Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART
I am vehemently opposed to waterboarding---EXCEPT when it comes to spammers! I say, drown the SOB's. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:17 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART Randy, The offending (and I do mean offending) party is of the opinion that since you, as a ham, have an email address, he has the right to send you his junk mail pushing his alleged "art" work. And he changes ISP's with enough frequency that simply blocking his address (or sending it to the bit bucket) is a temporary measure. If you try to ask him to simply remove you from future mailings, as Jim and I and countless others have done in the past -- not at all an unreasonable request -- he either claims it's too much bother, or is not technically feasible considering the number of mailings he sends out daily; or je replies along the lines that Jim mentions. Sadly, I fear that the ultimate result of Jim's suggestion is that IF the ISP's in question remove the offender from their service... he'll find someone else. And, sadly, there's always someone else. (Personally, I think we should arrange for him to be bound and gagged in a small room and subjected to a non-stop playing of "the rhythm of the code" for a few days. It drove people nutz in the Hamvention flea market after only a few hours... dang, it's not constitutional, "cruel and unusual punishment.") 73, ron w3wn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of WX5L Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART Maybe an alternative would be to "mark" that originating email as "junk email" and send it to your garbage can and not even see it in your inbox. 73, Randy WX5L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:25 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART If you are receiving the spam entitled "Radio-Amateurs+ART", I suggest you forward the message (along with your complaint) to one of the following addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you know how, you can scan the mail headers to see which host the mail may have originated from. I have tried to contact the person who sends these messages, and the response I received is basically, "If you don't want the mail, remove your E-mail address from the Internet". 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART
Randy, The offending (and I do mean offending) party is of the opinion that since you, as a ham, have an email address, he has the right to send you his junk mail pushing his alleged "art" work. And he changes ISP's with enough frequency that simply blocking his address (or sending it to the bit bucket) is a temporary measure. If you try to ask him to simply remove you from future mailings, as Jim and I and countless others have done in the past -- not at all an unreasonable request -- he either claims it's too much bother, or is not technically feasible considering the number of mailings he sends out daily; or je replies along the lines that Jim mentions. Sadly, I fear that the ultimate result of Jim's suggestion is that IF the ISP's in question remove the offender from their service... he'll find someone else. And, sadly, there's always someone else. (Personally, I think we should arrange for him to be bound and gagged in a small room and subjected to a non-stop playing of "the rhythm of the code" for a few days. It drove people nutz in the Hamvention flea market after only a few hours... dang, it's not constitutional, "cruel and unusual punishment.") 73, ron w3wn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of WX5L Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART Maybe an alternative would be to "mark" that originating email as "junk email" and send it to your garbage can and not even see it in your inbox. 73, Randy WX5L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:25 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART If you are receiving the spam entitled "Radio-Amateurs+ART", I suggest you forward the message (along with your complaint) to one of the following addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you know how, you can scan the mail headers to see which host the mail may have originated from. I have tried to contact the person who sends these messages, and the response I received is basically, "If you don't want the mail, remove your E-mail address from the Internet". 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART
Maybe an alternative would be to "mark" that originating email as "junk email" and send it to your garbage can and not even see it in your inbox. 73, Randy WX5L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:25 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART If you are receiving the spam entitled "Radio-Amateurs+ART", I suggest you forward the message (along with your complaint) to one of the following addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you know how, you can scan the mail headers to see which host the mail may have originated from. I have tried to contact the person who sends these messages, and the response I received is basically, "If you don't want the mail, remove your E-mail address from the Internet". 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART
Has anyone tried to report him to the Belgian spam authorities? There are often email addresses to which you can forward offending messages. Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART
Translation: It's our own fault that he's spamming us, because we had the audacity to make our email addresses available somewhere on the Internet where Google or another search engine can find them. And he has no control over it. So if you don't like it, trash it or don't post your email address. Sounds like a politician. He just CAN'T help himself, so by enabling him, it's your fault! What a crock. I'd be more specific, but this is a family reflector, and I'm supposed to try and set a good example. 73 -Original Message- From: Jim Reisert AD1C Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:06 AM To: dx-chat@Njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART Here is a response I received back from ON4AW. I had to laugh at the "p.s.". 