Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld?......and QRM.....
Hi all On the QRM front, I've noticed a huge increase in RF noise from items like Christmas lights this year. Someone a couple of street away put some twinkling LED lights in his garden, purchased from Tesco (a large supermarket chain here in the UK). These fill 160 and 80m with a rasping noise over S9 and fill 20m with the same s9plus noise beaming in that direction. Clearly the wire to the lamps works like an antenna, transmitting diode hash and rubbish from the switched mode supply. Needless to say, they're cheap Chinese trash from the Ping Pong Poo Electrics Company (or whoever). Electrical gear that is sold in the EU is supposed to be tested and CE marked as compliant with standards, but enforcement of this is non-existent. Even big companies like BT (British Temecom) falsely and fraudulently stamp CE on their home networking devices which are staggeringly non-compliant with RFI standards. Anyway, this next bit is hilarious. I got this reply to my message laughing at IBM, presumably from someone on the DX-CHAT group. It's anonymous and comes from a non-existent email address. I wonder if this is the mindset of the spineless little people who cause deliberate and anonymous QRM to dxpeditions: QUOTE From: tufts68...@mypacks.net tufts68...@mypacks.net You arrogant bastard... P.S. I've worked in IT for 45 years, and fired dozens of arrogant a- like you. END-QUOTE (bad language deleted by me) I just love it when the reptiles come out from under their stones, don't you? Wouldn't you have thought he'd at least have the courage to put his name? Now you know who was probably sending a carrier and dits all day over BS7H. Happy New Year and Good DX to you all! OILy --- On Mon, 29/12/08, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com wrote: From: DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org, wn3...@verizon.net Cc: w1...@arrl.org Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 11:05 PM Oh, so notching is a new development, eh? Well it probably is if you're a dullard who works for a bunch of buffoons like IBM! Maybe if Ray Blair talked the the ham radio operators (who amazingly still have clout) he'd find that we amazingly still have more knowledge and intelligence than monkeys in blue suits like him cheers Dave G0OIL (PS I work in IT. It's always my pleasure to fire IBM consultants off site. And EDS. And Accenture. And Tata...) --- On Mon, 29/12/08, Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net wrote: From: Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net Subject: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: w1...@arrl.org Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 7:59 PM Nice little article on Infoworld's site today, about the 10 most under-reported tech stories of 2008. Of interest to us is #6: BPL is Back from the Dead (see http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/12/29/53FE-tech-underreported-powerline_1.html ) Of note in the article is this paragraph: And another recent innovation, called notching, lets the chips switch frequencies when meeting interference. This upgrade should quiet the fears of ham radio operators (who amazingly enough have still have significant clout) and others that BPL will cause problems for various radio services, says Ray Blair, IBM's head of advanced networking. Who amazingly enough have still have significant clout ??? Never mind the bad English (don't they employ editors anymore? or proof readers?). I'm not sure if we should take that as an insult or a compliment. What do you think? 73 --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld?......and QRM.....
I still contend that IBM and others have no real RF engineers working for them. None of them seem to understand radio-frequency interference or near-channel effects on things such as noise floor. We studied all of that when I was in college in 1974 studying RF engineering. It's not new data, just neglected. And of course means extra cost to limit the RF noise. 