Re: Tried it on my G5 Quad

2006-12-15 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 15:17 +0100, Michael Buesch wrote:
 I just tried to load the nouveau driver on my
 Apple G5 Quad machine.
 The kernel module loaded fine, but an attempt to start the
 x-server resulted in a frozen userinterface.

Actually, the logs look like the X server aborts, e.g. due to an
unresolved symbol. Try redirecting its stdout and stderr and looking at
that.


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Re: Tried it on my G5 Quad

2006-12-15 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 15 December 2006 16:53, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 15:17 +0100, Michael Buesch wrote:
  I just tried to load the nouveau driver on my
  Apple G5 Quad machine.
  The kernel module loaded fine, but an attempt to start the
  x-server resulted in a frozen userinterface.
 
 Actually, the logs look like the X server aborts, e.g. due to an
 unresolved symbol. Try redirecting its stdout and stderr and looking at
 that.

No, it didn't abort. It froze.
Why do you think it aborted? Truncated X-log?
The Xserver began to start, the console went black and the cursor
into the upper left corner and stopped blinking.
I had to access the machine through ssh to get the logs.
I think it might be a conflict between the loaded nvidia framebuffer
driver and nouveau. Did you try that? nvidia-fb and nouveau at the
same time? I will try without nvidia framebuffer driver.

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Re: Tried it on my G5 Quad

2006-12-15 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 18:31 +0100, Michael Buesch wrote:
 On Friday 15 December 2006 16:53, Michel Dänzer wrote:
  On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 15:17 +0100, Michael Buesch wrote:
   I just tried to load the nouveau driver on my
   Apple G5 Quad machine.
   The kernel module loaded fine, but an attempt to start the
   x-server resulted in a frozen userinterface.
  
  Actually, the logs look like the X server aborts, e.g. due to an
  unresolved symbol. Try redirecting its stdout and stderr and looking at
  that.
 
 No, it didn't abort. It froze.
 Why do you think it aborted? Truncated X-log?

That, and the kernel output mentioning lastclose.

Note that I don't mean a 'traditional' server abort. When e.g. the
dynamic loader hits an unresolved symbol, the X server process is
terminated immediately, so it doesn't get a chance to even try and
restore the console. So the symptoms of that can be very similar to a
'freeze'.

 The Xserver began to start, the console went black and the cursor
 into the upper left corner and stopped blinking.
 I had to access the machine through ssh to get the logs.

Did the X server process still exist at that time?


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Re: Tried it on my G5 Quad

2006-12-15 Thread Stephane Marchesin
Michael Buesch wrote:
 On Friday 15 December 2006 16:53, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 
 15:17 +0100, Michael Buesch wrote:  I just tried to load the nouveau driver 
 on my  Apple G5 Quad machine.  The kernel module loaded fine, but an 
 attempt to start the  x-server resulted in a frozen userinterface.  
 Actually, the logs look like the X server aborts, e.g. due to an unresolved 
 symbol. Try redirecting its stdout and stderr and looking at that.
 No, it didn't abort. It froze.Why do you think it aborted? Truncated 
 X-log?The Xserver began to start, the console went black and the cursorinto 
 the upper left corner and stopped blinking.I had to access the machine 
 through ssh to get the logs.I think it might be a conflict between the loaded 
 nvidia framebufferdriver and nouveau. Did you try that? nvidia-fb and nouveau 
 at thesame time? I will try without nvidia framebuffer driver.
 -- Greetings Michael.

nvidiafb and nouveau at the same time is an unsupported combination. Use 
offb or vesafb.

Stephane

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