Re: [Dspace-tech] pseudonym vs email-address
What could be done is: 1) user in DSPace is assigned to pseudonym as identifier (e.g. using netid) 2) user has his email address being "updated" from shibboleth (hence if he changes email, it will be reflected right away) I think this will satisfy your requirements (whereby there is a chance for user to change his email address), however this requires a guarantee that the user never changes his pseudonym (or netid). We have chosen early in the development of the patch to stick to 1 attribute (email) for both options 1 & 2. This simplifies matters cause rarely users change their email address (as long they have associations with their IdP). This also because we realized that some IdPs may not be able to supply unique netid (or whatever attribute, eg. targeted id) for option #1, hence using email address was considered sufficient. Having said so, it will be fairly simple to put netid or other attributes as pseudony identifier. Portability of netid or targetedID (which is not supported by the attribute definition itself) in repository world is yet to be addressed thoughIn AU, we have sharedtoken attribute, which is a unique identifier permanent for every individual in the federation, this can be used when portability is required, but otherwise we still encourage the usage of targetedid. Anyway, we should be able to post new patch containing option for netid next week (if you can wait till then), feel free to make use of it :) Hope that helps, Bruc -Original Message- From: François Parmentier [mailto:francois.parment...@gmail.com] Sent: Fri 12/12/2008 9:17 PM To: Jochen Lienhard Cc: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] pseudonym vs email-address Hi. I can only speak for v1.4.2, but I don't think it is much different for 1.5.x: as email is a column of of eperson table (which also gets a eperson_id column), why couldn't you change the email value, instead of using a pseudonym. This would be better if the user could change the email himself. -- François Parmentier / INIST-CNRS On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Jochen Lienhard < lienh...@ub.uni-freiburg.de> wrote: > Hallo, > > thanks to Bruc for the answer and to Kevin for the patch. > > I think my third question about the email-address is a basic question, > that not only touches shibboleth. > > If I understand right, the email-address is the login-name of the user > and the address, where to post the alerts. > Can this email-address change? perhaps if someone moves to another > provider. > If it could not be changes all alerts get lost and the user must create > the list of alerts again. > > The email-address is the basic value to give the rights to a person too, > isn't it? > Can you be sure, that this person will keep the email-address forever? > ... I think NO, because some provider > assign email-address after some time again to other persons. So this > person can get the password, > with the forgotten call and login and have the rights of the other > person before. > > I think pseudonym (targetedID) would be a nice feature for users, who > want to use alerts and nothing else, > but for the authors you need some more informations too. > > Coming to my final point and question: > Can the email-address be replaced by a pseudonym, or isn't this > imposible because of the DSpace > user database. > > Greetings > > Jochen > > > > 3rd question: should be easy to use targetedID as an identifier, will > upload the patch for it soon (including your suggested modification from > awhile back!). > > > > > > > > Third question: > > Can I use a targetedID instead of the mail-address for Shibboleth? > > But how can I add the email address direct in DSpace when using > shibboleth? > > > > > > -- > Dr. rer. nat. Jochen Lienhard > UB Universität Freiburg > Dezernat EDV > Tel: (0761) 203-3908 > Email: lienh...@ub.uni-freiburg.de > > > > -- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > ___ > DSpace-tech mailing list > DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech > -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] pseudonym vs email-address
Hi. I can only speak for v1.4.2, but I don't think it is much different for 1.5.x: as email is a column of of eperson table (which also gets a eperson_id column), why couldn't you change the email value, instead of using a pseudonym. This would be better if the user could change the email himself. -- François Parmentier / INIST-CNRS On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Jochen Lienhard < lienh...@ub.uni-freiburg.de> wrote: > Hallo, > > thanks to Bruc for the answer and to Kevin for the patch. > > I think my third question about the email-address is a basic question, > that not only touches shibboleth. > > If I understand right, the email-address is the login-name of the user > and the address, where to post the alerts. > Can this email-address change? perhaps if someone moves to another > provider. > If it could not be changes all alerts get lost and the user must create > the list of alerts again. > > The email-address is the basic value to give the rights to a person too, > isn't it? > Can you be sure, that this person will keep the email-address forever? > ... I think NO, because some provider > assign email-address after some time again to other persons. So this > person can get the password, > with the forgotten call and login and have the rights of the other > person before. > > I think pseudonym (targetedID) would be a nice feature for users, who > want to use alerts and nothing else, > but for the authors you need some more informations too. > > Coming to my final point and question: > Can the email-address be replaced by a pseudonym, or isn't this > imposible because of the DSpace > user database. > > Greetings > > Jochen > > > > 3rd question: should be easy to use targetedID as an identifier, will > upload the patch for it soon (including your suggested modification from > awhile back!). > > > > > > > > Third question: > > Can I use a targetedID instead of the mail-address for Shibboleth? > > But how can I add the email address direct in DSpace when using > shibboleth? > > > > > > -- > Dr. rer. nat. Jochen Lienhard > UB Universität Freiburg > Dezernat EDV > Tel: (0761) 203-3908 > Email: lienh...@ub.uni-freiburg.de > > > > -- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. > The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help > pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ > ___ > DSpace-tech mailing list > DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech > -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] pseudonym vs email-address
Hallo, thanks to Bruc for the answer and to Kevin for the patch. I think my third question about the email-address is a basic question, that not only touches shibboleth. If I understand right, the email-address is the login-name of the user and the address, where to post the alerts. Can this email-address change? perhaps if someone moves to another provider. If it could not be changes all alerts get lost and the user must create the list of alerts again. The email-address is the basic value to give the rights to a person too, isn't it? Can you be sure, that this person will keep the email-address forever? ... I think NO, because some provider assign email-address after some time again to other persons. So this person can get the password, with the forgotten call and login and have the rights of the other person before. I think pseudonym (targetedID) would be a nice feature for users, who want to use alerts and nothing else, but for the authors you need some more informations too. Coming to my final point and question: Can the email-address be replaced by a pseudonym, or isn't this imposible because of the DSpace user database. Greetings Jochen > > 3rd question: should be easy to use targetedID as an identifier, will upload > the patch for it soon (including your suggested modification from awhile > back!). > > > > Third question: > Can I use a targetedID instead of the mail-address for Shibboleth? > But how can I add the email address direct in DSpace when using shibboleth? > > -- Dr. rer. nat. Jochen Lienhard UB Universität Freiburg Dezernat EDV Tel: (0761) 203-3908 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