73, Zack W9SZ On 12/30/08, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi all On the QRM front, I've noticed a huge increase in RF noise from items like Christmas lights this year. Someone a couple of street away put some twinkling LED lights in his garden, purchased from Tesco (a large supermarket chain here in the UK). These fill 160 and 80m with a rasping noise over S9 and fill 20m with the same s9plus noise beaming in that direction. Clearly the wire to the lamps works like an antenna, transmitting diode hash and rubbish from the switched mode supply. Needless to say, they're cheap Chinese trash from the Ping Pong Poo Electrics Company (or whoever). Electrical gear that is sold in the EU is supposed to be tested and CE marked as compliant with standards, but enforcement of this is non-existent. Even big companies like BT (British Temecom) falsely and fraudulently stamp CE on their home networking devices which are staggeringly non-compliant with RFI standards. Anyway, this next bit is hilarious. I got this reply to my message laughing at IBM, presumably from someone on the DX-CHAT group. It's anonymous and comes from a non-existent email address. I wonder if this is the mindset of the spineless little people who cause deliberate and anonymous QRM to dxpeditions: QUOTE From: tufts68...@mypacks.net tufts68...@mypacks.net http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AsPh9P5rGh.45Dt3zuGjyFLDAL4X/SIG=1u9lqkca4/**http%3A//address.mail.yahoo.com/yab%3Fv=YM%26A=m%26simp=1%26e=tufts68116%2540mypacks.net%26fn=tufts68116%2540mypacks.net%26.done=http%253A%252F%252Fuk.mc863.mail.yahoo.com%252Fmc%252FshowMessage%253Ffid%253DInbox%2526sort%253Ddate%2526order%253Ddown%2526startMid%253D0%2526.rand%253D992080083%2526da%253D0%2526midIndex%253D6%2526mid%253D1_499_AHS8ktkAAIt%25252BSVmHAQBPag4Eqs4%2526prevMid%253D1_200508_ABS8ktkAAEDWSVm4TwfeETK5iW0%2526nextMid%253D1_200174_AHK8ktkAAF2mSVm4QQ8A6H5zhuc%2526m%253D1_201993_AHG8ktkAAPc%25252FSVniow5uGlodvdM%252C1_201592_AG%25252B8ktkAAT2KSVnTtAQdulrVV38%252C1_201225_AHC8ktkAAAd6SVnHPA1aVWMMeso%252C1_200866_AHG8ktkAAEFySVm4XwCy1G%25252FP1rU%252C1_200508_ABS8ktkAAEDWSVm4TwfeETK5iW0%252C1_499_AHS8ktkAAIt%25252BSVmHAQBPag4Eqs4%252C1_200174_AHK8ktkAAF2mSVm4QQ8A6H5zhuc%252C1_199831_AHW8ktkAAAphSVm4MwxZIgndygY%252C1_199352_ABO8ktkAAM5xSVm4HwGnVCdHbKM%252C1_8%0A33_AHS8ktkAAGtuSVlaZQF7nUIrZ%25252B0%252C1_1190_AHS8ktkAAGwUSVlaWwyRPBdfwH0%252C You arrogant bastard... P.S. I've worked in IT for 45 years, and fired dozens of arrogant a- like you. END-QUOTE (bad language deleted by me) I just love it when the reptiles come out from under their stones, don't you? Wouldn't you have thought he'd at least have the courage to put his name? Now you know who was probably sending a carrier and dits all day over BS7H. Happy New Year and Good DX to you all! OILy --- On *Mon, 29/12/08, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com* wrote: From: DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org, wn3...@verizon.net Cc: w1...@arrl.org Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 11:05 PM Oh, so notching is a new development, eh? Well it probably is if you're a dullard who works for a bunch of buffoons like IBM! Maybe if Ray Blair talked the the ham radio operators (who amazingly still have clout) he'd find that we amazingly still have more knowledge and intelligence than monkeys in blue suits like him cheers Dave G0OIL (PS I work in IT. It's always my pleasure to fire IBM consultants off site. And EDS. And Accenture. And Tata...) --- On *Mon, 29/12/08, Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net* wrote: From: Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net Subject: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: w1...@arrl.org Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 7:59 PM Nice little article on Infoworld's site today, about the 10 most under-reported tech stories of 2008. Of interest to us is #6: BPL is Back from the Dead (see http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/12/29/53FE-tech-underreported-powerline_1.html) Of note in the article is this paragraph: And another recent innovation, called notching, lets the chips switch frequencies when meeting interference. This upgrade should quiet the fears of ham radio operators (who amazingly enough have still have significant clout) and others that BPL will cause problems for various radio services, says Ray Blair, IBM's head of advanced networking. Who amazingly enough have still have significant clout ??? Never mind the bad English (don't they employ editors anymore? or proof
Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld?......and QRM.....
