Re: [dwm] Java patch

2008-04-28 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Tuncer Ayaz dixit (2008-04-28, 10:57):

> >  No I'm not noticing any. I'm using hg 1122, though.
> 
> Cool.
> What I'm missing right now in hg tip is Bar=Off but maybe it's
> achievable via the new geom settings.

Yeah,1122 is the last OldWorld dwm (by mac analogy), and I'm sticking
with it for now. Can't see any compelling reason to switch to a newer
release for now. No killer features (not for me at least), but a killer
amount of relearning, especially with the DEFGEOM stuff.

best,

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Re: [dwm] Java patch

2008-04-28 Thread Tuncer Ayaz
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Antoni Grzymala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tuncer Ayaz dixit (2008-04-28, 10:57):
>
>
>  > >  No I'm not noticing any. I'm using hg 1122, though.
>  >
>  > Cool.
>  > What I'm missing right now in hg tip is Bar=Off but maybe it's
>  > achievable via the new geom settings.
>
>  Yeah,1122 is the last OldWorld dwm (by mac analogy), and I'm sticking
>  with it for now. Can't see any compelling reason to switch to a newer
>  release for now. No killer features (not for me at least), but a killer
>  amount of relearning, especially with the DEFGEOM stuff.

to be honest I have to admit that after learning a lot of Erlang/OTP,
some Scala and Haskell I like FP so much that I tried out Xmonad
but only failed at some key bindings and Mod1 being swallowed by Xmonad
or something else goind wrong as I cannot use Mod1 in FF2.

therefore, having to learn dwm's DEFGEOM changes made me experiment with
Xmonad instead.

I just wanted to be honest. let's not start a flame war.



Re: [dwm] Java patch

2008-04-28 Thread Tuncer Ayaz
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tuncer Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Antoni Grzymala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Tuncer Ayaz dixit (2008-04-28, 10:57):
>  >
>  >
>  >  > >  No I'm not noticing any. I'm using hg 1122, though.
>  >  >
>  >  > Cool.
>  >  > What I'm missing right now in hg tip is Bar=Off but maybe it's
>  >  > achievable via the new geom settings.
>  >
>  >  Yeah,1122 is the last OldWorld dwm (by mac analogy), and I'm sticking
>  >  with it for now. Can't see any compelling reason to switch to a newer
>  >  release for now. No killer features (not for me at least), but a killer
>  >  amount of relearning, especially with the DEFGEOM stuff.
>
>  to be honest I have to admit that after learning a lot of Erlang/OTP,
>  some Scala and Haskell I like FP so much that I tried out Xmonad
>  but only failed at some key bindings and Mod1 being swallowed by Xmonad

comprehension fix:
1) failed to configure one or two keybindings I had in dwm's config.h
2) Mod1 does not seem to work in FF2

anyway, this is really off-topic here on dwm@, sorry.





Re: [dwm] Java patch

2008-04-28 Thread Tuncer Ayaz
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Antoni Grzymala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tuncer Ayaz dixit (2008-04-27, 21:49):
>
>
>  > Btw, what about the Tk issues I read here IIRC a long time ago?
>  > Are there any problem with Tk 8.5?
>
>  No I'm not noticing any. I'm using hg 1122, though.

Cool.
What I'm missing right now in hg tip is Bar=Off but maybe it's
achievable via the new geom settings.



Re: [dwm] Java patch

2008-04-28 Thread Tuncer Ayaz
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Tuncer Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Tuncer Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Antoni Grzymala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>  >  > Tuncer Ayaz dixit (2008-04-28, 10:57):
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  > >  No I'm not noticing any. I'm using hg 1122, though.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > Cool.
>  >  >  > What I'm missing right now in hg tip is Bar=Off but maybe it's
>  >  >  > achievable via the new geom settings.
>  >  >
>  >  >  Yeah,1122 is the last OldWorld dwm (by mac analogy), and I'm sticking
>  >  >  with it for now. Can't see any compelling reason to switch to a newer
>  >  >  release for now. No killer features (not for me at least), but a killer
>  >  >  amount of relearning, especially with the DEFGEOM stuff.
>  >
>  >  to be honest I have to admit that after learning a lot of Erlang/OTP,
>  >  some Scala and Haskell I like FP so much that I tried out Xmonad
>  >  but only failed at some key bindings and Mod1 being swallowed by Xmonad
>
>  comprehension fix:
>  1) failed to configure one or two keybindings I had in dwm's config.h
>  2) Mod1 does not seem to work in FF2
>
>  anyway, this is really off-topic here on dwm@, sorry.

fixed Xmonad problems partially, just in case anyone here cares. yeah, sure
on the dwm mailing list :)

anyway, I took a look at DEFGEOMS and am not sure whether I have to fiddle
with bh or something else to emulate BarOff. what's the correct way?



Re: [dwm] Java patch

2008-04-28 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 04:32:47PM +0200, Tuncer Ayaz wrote:
> anyway, I took a look at DEFGEOMS and am not sure whether I
> have to fiddle with bh or something else to emulate BarOff.
> what's the correct way?

