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Thanks for that, now I know. Not really my kind of music though. Just waiting for the bus home. Love Roger XXX -Original Message- From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: 17/05/2010 1:40:50 am To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DSTAR newcomer FINISH FWIW, Im still a bit skeptical, but I did lay down my money for an ID-880H several months ago. Were due to have a new repeater installed at a Georgia Public TV site nearby and Im anxiously awaiting an opportunity to have my skepticism proven wrong! I honestly hope that D-STAR works as advertised when the big one comes because itll be a huge tool for our toolbox. Of course, I hope analog repeaters remain on the scene for a long time to come too. 73, Mike WM4B _ From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Woodrick, Ed Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 8:33 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DSTAR newcomer FINISH What I can say is that I spent the entire weekend at Dayton talking to people about D-STAR. There were a lot of people who had interest in it. Im pretty sure that after stopping by and hearing about it, a number of folks went home with a D-STAR radio. There were a large number of folks who dropped by the booth. I only had 1 or 2 of the classic negative hams. This is great, because the number has dropped over the years. At this point, weve now got answers to most of the negative questions. There are number of manufacturers making equipment for D-STAR. We can make a non D-STAR radio a D-STAR radio, and we now have approved non-Icom repeaters that can be connected to the network. There will always be those who dont want to hear about D-STAR. Thats okay. Theres no rule in ham radio that everyone has to do everything. We have HFers that have never been above 50 MHz and folks who have never been below it. Weve got folks who work people that live on the earth, and weve got people who talk to satellites, even the moon. But there are still a lot of people who dont know what D-STAR is and we need to work at making sure that we at least get the word out. Ed WA4YI Email truncated to 2,000 characters :::0:a32a08cddee909b22b8046d9e3f64e5d:7d0
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Whatever that was supposed to mean… WM4B From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ovaltr...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 5:41 AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DSTAR newcomer FINISH Thanks for that, now I know. Not really my kind of music though. Just waiting for the bus home. Love Roger XXX -Original Message- From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: 17/05/2010 1:40:50 am To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DSTAR newcomer FINISH FWIW, I’m still a bit skeptical, but I did lay down my money for an ID-880H several months ago. We’re due to have a new repeater installed at a Georgia Public TV site nearby and I’m anxiously awaiting an opportunity to have my skepticism proven wrong! I honestly hope that D-STAR works as advertised when ‘the big one’ comes because it’ll be a huge tool for our toolbox. Of course, I hope analog repeaters remain on the scene for a long time to come too. 73, Mike WM4B _ From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Woodrick, Ed Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 8:33 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com mailto:dstar_digital%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DSTAR newcomer FINISH What I can say is that I spent the entire weekend at Dayton talking to people about D-STAR. There were a lot of people who had interest in it. I’m pretty sure that after stopping by and hearing about it, a number of folks went home with a D-STAR radio. There were a large number of folks who dropped by the booth. I only had 1 or 2 of the classic “negative” hams. This is great, because the number has dropped over the years. At this point, we’ve now got answers to most of the negative questions. There are number of manufacturers making equipment for D-STAR. We can make a non D-STAR radio a D-STAR radio, and we now have approved non-Icom repeaters that can be connected to the network. There will always be those who don’t want to hear about D-STAR. That’s okay. There’s no rule in ham radio that everyone has to do everything. We have HFers that have never been above 50 MHz and folks who have never been below it. We’ve got folks who work people that live on the earth, and we’ve got people who talk to satellites, even the moon. But there are still a lot of people who don’t know what D-STAR is and we need to work at making sure that we at least get the word out. Ed WA4YI Email truncated to 2,000 characters :::0:a32a08cddee909b22b8046d9e3f64e5d:7d0 image001.jpgimage002.jpg
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I would not worry about it at all and focus your efforts somewhere else. DSTAR isn't for everyone (just like SSB vs. CW, etc. or traditional HF rigs vs. Flex or SDR radio). The same thing happened with SSB and AM. Ham Radio is different things to different people. Just drive forward with your own ideas and those that are interested will help, etc. Mike VA3MW Mathaeus (Matthew Fonner) wrote: Greetings! Ron, One thing I've noticed with my local club is that the veteran HF/DX/Foxhunt people are not all that anxious to try D-Star (one even stated that he Hates D-STAR). Part of the issue is the thought that without internet connection, it is useless. Not so. It is a way to communicate via repeater (which we all do on analog as well), and is just a different mode.\ BUT, here is my main point in getting new old ham people into D-STAR: What I think we need to do is try to put together something to get rid of the If there is no internet, it is useless arguement. Matt / N3WNX
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Greetings! Ron, One thing I've noticed with my local club is that the veteran HF/DX/Foxhunt people are not all that anxious to try D-Star (one even stated that he Hates D-STAR). Part of the issue is the thought that without internet connection, it is useless. Not so. It is a way to communicate via repeater (which we all do on analog as well), and is just a different mode. Our club has been re-vamping our radio room, and since we are in Hamilton, Ohio (same city as R L Electronics), we are adding D-Star radios to the different station seats as well. Now I've been reading about other things, and I am thinking that I now need to look at hot-spots and such.more fun to try new things! BUT, here is my main point in getting new old ham people into D-STAR: What I think we need to do is try to put together something to get rid of the If there is no internet, it is useless arguement. Matt / N3WNX On 5/6/2010 9:27 AM, rOn wrote: I want to thank all in the DSTAR community for your responses. I now have a much better idea about the scope of DSTAR. I also wanted to thank you all for NO attacks which tells me that DSTAR people are the best. However since I had to ask; I think the DSTAR community should put together this kind of information and start advertising it to the non-DSTAR community or as an optimist would say the not-yet DSTAR people. If I am wrong and there is material to read about using this new communications please send me websites. Again thank you for your responses. rOn
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At 02:36 PM 5/15/2010, Mathaeus (Matthew Fonner) wrote: BUT, here is my main point in getting new old ham people into D-STAR: What I think we need to do is try to put together something to get rid of the If there is no internet, it is useless arguement. No question, a Gateway (Internet connection) makes a D-STAR repeater more fun, and I'd say more useful. Most D-STAR repeaters don't yet have a large enough user base to keep a stand alone machine reasonably busy. But D-STAR certainly is useful, usable and fun without an Internet connection, and even without a repeater - it works fine simplex. In fact, simplex is preferred for using the DV data mode and using D-RATS. I wouldn't put a lot of effort in convincing the curmudgeons. Just keep showing people what you can do and let them form their own opinions. 73, Gary KN4AQ ARVN: Amateur Radio//Video News Gary Pearce KN4AQ 508 Spencer Crest Ct. Cary, NC 27513 mailto:kn...@arvidionews.comkn...@arvideonews.com 919-380-9944 www.ARVideoNews.com
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At 12:23 PM 5/16/2010, you wrote: But D-STAR certainly is useful, usable and fun without an Internet connection, and even without a repeater - it works fine simplex. In fact, simplex is preferred for using the DV data mode and using D-RATS. I'm glad that I came up on D-STAR before the first repeater was installed here, because I was able to experience D-STAR simplex. Sure, in some ways, it was much like FM simplex, but with greater noise free range. Some of the paths I worked on D-STAR simplex were marginal at best on FM. Of course, with 2 gateways and a hotspot(mine!) within range, there's more fun to be had these days, but I know from experience that D-STAR simplex is both fun and useful. 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL http://vkradio.com
