedom? Our only option is to move to another network, such as irc.noderebellion.net or irc.oftc.net -- Patrick Diablo-D3 McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music. -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpUkgvLygvVO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Slightly OT: We should move #dri and #dri-devel off of FreeNode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick McFarland wrote: Today lilo (the FreeNode network owner) has decided to make one step away in a direction opposite of freedom, and banned all Tor users from the FreeNode network. Tor ( http://tor.eff.org ) is an open source anonymous gateway system. Many users who are not in the position to be able to use IRC otherwise (such as those who live in countries who do not believe in free speech) now cannot use Freenode any longer. Were you fortunate enough to be in one of the channels getting spammed by bots coming from Tor last night? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCHKwSXVaO67S1rtsRAvDmAKCh7alXZCejeMtAcJeNUXzP1qKxzQCdEEDc caCmZeA3Ud89s0hnaLWgvho= =13dF -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: Slightly OT: We should move #dri and #dri-devel off of FreeNode
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 11:15 am, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Patrick McFarland wrote: Today lilo (the FreeNode network owner) has decided to make one step away in a direction opposite of freedom, and banned all Tor users from the FreeNode network. Tor ( http://tor.eff.org ) is an open source anonymous gateway system. Many users who are not in the position to be able to use IRC otherwise (such as those who live in countries who do not believe in free speech) now cannot use Freenode any longer. Were you fortunate enough to be in one of the channels getting spammed by bots coming from Tor last night? Unfortunately, yes. And several more have been flooded in the past few hours. However, I don't think banning Tor (or as lilo puts it, Temporary ban) is the answer. It is not up to opers to ban Tor, because channels themselves can deal with Tor users on their own. Why hamper legit users when maybe one or two are actually causing problems? imo, Tor is very important for free software. -- Patrick Diablo-D3 McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music. -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpCKw3dhke6u.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Slightly OT: We should move #dri and #dri-devel off of FreeNode
Patrick McFarland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: banned all Tor users from the FreeNode network. Not good at all. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.esben-stien.name irc://irc.esben-stien.name/%23contact [sip|iax]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: Slightly OT: We should move #dri and #dri-devel off of FreeNode
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 06:46, Patrick McFarland wrote: Do we want to use an IRC network that no longer supports freedom? Our only option is to move to another network, such as irc.noderebellion.net or irc.oftc.net Congratulations, you win a free procmail rule! - ajax pgpE2NkdByiPU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Slightly OT: We should move #dri and #dri-devel off of FreeNode
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 12:37 pm, Patrick McFarland wrote: Unfortunately, yes. And several more have been flooded in the past few hours. However, I don't think banning Tor (or as lilo puts it, Temporary ban) is the answer. It is not up to opers to ban Tor, because channels themselves can deal with Tor users on their own. Why hamper legit users when maybe one or two are actually causing problems? Floodbots cause a lot of problems, though. It's not just in the interest of said channels getting flooded, you see. A floodbot on an IRC network creates a lot of waste traffic for all servers which receive the messages those bots send out. A temporary ban is probably the best solution in this case, and while it does hamper a few legitimate users, it also keeps the network afloat. Maybe Tor should look into the problem of malicious users. imo, Tor is very important for free software. In my opinion, it is very unimportant for free software. It's important for people who can't IRC for whatever reason. Thank you. -- Bryan D. Stine [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpQr44zlZK8Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
