Re: [dspam-users] Re: Dspam Project still active?
Okey time has again gone forward and it looks like all fork talk is quiet again. So will it be again same thing that 1 year is quiet and then someone pop up here and yell that this project need a fork! It has happen already at least 3 times. Every time there is much talking and much promises from current project owner, but nothing is really done. So will we again wait another year and hope that maybe this time? I have been looking other directions also and bogofilter is something what I might take a closer look. Richard wrote: First it's good to see the discussion heating up again... As I promised in the earlier discussions I'm willing to do the testing on the Mac platform as I currently support some users on OSX and have got my own mailserver running on it. i've included DSpam into my documentation/instruction set for setting up a mailserver under mac osx (see http://diymacserver.com/docs/). So answering question on using/compiling/configuring DSpam on OSX would be my way of helping. Let's see where it takes us... Richard On 29 Oct 2008, at 8:42 PM, Kyle Johnson wrote: I would like to help out. --Applied On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Imposit.com - Webmaster wrote: So well do it Im still readin about mailman/phpbb linking, maybe weve to wait for a link but ill setup a forum and a dev mailman maillinglist this week So what I need I now MODERATORS and listmanagers :-) shure I can and will do also some work. But help is welcome so send your applications now :-) Von: owner-dspam-us...@lists.nuclearelephant.com [mailto:owner-dspam-us...@lists.nuclearelephant.com] Im Auftrag von Mick Johnson Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Oktober 2008 20:17 An: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Betreff: RE: AW: AW: AW: [dspam-users] Re: Dspam Project still active? Hey all, Forum's a good idea – we'd be more than happy to link to it from the main page. Cheers mick From: owner-dspam-us...@lists.nuclearelephant.com [mailto:owner-dspam-us...@lists.nuclearelephant.com] On Behalf Of Imposit.com - Webmaster Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:15 AM To: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Subject: AW: AW: AW: AW: [dspam-users] Re: Dspam Project still active? As we can see no easy desicion :-) I will take a look about the linking thing I think a dual solution maybe suitable, but the maillingaccess must be much better documentated so new users (and you wont belive how many don't know how to subscribe) have it easier. But what we need then is the link from the homepage to the new list and forum. Without that it would be a nice feature for existing users but new get lost When we get this we can also make some posts to it newsplattforms like golem or so and tell them that the project is active and developers are needed. Maybe well get response and some more users :-) !DSPAM:1011,494dcc56150929008872405!
Re: [dspam-users] Re: Dspam Project still active?
On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 06:55 +0200, Jani Partanen wrote: > Okey time has again gone forward and it looks like all fork talk is > quiet again. > So will it be again same thing that 1 year is quiet and then someone pop > up here and yell that this project need a fork! > > It has happen already at least 3 times. Every time there is much talking > and much promises from current project owner, but nothing is really done. > > So will we again wait another year and hope that maybe this time? > > I have been looking other directions also and bogofilter is something > what I might take a closer look. I think after jon stopped being actively involved with the project it died. Jon used to keep it updated every week but I don't think Sensory Networks has actively done anything for the project since they took over. You can see this as the latest released version was March 19, 2007. on http://dspam.nuclearelephant.com/contracts.shtml they advertise paid support. but do Sensory Networks actually have the technical knowledge to be able to do this? I know Jon did.. I've been using dspam for a long time but my confidence is very low at the moment in be continuing to use dspam as if anything goes wrong there is NO support at all. Thanks !DSPAM:1011,494dd4f1150921838678502!
Re: [dspam-users] Re: Dspam Project still active?
Original-Nachricht > Datum: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 06:55:47 +0200 > Von: Jani Partanen > An: Richard > CC: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com > Betreff: Re: [dspam-users] Re: Dspam Project still active? > Okey time has again gone forward and it looks like all fork talk is > quiet again. > So will it be again same thing that 1 year is quiet and then someone pop > up here and yell that this project need a fork! > > It has happen already at least 3 times. Every time there is much talking > and much promises from current project owner, but nothing is really done. > > So will we again wait another year and hope that maybe this time? > > I have been looking other directions also and bogofilter is something > what I might take a closer look. > Assuming we would make a fork. What would be the things you would like to see in DSPAM after the fork? What functionality, etc... I personally would support a fork as long as DSPAM stays totally free. The current code does have some parts which are hidden and you only get if you buy certain hardware. And currently the DSPAM code is free but SN can at any time turn the code into closed source. They can't revert the already published code to be closed source but they can transform any future releases to be closed source. Anyway... I am much interested to hear what functions and enhancements you would like to see build into DSPAM after a fork. // Steve > > Richard wrote: > > First it's good to see the discussion heating up again... > > > > As I promised in the earlier discussions I'm willing to do the testing > > on the Mac platform as I currently support some users on OSX and have > > got my own mailserver running on it. i've included DSpam into my > > documentation/instruction set for setting up a mailserver under mac osx > > (see http://diymacserver.com/docs/). So answering question on > > using/compiling/configuring DSpam on OSX would be my way of helping. > > > > Let's see where it takes us... > > > > Richard > > > > > > On 29 Oct 2008, at 8:42 PM, Kyle Johnson wrote: > > > >> I would like to help out. > >> --Applied > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Imposit.com - Webmaster > >> wrote: > >> So well do it > >> > >> > >> Im still readin about mailman/phpbb linking, maybe weve to wait for a > >> link but ill setup a forum and a dev mailman maillinglist this week > >> > >> > >> So what I need I now MODERATORS and listmanagers :-) shure I can and > >> will do also some work. > >> > >> But help is welcome so send your applications now :-) > >> > >> > >> Von: owner-dspam-us...