RE: [DX-CHAT] "Country" definition ...

2008-04-01 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
Under the current rules, collections of rocks will no longer meet the
minimum geographic requirements to become a DXCC entity.

And certain entities that got on the list under "Special Administrative
Area" type rules, like Mt. Athos, will also no longer get on the list.

Let's keep that in perspective.  Every time the subject comes up, some of
these old chestnuts come up with it... but without the caveat that while
they happened once, under criteria no longer in effect; they won't happen
under the current DXCC 2000 criteria.

To remove this potentially questionable-under-current-criteria entities
opens up a whole 'nother can of worms.  Let's just accept that many entities
got "Grandfathered" in under criteria that would not pass muster today, and
try to ensure that any new entities meet the current criteria as it stands.

73

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Wylie
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] "Country" definition ...


Whilst not wanting get embroiled in a is it or isn't it situation - I'd
venture to suggest it does need a look at.
In NO way, shape or form is Scarborough Reef an entity.   It is a rock,
or to be more specific a collection of rocks.

There are many others out there too that need some closer scrutiny.

Mount Athos - what happens when Monk Appollo has gone?   Is it erased or
do we hope (forever) another Monk takes up the hobby?   Why is a closed
entity still on the list???

We could go on and on.



Tom
GM4FDM



David Rollitt wrote:
> Hey Joe,
>
> Nope, don't like it, I've been chasing DXCC since 1969, almost 40 years
and
> I vote with ARRL and the way they do things.
> I know strictly I don't get to vote, being a G but they make it
interesting.
> I love the DXCC and thanks to the  ARRL for giving me something
> to chase.
> Regards.
> David G3XYP (worked em all one mode or another - but not em all on all
> modes!)
>
> You can please some of the dx-ers all of the time, and all of the dx-ers
> some of the time, but you cannot please  all of the dx-ers all of the
time.
> Abe Lincoln said that, or was it Bob Dylan, I'm getting too old!
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 2:37 PM
> Subject: *** SPAM *** [DX-CHAT] "Country" definition ...
>
>
>
>> Does anyone else think it is time to update the DXCC criteria to
>> specify a combination of the US Department of State "Independent
>> States in the World" list http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm
>> plus the list of "Dependencies and Areas of Special Sovereignty"
>> http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm?
>>
>> The two lists plus the minimum separation standards are a rather
>> clear and objective criteria for "political entities."
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>>
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Vedr. [DX-CHAT] "Country" definition ...

2008-04-01 Thread ragnar otterstad
No wonder why IOTA has become so popular !

73  Rag  LA5HE
--- David Rollitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev:

> Hey Joe,
> 
> Nope, don't like it, I've been chasing DXCC since
> 1969, almost 40 years and
> I vote with ARRL and the way they do things.
> I know strictly I don't get to vote, being a G but
> they make it interesting.
> I love the DXCC and thanks to the  ARRL for giving
> me something
> to chase.
> Regards.
> David G3XYP (worked em all one mode or another - but
> not em all on all
> modes!)
> 
> You can please some of the dx-ers all of the time,
> and all of the dx-ers
> some of the time, but you cannot please  all of the
> dx-ers all of the time.
> Abe Lincoln said that, or was it Bob Dylan, I'm
> getting too old!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 2:37 PM
> Subject: *** SPAM *** [DX-CHAT] "Country" definition
> ...
> 
> 
> >
> > Does anyone else think it is time to update the
> DXCC criteria to
> > specify a combination of the US Department of
> State "Independent
> > States in the World" list
> http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm
> > plus the list of "Dependencies and Areas of
> Special Sovereignty"
> > http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm?
> >
> > The two lists plus the minimum separation
> standards are a rather
> > clear and objective criteria for "political
> entities."
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems
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> NJDXA
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Re: [DX-CHAT] "Country" definition ...

2008-04-01 Thread Tom Wylie
Whilst not wanting get embroiled in a is it or isn't it situation - I'd 
venture to suggest it does need a look at. 
In NO way, shape or form is Scarborough Reef an entity.   It is a rock, 
or to be more specific a collection of rocks.


There are many others out there too that need some closer scrutiny.

Mount Athos - what happens when Monk Appollo has gone?   Is it erased or 
do we hope (forever) another Monk takes up the hobby?   Why is a closed 
entity still on the list???


We could go on and on.



Tom
GM4FDM



David Rollitt wrote:

Hey Joe,

Nope, don't like it, I've been chasing DXCC since 1969, almost 40 years and
I vote with ARRL and the way they do things.
I know strictly I don't get to vote, being a G but they make it interesting.
I love the DXCC and thanks to the  ARRL for giving me something
to chase.
Regards.
David G3XYP (worked em all one mode or another - but not em all on all
modes!)

You can please some of the dx-ers all of the time, and all of the dx-ers
some of the time, but you cannot please  all of the dx-ers all of the time.
Abe Lincoln said that, or was it Bob Dylan, I'm getting too old!




- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 2:37 PM
Subject: *** SPAM *** [DX-CHAT] "Country" definition ...


  

Does anyone else think it is time to update the DXCC criteria to
specify a combination of the US Department of State "Independent
States in the World" list http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm
plus the list of "Dependencies and Areas of Special Sovereignty"
http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm?

The two lists plus the minimum separation standards are a rather
clear and objective criteria for "political entities."

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV






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[DX-CHAT] "Country" definition ...

2008-04-01 Thread David Rollitt
Hey Joe,

Nope, don't like it, I've been chasing DXCC since 1969, almost 40 years and
I vote with ARRL and the way they do things.
I know strictly I don't get to vote, being a G but they make it interesting.
I love the DXCC and thanks to the  ARRL for giving me something
to chase.
Regards.
David G3XYP (worked em all one mode or another - but not em all on all
modes!)

You can please some of the dx-ers all of the time, and all of the dx-ers
some of the time, but you cannot please  all of the dx-ers all of the time.
Abe Lincoln said that, or was it Bob Dylan, I'm getting too old!




- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 2:37 PM
Subject: *** SPAM *** [DX-CHAT] "Country" definition ...


>
> Does anyone else think it is time to update the DXCC criteria to
> specify a combination of the US Department of State "Independent
> States in the World" list http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm
> plus the list of "Dependencies and Areas of Special Sovereignty"
> http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm?
>
> The two lists plus the minimum separation standards are a rather
> clear and objective criteria for "political entities."
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[DX-CHAT] "Country" definition ...

2008-04-01 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Does anyone else think it is time to update the DXCC criteria to 
specify a combination of the US Department of State "Independent 
States in the World" list http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm 
plus the list of "Dependencies and Areas of Special Sovereignty" 
http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm?  

The two lists plus the minimum separation standards are a rather 
clear and objective criteria for "political entities." 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 
  




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