DEFGEOM(nobar, 0, -bh, sw, 0, 0, sw, sh, wx, wy, mfact*ww, wh,
mx+mw, wy, ww-mw, wh, wx, wy, ww, wh)

Kind regards,
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Re: [dwm] Java patch

2008-04-28 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Anselm R. Garbe dixit (2008-04-28, 20:06):

> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 04:32:47PM +0200, Tuncer Ayaz wrote:
> > anyway, I took a look at DEFGEOMS and am not sure whether I
> > have to fiddle with bh or something else to emulate BarOff.
> > what's the correct way?
> 
> DEFGEOM(nobar, 0, -bh, sw, 0, 0, sw, sh, wx, wy, mfact*ww, wh,
>   mx+mw, wy, ww-mw, wh, wx, wy, ww, wh)

LOL.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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Re: [dwm] bloq may used to ignore keybindings

2008-04-28 Thread Kalle Svensson

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 04:30:24PM +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Asbj=F8rn_Clemmensen_ 
wrote:
> > Maybe the gnome-settings-daemon (which is also exexuted in my .xinitrc) 
> > owerwrites this?
> 
> It does seem pretty likely that Gnome messes with it.

Yes. I can confirm that this was the case, I don't know why I did'nt
try this in the first place.

Now I just have to find out how to make the gnome-settings-daemon to
load my .xmodmap. I remember a dialog asking about this the first
login when I first created ~/.xmodmap but I turned it down.

> Sincerely,
> 
> - Asbjørn

Regards,
KSV



Re: [dwm] Java patch

2008-04-28 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 08:21:36PM +0200, Antoni Grzymala wrote:
> Anselm R. Garbe dixit (2008-04-28, 20:06):
> 
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 04:32:47PM +0200, Tuncer Ayaz wrote:
> > > anyway, I took a look at DEFGEOMS and am not sure whether I
> > > have to fiddle with bh or something else to emulate BarOff.
> > > what's the correct way?
> > 
> > DEFGEOM(nobar, 0, -bh, sw, 0, 0, sw, sh, wx, wy, mfact*ww, wh,
> > mx+mw, wy, ww-mw, wh, wx, wy, ww, wh)
> 
> LOL.
> 
> Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Well if DEFGEOM would only be used to hide the bar, I could
agree that it's ridiculous.

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Re: [dwm] Java patch

2008-04-28 Thread Tuncer Ayaz
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Anselm R. Garbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 08:21:36PM +0200, Antoni Grzymala wrote:
>  > Anselm R. Garbe dixit (2008-04-28, 20:06):
>  >
>  > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 04:32:47PM +0200, Tuncer Ayaz wrote:
>  > > > anyway, I took a look at DEFGEOMS and am not sure whether I
>  > > > have to fiddle with bh or something else to emulate BarOff.
>  > > > what's the correct way?
>  > >
>  > > DEFGEOM(nobar, 0, -bh, sw, 0, 0, sw, sh, wx, wy, mfact*ww, wh,
>  > > mx+mw, wy, ww-mw, wh, wx, wy, ww, wh)
>  >
>  > LOL.
>  >
>  > Sorry, I couldn't resist.
>
>  Well if DEFGEOM would only be used to hide the bar, I could
>  agree that it's ridiculous.

I think Antoni laughed about the two-character variable name
and me applying the verb 'fiddle' to it.

Actually I had to take a look at my mail for a second
to find the funny part :)



Re: [dwm] Java patch

2008-04-28 Thread Tuncer Ayaz
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Antoni Grzymala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anselm R. Garbe dixit (2008-04-28, 20:06):
>
>
>  > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 04:32:47PM +0200, Tuncer Ayaz wrote:
>  > > anyway, I took a look at DEFGEOMS and am not sure whether I
>  > > have to fiddle with bh or something else to emulate BarOff.
>  > > what's the correct way?
>  >
>  > DEFGEOM(nobar, 0, -bh, sw, 0, 0, sw, sh, wx, wy, mfact*ww, wh,
>  >   mx+mw, wy, ww-mw, wh, wx, wy, ww, wh)
>
>  LOL.
>
>  Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Calling the GEOM nobar instead of simple is
completely optional as far as I understand it.

Just nod if that's correct.



Re: [dwm] Java patch

2008-04-28 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 09:33:59PM +0200, Tuncer Ayaz wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Antoni Grzymala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anselm R. Garbe dixit (2008-04-28, 20:06):
> >
> >
> >  > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 04:32:47PM +0200, Tuncer Ayaz wrote:
> >  > > anyway, I took a look at DEFGEOMS and am not sure whether I
> >  > > have to fiddle with bh or something else to emulate BarOff.
> >  > > what's the correct way?
> >  >
> >  > DEFGEOM(nobar, 0, -bh, sw, 0, 0, sw, sh, wx, wy, mfact*ww, wh,
> >  >   mx+mw, wy, ww-mw, wh, wx, wy, ww, wh)
> >
> >  LOL.
> >
> >  Sorry, I couldn't resist.
> 
> Calling the GEOM nobar instead of simple is
> completely optional as far as I understand it.

You can call a geom as you like, but bare in mind that the name
will be a C function, hence it should not collide with any
existing function name (well, you will notice at build time in
this case).

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