[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Zone creation and around...

2010-01-05 Thread Raffaello
Thank you for you answer here and in the other D-Star forum, but I cannot 
believe that in these years where everything is interconnected, we are not able 
to use one gateway for more then one repeater. 
It's out of the base of the networking. The meaning of the gateway is that it 
should be like a gate between different networks: Internet and radio 
(intranet). 
If we can well reach the repeaters via radio (intranet), I cannot think that we 
have the need to use internet to make speak togheter the repeaters. 

After all we have two subnets that could be used (without thinking about the 
callsign routing). 
If the gateway should have the 10.0.0.x/8 network, on the other side we could 
have different 172.x.x.x repeaters in the intranet...isn't it ?

73 Raffaello IZ0QWM 





[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Zone creation and around...

2010-01-05 Thread john_ke5c
> What I can't believe is that as long as digital protocol have been around, 
> only one of the major Amateur Radio manufacturers support it. But again, we 
> have what we have. And we currently have Yaesu, Kenwood, and Alinco who are 
> just not willing to move into this century!

At least not with Icom leading the way proprietarily.  I'd like to see some 
sales numbers; I'd bet D-Star field radio sales represent a very small VHF/UHF 
market share compared to analog radios.  The hype may be running out of steam.  
Once we have a real emergency and D-Star performs no better than analog, that 
bubble may burst as well.  The D-Star market saturation may be close to 
stabilizing.  I don't see how we will ever have serious digital VHF/UHF until 
the manufacturers agree on some common standard.  Of course, better gateway and 
RF design and construction would not hurt either.

73 -- John



RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Zone creation and around...

2010-01-05 Thread Woodrick, Ed
There's not a really good reason why we even need the gateway computer. It 
wouldn't take much for the controller to do it all.

But that's not what we got. We have what we have. And what we have doesn't 
support the configuration.

The Icom "zone protocol" doesn't use IP.

What I can't believe is that as long as digital protocol have been around, only 
one of the major Amateur Radio manufacturers support it. But again, we have 
what we have. And we currently have Yaesu, Kenwood, and Alinco who are just not 
willing to move into this century!

At least Icom has.

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Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Zone creation and around...



Thank you for you answer here and in the other D-Star forum, but I cannot 
believe that in these years where everything is interconnected, we are not able 
to use one gateway for more then one repeater.
It's out of the base of the networking. The meaning of the gateway is that it 
should be like a gate between different networks: Internet and radio (intranet).
If we can well reach the repeaters via radio (intranet), I cannot think that we 
have the need to use internet to make speak togheter the repeaters.

After all we have two subnets that could be used (without thinking about the 
callsign routing).
If the gateway should have the 10.0.0.x/8 network, on the other side we could 
have different 172.x.x.x repeaters in the intranet...isn't it ?

73 Raffaello IZ0QWM