Hi Zack Sadly I fear that you're correct in every respect. In line with the old maxim In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king experience shows that people who are 99 percent ignorant but talk a good game market themselves as experts to those who are 100 percent ignorant. And of course the latter believe them. Not everyone in this world acts with honesty and integrity, let alone with knowledge. cheers Dave G0OIL --- On Tue, 30/12/08, Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com wrote: From: Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld?..and QRM. To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Tuesday, 30 December, 2008, 3:33 PM I still contend that IBM and others have no real RF engineers working for them. None of them seem to understand radio-frequency interference or near-channel effects on things such as noise floor. We studied all of that when I was in college in 1974 studying RF engineering. It's not new data, just neglected. And of course means extra cost to limit the RF noise. 73, Zack W9SZ On 12/30/08, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi all On the QRM front, I've noticed a huge increase in RF noise from items like Christmas lights this year. Someone a couple of street away put some twinkling LED lights in his garden, purchased from Tesco (a large supermarket chain here in the UK). These fill 160 and 80m with a rasping noise over S9 and fill 20m with the same s9plus noise beaming in that direction. Clearly the wire to the lamps works like an antenna, transmitting diode hash and rubbish from the switched mode supply. Needless to say, they're cheap Chinese trash from the Ping Pong Poo Electrics Company (or whoever). Electrical gear that is sold in the EU is supposed to be tested and CE marked as compliant with standards, but enforcement of this is non-existent. Even big companies like BT (British Temecom) falsely and fraudulently stamp CE on their home networking devices which are staggeringly non-compliant with RFI standards. Anyway, this next bit is hilarious. I got this reply to my message laughing at IBM, presumably from someone on the DX-CHAT group. It's anonymous and comes from a non-existent email address. I wonder if this is the mindset of the spineless little people who cause deliberate and anonymous QRM to dxpeditions: QUOTE From: tufts68...@mypacks.net tufts68...@mypacks.net You arrogant bastard... P.S. I've worked in IT for 45 years, and fired dozens of arrogant a- like you. END-QUOTE (bad language deleted by me) I just love it when the reptiles come out from under their stones, don't you? Wouldn't you have thought he'd at least have the courage to put his name? Now you know who was probably sending a carrier and dits all day over BS7H. Happy New Year and Good DX to you all! OILy --- On Mon, 29/12/08, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com wrote: From: DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org, wn3...@verizon.net Cc: w1...@arrl.org Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 11:05 PM Oh, so notching is a new development, eh? Well it probably is if you're a dullard who works for a bunch of buffoons like IBM! Maybe if Ray Blair talked the the ham radio operators (who amazingly still have clout) he'd find that we amazingly still have more knowledge and intelligence than monkeys in blue suits like him cheers Dave G0OIL (PS I work in IT. It's always my pleasure to fire IBM consultants off site. And EDS. And Accenture. And Tata...) --- On Mon, 29/12/08, Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net wrote: From: Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net Subject: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: w1...@arrl.org Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 7:59 PM Nice little article on Infoworld's site today, about the 10 most under-reported tech stories of 2008. Of interest to us is #6: BPL is Back from the Dead (see http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/12/29/53FE-tech-underreported-powerline_1.html ) Of note in the article is this paragraph: And another recent innovation, called notching, lets the chips switch frequencies when meeting interference. This upgrade should quiet the fears of ham radio operators (who amazingly enough have still have significant clout) and others that BPL will cause problems for various radio services, says Ray Blair, IBM's head of advanced networking. Who amazingly enough have still have significant clout ??? Never mind the bad English (don't they employ editors anymore? or proof readers?). I'm not sure if we should take that as an insult or a compliment. What do you think? 73 --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat
Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld?......and QRM.....
Oh yeah. In Latin, the phrase is inter caecos regnat luscus. :-) 73, Zack W9SZ On 12/30/08, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Zack Sadly I fear that you're correct in every respect. In line with the old maxim In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king experience shows that people who are 99 percent ignorant but talk a good game market themselves as experts to those who are 100 percent ignorant. And of course the latter believe them. Not everyone in this world acts with honesty and integrity, let alone with knowledge. cheers Dave G0OIL --- On *Tue, 30/12/08, Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld?..and QRM. To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Tuesday, 30 December, 2008, 3:33 PM I still contend that IBM and others have no real RF engineers working for them. None of them seem to understand radio-frequency interference or near-channel effects on things such as noise floor. We studied all of that when I was in college in 1974 studying RF engineering. It's not new data, just neglected. And of course means extra cost to limit the RF noise. 