@lists.nuclearelephant.com > >> [mailto:owner-dspam-us...@lists.nuclearelephant.com] Im Auftrag von > >> Mick Johnson > >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Oktober 2008 20:17 > >> An: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com > >> Betreff: RE: AW: AW: AW: [dspam-users] Re: Dspam Project still active? > >> > >> > >> Hey all, > >> > >> > >> Forum's a good idea – we'd be more than happy to link to it from the > >> main page. > >> > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> mick > >> > >> > >> From: owner-dspam-us...@lists.nuclearelephant.com > >> [mailto:owner-dspam-us...@lists.nuclearelephant.com] On Behalf Of > >> Imposit.com - Webmaster > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:15 AM > >> To: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com > >> Subject: AW: AW: AW: AW: [dspam-users] Re: Dspam Project still active? > >> > >> > >> As we can see no easy desicion :-) > >> > >> > >> I will take a look about the linking thing > >> > >> I think a dual solution maybe suitable, but the maillingaccess must be > >> much better documentated so new users (and you wont belive how many > >> don't know how to subscribe) have it easier. > >> > >> > >> But what we need then is the link from the homepage to the new list > >> and forum. > >> > >> Without that it would be a nice feature for existing users but new get > >> lost > >> > >> > >> When we get this we can also make some posts to it newsplattforms like > >> golem or so and tell them that the project is active and developers > >> are needed. Maybe well get response and some more users :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger !DSPAM:1011,494ddd7c150921560310576!
Re: [dspam-users] Re: Dspam Project still active?
ציטוט Steve: Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 06:55:47 +0200 Von: Jani Partanen An: Richard CC: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Betreff: Re: [dspam-users] Re: Dspam Project still active? Okey time has again gone forward and it looks like all fork talk is quiet again. So will it be again same thing that 1 year is quiet and then someone pop up here and yell that this project need a fork! It has happen already at least 3 times. Every time there is much talking and much promises from current project owner, but nothing is really done. So will we again wait another year and hope that maybe this time? I have been looking other directions also and bogofilter is something what I might take a closer look. Assuming we would make a fork. What would be the things you would like to see in DSPAM after the fork? What functionality, etc... I personally would support a fork as long as DSPAM stays totally free. The current code does have some parts which are hidden and you only get if you buy certain hardware. And currently the DSPAM code is free but SN can at any time turn the code into closed source. They can't revert the already published code to be closed source but they can transform any future releases to be closed source. Anyway... I am much interested to hear what functions and enhancements you would like to see build into DSPAM after a fork. // Steve Personally, I believe that we first need to decide that we want to fork. IMHO, it's more important to get a platform with a level of community support for existing users and allow publishing of patches and bug fixes before we try to develop new features. SN has continually been successful in placating us. Every time we start this discussion they again come and make promises. I believe we gave them enough time "to put their money where their mouth is". We need to act, or else DSPAM will die a natural death. I say, "let's just do it". Let SN do whatever they want to do. They can leave us or join us, who cares? I believe that everyone on this list wants to get DSPAM back where it was two years ago. So let's just do it. Let's not wait for the developers to show up on this list and say their ready to help. Developers typically do not read the user's list, they have their own list. They'll come along when they're needed.if we can get the project up again as a community project. DSPAM is just too good to let SN, or anyone else kill it!! Richard wrote: First it's good to see the discussion heating up again... As I promised in the earlier discussions I'm willing to do the testing on the Mac platform as I currently support some users on OSX and have got my own mailserver running on it. i've included DSpam into my documentation/instruction set for setting up a mailserver under mac osx (see http://diymacserver.com/docs/). So answering question on using/compiling/configuring DSpam on OSX would be my way of helping. Let's see where it takes us... Richard On 29 Oct 2008, at 8:42 PM, Kyle Johnson wrote: I would like to help out. --Applied On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Imposit.com - Webmaster wrote: So well do it Im still readin about mailman/phpbb linking, maybe weve to wait for a link but ill setup a forum and a dev mailman maillinglist this week So what I need I now MODERATORS and listmanagers :-) shure I can and will do also some work. But help is welcome so send your applications now :-) Von: owner-dspam-us...@lists.nuclearelephant.com [mailto:owner-dspam-us...@lists.nuclearelephant.com] Im Auftrag von Mick Johnson Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Oktober 2008 20:17 An: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Betreff: RE: AW: AW: AW: [dspam-users] Re: Dspam Project still active? Hey all, Forum's a good idea – we'd be more than happy to link to it from the main page. Cheers mick From: owner-dspam-us...@lists.nuclearelephant.com [mailto:owner-dspam-us...@lists.nuclearelephant.com] On Behalf Of Imposit.com - Webmaster Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:15 AM To: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Subject: AW: AW: AW: AW: [dspam-users] Re: Dspam Project still active? As we can see no easy desicion :-) I will take a look about the linking thing I think a dual solution maybe suitable, but the maillingaccess must be much better documentated so new users (and you wont belive how many don't know how to subscribe) have it easier. But what we need then is the link from the homepage to the new list and forum. Without that it would be a nice feature for existing users but new get lost When we get this we can also make some posts to it newsplattforms like golem or so and tell them that the project is active and developers are needed. Maybe well get response and some more users :-) !DSPAM:1011,494dee9c150921814816992!
