[DXR] A DXer's view
To DX, Most Americans and Radio Amateurs are open hearted who enjoy life and their radios. Most of us are peaceful folks who value life, share with others and consider all hams equal. Many of us love working DXwe travel this way, chase awards, play contest, and/or we really believe in "enhancing international good will" via our radios. The messages from DXers on the attracts against our country yesterday have been gratifying and very very appreciated for us here stateside. We thank you. There are some folks and organizations here and other places who are not of faith and life means little ...even the life of women and children. They are cowards clear and simple. They hide behind others while doing their dirty work. Any country or people can be the focus of what we experienced yesterday...11 Sept 2001. We Americans hope you don't, but if you do we will be there for you too. Hard talk is what many of us feel like doing now. But talk is not worth much relative to fixing the problem. I will say, and honestly believe that nothing can stop this country from taking care of the business ahead. As far as I can see and hear, NO ONE is willing to sit back and wait until it happens again, here or abroad. We will take care of the cowards, and let there be no reservations that all Americans will sacrifice if necessary. Those who post ugly comments on clusters and across the internet, let them not be forgotten... ignored please, but not forgotten. So we will grieve and pray, bury our dead, clean up the mess, take measures to help prevent this act from happening again, gather information, rally together, gathering steam, pray some more.. THEN get on board worldride with us to see a better world ahead for all of us without these parasites. America may seem by some as too reserve at times, perhaps to aggressive for a few, but for those who like freedom, here we come!! 73/dx, lynn W4NL and rosie KA4S Maryville, TN Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DXR] A DXer's view
> Hard talk is what many of us feel like doing now. > But talk is not worth much relative to fixing the problem. I will say, and honestly believe that > nothing can stop this country from taking care of > the business ahead. As far as I can see and hear, NO ONE is willing to sit back and wait until it > happens again, here or abroad. We will take care of > the cowards, and let there be no reservations that all Americans will sacrifice if necessary. A sober approach would be to analyse what USA has done wrong in order to create enough hatred so some people are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. With an ignorant president you need some wise and knowledgable people in the government, who can review your foreign policy and come up with some much needed changes.The lack of understanding the world outside USA and to some extent Western-Europe has led USA to make some serious mistakes. Not knowing who committed the horrible terror attack, for the sake of argument let me just make an example: It does not take a rocket scientist to understand that the lack of support to the Palestinians struggle for freedom and selfdetermination is not winning friends in the Arab world while at the same time the oppressers are receiving several billion in "aid" every year . You may not believe it, but in many places around in the world, some of us have had to stress that we are not Americans in order to be treated politely ! With respect and sorrow 73 Rag LA5HE __ Do You Yahoo!? Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
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I must ask that Steve and Urb not banish me for making this reply. I have held off as long as I can stand it, so if I must be banned so be it. Rag, I am offended at this message that you have posted. It is not the fault of the United States that we have been attacked. You cannot make excuses for these cowards who have done this. You should be ashamed, and should immediately apologize to all on these lists. We do not have an ignorant President. Setting all partisian politics aside, members of both of our American parties have fully praised our President for the way he was been handling this crisis. Once more, America is not the party to "blame" for this tradegy. The cowards and fanatics and those who give them safe refuge and spread hatred thoughout the world are the ones to blame, and the ones who will feel the heat of America in the days to come. For now, you should feel the heat for posting this insensible message on our radio lists. God Bless America== 73 and hopefully we can get back to DX, I just don't feel like it today. Jim K4PYT =?iso-8859-1?q?ragnar=20otterstad?= wrote: > > > Hard talk is what many of us feel like doing now. > > But talk is not worth much relative to fixing the > problem. I will say, and honestly believe that > > nothing can stop this country from taking care of > > the business ahead. As far as I can see and hear, NO > ONE is willing to sit back and wait until it > > happens again, here or abroad. We will take care of > > the cowards, and let there be no reservations that > all Americans will sacrifice if necessary. > > A sober approach would be to analyse what USA has done > wrong in order to create enough hatred so some people > are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. With an > ignorant president you need some wise and knowledgable > people in the government, who can review your foreign > policy and come up with some much needed changes.The > lack of understanding the world outside USA and to > some extent Western-Europe has led USA to make some > serious mistakes. Not knowing who committed the > horrible terror attack, for the sake of argument let > me just make an example: It does not take a rocket > scientist to understand that the lack of support to > the Palestinians struggle for freedom and > selfdetermination is not winning friends in the Arab > world while at the same time the oppressers are > receiving several billion in "aid" every year . > > You may not believe it, but in many places around in > the world, some of us have had to stress that we are > not Americans in order to be treated politely ! > > With respect and sorrow > 73 Rag LA5HE > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