73, Zack W9SZ On 12/30/08, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi all On the QRM front, I've noticed a huge increase in RF noise from items like Christmas lights this year. Someone a couple of street away put some twinkling LED lights in his garden, purchased from Tesco (a large supermarket chain here in the UK). These fill 160 and 80m with a rasping noise over S9 and fill 20m with the same s9plus noise beaming in that direction. Clearly the wire to the lamps works like an antenna, transmitting diode hash and rubbish from the switched mode supply. Needless to say, they're cheap Chinese trash from the Ping Pong Poo Electrics Company (or whoever). Electrical gear that is sold in the EU is supposed to be tested and CE marked as compliant with standards, but enforcement of this is non-existent. Even big companies like BT (British Temecom) falsely and fraudulently stamp CE on their home networking devices which are staggeringly non-compliant with RFI standards. Anyway, this next bit is hilarious. I got this reply to my message laughing at IBM, presumably from someone on the DX-CHAT group. It's anonymous and comes from a non-existent email address. I wonder if this is the mindset of the spineless little people who cause deliberate and anonymous QRM to dxpeditions: QUOTE From: tufts68...@mypacks.net tufts68...@mypacks.net http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AsPh9P5rGh.45Dt3zuGjyFLDAL4X/SIG=1u9lqkca4/**http%3A//address.mail.yahoo.com/yab%3Fv=YM%26A=m%26simp=1%26e=tufts68116%2540mypacks.net%26fn=tufts68116%2540mypacks.net%26.done=http%253A%252F%252Fuk.mc863.mail.yahoo.com%252Fmc%252FshowMessage%253Ffid%253DInbox%2526sort%253Ddate%2526order%253Ddown%2526startMid%253D0%2526.rand%253D992080083%2526da%253D0%2526midIndex%253D6%2526mid%253D1_499_AHS8ktkAAIt%25252BSVmHAQBPag4Eqs4%2526prevMid%253D1_200508_ABS8ktkAAEDWSVm4TwfeETK5iW0%2526nextMid%253D1_200174_AHK8ktkAAF2mSVm4QQ8A6H5zhuc%2526m%253D1_201993_AHG8ktkAAPc%25252FSVniow5uGlodvdM%252C1_201592_AG%25252B8ktkAAT2KSVnTtAQdulrVV38%252C1_201225_AHC8ktkAAAd6SVnHPA1aVWMMeso%252C1_200866_AHG8ktkAAEFySVm4XwCy1G%25252FP1rU%252C1_200508_ABS8ktkAAEDWSVm4TwfeETK5iW0%252C1_499_AHS8ktkAAIt%25252BSVmHAQBPag4Eqs4%252C1_200174_AHK8ktkAAF2mSVm4QQ8A6H5zhuc%252C1_199831_AHW8ktkAAAphSVm4MwxZIgndygY%252C1_199352_ABO8ktkAAM5xSVm4HwGnVCdHbKM%252C1_8%0A%0A33_AHS8ktkAAGtuSVlaZQF7nUIrZ%25252B0%252C1_1190_AHS8ktkAAGwUSVlaWwyRPBdfwH0%252C You arrogant bastard... P.S. I've worked in IT for 45 years, and fired dozens of arrogant a- like you. END-QUOTE (bad language deleted by me) I just love it when the reptiles come out from under their stones, don't you? Wouldn't you have thought he'd at least have the courage to put his name? Now you know who was probably sending a carrier and dits all day over BS7H. Happy New Year and Good DX to you all! OILy --- On *Mon, 29/12/08, DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com* wrote: From: DAVE WHITE mausop...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org, wn3...@verizon.net Cc: w1...@arrl.org Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 11:05 PM Oh, so notching is a new development, eh? Well it probably is if you're a dullard who works for a bunch of buffoons like IBM! Maybe if Ray Blair talked the the ham radio operators (who amazingly still have clout) he'd find that we amazingly still have more knowledge and intelligence than monkeys in blue suits like him cheers Dave G0OIL (PS I work in IT. It's always my pleasure to fire IBM consultants off site. And EDS. And Accenture. And Tata...) --- On *Mon, 29/12/08, Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net* wrote: From: Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net Subject: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: w1
[DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld?
Nice little article on Infoworld's site today, about the 10 most under-reported tech stories of 2008.Of interest to us is #6: BPL is Back from the Dead (see http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/12/29/53FE-tech-underreported-powerline_1.html )Of note in the article is this paragraph: "And another recent innovation, called notching, lets the chips switch frequencies when meeting interference. This upgrade should quiet the fears of ham radio operators (who amazingly enough have still have significant clout) and others that BPL will cause problems for various radio services, says Ray Blair, IBM's head of advanced networking. ""Who amazingly enough have still have significant clout" ???Never mind the bad English (don't they employ editors anymore? or proof readers?). I'm not sure if we should take that as an insult or a compliment. What do you think?73 ---To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message toimail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chator subscribe dx-chatThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld?
Oh, so notching is a new development, eh? Well it probably is if you're a dullard who works for a bunch of buffoons like IBM! Maybe if Ray Blair talked the the ham radio operators (who amazingly still have clout) he'd find that we amazingly still have more knowledge and intelligence than monkeys in blue suits like him cheers Dave G0OIL (PS I work in IT. It's always my pleasure to fire IBM consultants off site. And EDS. And Accenture. And Tata...) --- On Mon, 29/12/08, Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net wrote: From: Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net Subject: [DX-CHAT] Dissed by Infoworld? To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Cc: w1...@arrl.org Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 7:59 PM Nice little article on Infoworld's site today, about the 10 most under-reported tech stories of 2008. Of interest to us is #6: BPL is Back from the Dead (see http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/12/29/53FE-tech-underreported-powerline_1.html ) Of note in the article is this paragraph: And another recent innovation, called notching, lets the chips switch frequencies when meeting interference. This upgrade should quiet the fears of ham radio operators (who amazingly enough have still have significant clout) and others that BPL will cause problems for various radio services, says Ray Blair, IBM's head of advanced networking. Who amazingly enough have still have significant clout ??? Never mind the bad English (don't they employ editors anymore? or proof readers?). I'm not sure if we should take that as an insult or a compliment. What do you think? 73 --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
