[DSTAR_DIGITAL] U.S. Only - Re: Tactical Call indication

2009-05-19 Thread k7ve
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, "Woodrick, Ed"  wrote:

> If you stick to the specifics of the protocol, then if you put something 
> besides your callsign in the field, then it wouldn't be in accordance with 
> the protocol. If it isn't in accordance with the protocol, then you will need 
> to follow the requirements of utilization of a non-published protocol. This 
> would require, among other things, that the station identification be done in 
> a standard protocol such as FM or CW. (For US rules)
> 
> So I guess if you want to get down to nitpicking, if the callsign is not in 
> the field then you need to make sure to switch your radio to FM and identify 
> appropriately.
> 
> Ed WA4YIH

Though I am of the school that the "MY" field should contain one's own 
callsign, I don't think your argument about having to ID using FM or CW is 
correct. The "standard protocol" includes AMBE encoded voice, which can be 
readily deciphered by anyone with a D-STAR radio and giving a "voice" ID over 
AMBE, I believe, would constitute a legal identification within the US rules.

-- John, K7VE



Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] U.S. Only - Re: Tactical Call indication

2009-05-19 Thread Tony Langdon
At 08:56 AM 5/20/2009, you wrote:

>Though I am of the school that the "MY" field should contain one's 
>own callsign, I don't think your argument about having to ID using 
>FM or CW is correct. The "standard protocol" includes AMBE encoded 
>voice, which can be readily deciphered by anyone with a D-STAR radio 
>and giving a "voice" ID over AMBE, I believe, would constitute a 
>legal identification within the US rules.

I agree, I would argue that voice over AMBE/D-STAR is using a 
"recognised code", which can be easily decoded by anyone with a 
D-STAR radio (or DV Dongle).

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com



Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] U.S. Only - Re: Tactical Call indication

2009-05-19 Thread Ray T. Mahorney
strictly speaking you shouldn't have to voice ID if the MyCall is left as is 
and the tactical 
call is in the MSG field. I could easily stand corrected.
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Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] U.S. Only - Re: Tactical Call indication


--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, "Woodrick, Ed"  wrote:

> If you stick to the specifics of the protocol, then if you put something 
> besides your callsign 
> in the field, then it wouldn't be in accordance with the protocol. If it 
> isn't in accordance 
> with the protocol, then you will need to follow the requirements of 
> utilization of a 
> non-published protocol. This would require, among other things, that the 
> station 
> identification be done in a standard protocol such as FM or CW. (For US rules)
>
> So I guess if you want to get down to nitpicking, if the callsign is not in 
> the field then you 
> need to make sure to switch your radio to FM and identify appropriately.
>
> Ed WA4YIH

Though I am of the school that the "MY" field should contain one's own 
callsign, I don't think 
your argument about having to ID using FM or CW is correct. The "standard 
protocol" includes 
AMBE encoded voice, which can be readily deciphered by anyone with a D-STAR 
radio and giving a 
"voice" ID over AMBE, I believe, would constitute a legal identification within 
the US rules.

-- John, K7VE





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RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] U.S. Only - Re: Tactical Call indication

2009-05-19 Thread Woodrick, Ed
The issue is not that it  is readily decodable, it is more along the line of 
having a publicly documented protocol.
One might wonder why the DSTAR protocol is published at the ARRL 
site(http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/techchar/ ). It is my 
understanding that the protocol is published to make sure that it fits FCC 
97.309(a)(4).



Ed WA4YIH

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Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] U.S. Only - Re: Tactical Call indication





--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com<mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com>, 
"Woodrick, Ed"  wrote:

> If you stick to the specifics of the protocol, then if you put something 
> besides your callsign in the field, then it wouldn't be in accordance with 
> the protocol. If it isn't in accordance with the protocol, then you will need 
> to follow the requirements of utilization of a non-published protocol. This 
> would require, among other things, that the station identification be done in 
> a standard protocol such as FM or CW. (For US rules)
>
> So I guess if you want to get down to nitpicking, if the callsign is not in 
> the field then you need to make sure to switch your radio to FM and identify 
> appropriately.
>
> Ed WA4YIH

Though I am of the school that the "MY" field should contain one's own 
callsign, I don't think your argument about having to ID using FM or CW is 
correct. The "standard protocol" includes AMBE encoded voice, which can be 
readily deciphered by anyone with a D-STAR radio and giving a "voice" ID over 
AMBE, I believe, would constitute a legal identification within the US rules.

-- John, K7VE



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