73 - Jim AD1C [content edited for punctuation and spelling] Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:56:27 -0700 From: "marie acke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Radio-Amateurs+ART Dear OM Jim, thank you for your message. I cannot remove you from a list, because I have no list. It has never been my intention to send you more than once that mail. But I am searching for Radio-Amateurs on the Internet with Google. That means, that without doubt, Google has found you several times, and then, your mail is sent, together with others, in a package. It is impossible for me to control if I have already sent this mail to you, because up to now, more than 165000 hams from 121 countries have given me favorable answers. So if you would receive the same mail in the future, this is not meant to bother you or to annoy you. In such a case, please simply throw it into the trash. Thank you. Till we meet in a QSO on the 20 m band or the 15 m band, where we are most active / 73 ON4AW P.S. the simplest solution would be to remove your email from the Internet. Your true friends and family-members know your mail. If some radio-amateur-group has put you on the net, probably without your consent, ask them to remove you. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART
He sounds like the perfect candidate to: 1) test your killfile/email trash filter on 2) meet Paul Vixie. 73 John K5MO At 10:05 AM 3/20/2007, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: Here is a response I received back from ON4AW. I had to laugh at the "p.s.". 73 - Jim AD1C [content edited for punctuation and spelling] Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:56:27 -0700 From: "marie acke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Radio-Amateurs+ART Dear OM Jim, thank you for your message. I cannot remove you from a list, because I have no list. It has never been my intention to send you more than once that mail. But I am searching for Radio-Amateurs on the Internet with Google. That means, that without doubt, Google has found you several times, and then, your mail is sent, together with others, in a package. It is impossible for me to control if I have already sent this mail to you, because up to now, more than 165000 hams from 121 countries have given me favorable answers. So if you would receive the same mail in the future, this is not meant to bother you or to annoy you. In such a case, please simply throw it into the trash. Thank you. Till we meet in a QSO on the 20 m band or the 15 m band, where we are most active / 73 ON4AW P.S. the simplest solution would be to remove your email from the Internet. Your true friends and family-members know your mail. If some radio-amateur-group has put you on the net, probably without your consent, ask them to remove you. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.14/727 - Release Date: 3/19/2007 11:49 AM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART
Jim: What a bunch of hokey. ON4AW started the mess, but now isn't willing to take responsibility for it. The whole thing reads like some of the answers I used to get from some Texas politicians when I was a newspaper reporter for 20+ years. He started it, but isn't willing to fix it. I can't see how he's gotten 165,000 favorable replies when his e-mail address bounces like an NBA basketball. This e-mail is like one I started receiving several years ago when I was in graduate school at TCU in Fort Worth. The assistant women's basketball coach somehow got into the university's computer server and sent an e-mail to any and all students and former students that still had a tcu.edu e-mail address. She was looking for male students to form a practice team the women's basketball team could scrimmage weekly. You almost had to have a university e-mail because that was how the university notified you of overdue library books, unpaid school accounts, etc. This also was in the days before cable and DSL, although students on campus had access to T-1 lines. I was taking some post-masters classes at the time. Anyway the computer geeks who worked at the university never figured out how she did it because those addresses were behind several layers of protection, they said. She was supposed to send her e-mail to the computer office at TCU and they would send it to one big mail list under one e-mail address, not 8,000-10,000 separate addresses. The e-mail she sent out had something like 10,000-15,000 e-mail addresses listed for current and former students and for some reason I would get two copies of it almost daily for months. Even setting filters on my e-mail browser didn't help. I finally got some help from the tech folks at GTE/Verizon who told me how to access my e-mails without using Netscape's e-mail program. The university finally even deleted the forwarding plan I had (like arrl.net e-mails), but somehow this doggone huge e-mail still found my inbox. With a dialup system it took 10-15 minutes to download. I once tried to reply to it and tell the coach to quit sending it out and after 15 minutes of waiting for all the e-mail addresses to load (unfortunately I had hit reply all) I finally just killed the thing. When I did reply to just her, she never did take responsibility for it, as she was more interested in finding a practice team than taking responsibility for the computer problems she caused. Tom, WW5L Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: Here is a response I received back from ON4AW. I had to laugh at the "p.s.". 73 - Jim AD1C [content edited for punctuation and spelling] Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:56:27 -0700 From: "marie acke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Radio-Amateurs+ART Dear OM Jim, thank you for your message. I cannot remove you from a list, because I have no list. It has never been my intention to send you more than once that mail. But I am searching for Radio-Amateurs on the Internet with Google. That means, that without doubt, Google has found you several times, and then, your mail is sent, together with others, in a package. It is impossible for me to control if I have already sent this mail to you, because up to now, more than 165000 hams from 121 countries have given me favorable answers. So if you would receive the same mail in the future, this is not meant to bother you or to annoy you. In such a case, please simply throw it into the trash. Thank you. Till we meet in a QSO on the 20 m band or the 15 m band, where we are most active / 73 ON4AW P.S. the simplest solution would be to remove your email from the Internet. Your true friends and family-members know your mail. If some radio-amateur-group has put you on the net, probably without your consent, ask them to remove you. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