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I agree with Jim! I think the people that run this reflector should immediately unsubscribe Rag, LA5HE. I do not feel he is worthy being associated with proud Americans and the rest of the free world.. Shame on you Rag - Please don't ever call me on the air when I am transmitting home or abroad. I am ashame of you! Bill W4WX James Nipper wrote: > I must ask that Steve and Urb not banish me for making this reply. I > have held off as long as I can stand it, so if I must be banned so be > it. > > Rag, I am offended at this message that you have posted. It is not the > fault of the United States that we have been attacked. You cannot make > excuses for these cowards who have done this. You should be ashamed, > and should immediately apologize to all on these lists. > > We do not have an ignorant President. Setting all partisian politics > aside, members of both of our American parties have fully praised our > President for the way he was been handling this crisis. > > Once more, America is not the party to "blame" for this tradegy. The > cowards and fanatics and those who give them safe refuge and spread > hatred thoughout the world are the ones to blame, and the ones who will > feel the heat of America in the days to come. > > For now, you should feel the heat for posting this insensible message on > our radio lists. > > God Bless America== > > 73 and hopefully we can get back to DX, I just don't feel like it > today. > > Jim K4PYT > > =?iso-8859-1?q?ragnar=20otterstad?= wrote: > > > > > > > A sober approach would be to analyse what USA has done > > wrong in order to create enough hatred so some people > > are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. With an > > ignorant president you need some wise and knowledgable > > people in the government, who can review your foreign > > policy and come up with some much needed changes.The > > lack of understanding the world outside USA and to > > some extent Western-Europe has led USA to make some > > serious mistakes. Not knowing who committed the > > horrible terror attack, for the sake of argument let > > me just make an example: It does not take a rocket > > scientist to understand that the lack of support to > > the Palestinians struggle for freedom and > > selfdetermination is not winning friends in the Arab > > world while at the same time the oppressers are > > receiving several billion in "aid" every year . > > > > You may not believe it, but in many places around in > > the world, some of us have had to stress that we are > > not Americans in order to be treated politely ! > > > > With respect and sorrow > > 73 Rag LA5HE > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news > > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > > This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
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Hey Rag, (Great name for a guy like you) You impotent little windsock, If it were not for us your sorry ass would be speaking german or russian now. Scumbag PAW WB2LBQ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
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You may not believe it, but in many places around in the world, some of us have had to stress that we are not Americans in order to be treated politely ! With respect and sorrow 73 Rag LA5HE Not very long ago, I became a Naturalized American. I may not have been born in the US, but, with the recent events, I am never more proud to be an American. This week, we all became New Yorkers. 73 Chen, AA6TY
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Everything what happened in New York and Washington is still like a nightmare for us here. It has been so awful that I still can't believe it . We are watching TV all the time and although I'm very keen on our Radio I have even no spirits to turn it on. In Poland at 1900 local time /in 20 minutes/ we will fire candles in windows of our houses in a memory of all victims and that we are with you Friends in US in this moment. 73 GL Rys SP5EWY Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
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> Rag, I find your comments to be extremely offensive at this time of great sorrow here in New York. You should be ashamed! Bill K2TQC > > A sober approach would be to analyse what USA has done > wrong in order to create enough hatred so some people > are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. With an > ignorant president you need some wise and knowledgable > people in the government, who can review your foreign > policy and come up with some much needed changes.The > lack of understanding the world outside USA and to > some extent Western-Europe has led USA to make some > serious mistakes. Not knowing who committed the > horrible terror attack, for the sake of argument let > me just make an example: It does not take a rocket > scientist to understand that the lack of support to > the Palestinians struggle for freedom and > selfdetermination is not winning friends in the Arab > world while at the same time the oppressers are > receiving several billion in "aid" every year . > > You may not believe it, but in many places around in > the world, some of us have had to stress that we are > not Americans in order to be treated politely ! > > With respect and sorrow > 73 Rag LA5HE > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
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I find myself revolted by the posting of Ragnar Otterstad, as no doubt many others who have read it. I have never before submitted a posting, but this posting of Rag,s has infuriated me to the point where I cannot remain silent. I am only hope for the punishment to the those responsible for the events in Washington and New York is swift and deadly...Bruce Barber KL7D ragnar otterstad wrote: > > > Hard talk is what many of us feel like doing now. > > But talk is not worth much relative to fixing the > problem. I will say, and honestly believe that > > nothing can stop this country from taking care of > > the business ahead. As far as I can see and hear, NO > ONE is willing to sit back and wait until it > > happens again, here or abroad. We will take care of > > the cowards, and let there be no reservations that > all Americans will sacrifice if necessary. > > A sober approach would be to analyse what USA has done > wrong in order to create enough hatred so some people > are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. With an > ignorant president you need some wise and knowledgable > people in the government, who can review your foreign > policy and come up with some much needed changes.The > lack of understanding the world outside USA and to > some extent Western-Europe has led USA to make some > serious mistakes. Not knowing who committed the > horrible terror attack, for the sake of argument let > me just make an example: It does not take a rocket > scientist to understand that the lack of support to > the Palestinians struggle for freedom and > selfdetermination is not winning friends in the Arab > world while at the same time the oppressers are > receiving several billion in "aid" every year . > > You may not believe it, but in many places around in > the world, some of us have had to stress that we are > not Americans in order to be treated politely ! > > With respect and sorrow > 73 Rag LA5HE > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
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You claim you are sober but no one believes you! You are drunk with the bitterness of your abnormal behavior and the megalonomy of an insignificant person. Shame on you! You call yourself a DXer... you are so very wrong! You are a despicable individual and should be treated like one. GET OUT OF HERE! Leo, CT1CSN - Original Message - From: "ragnar otterstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lynn Lamb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "DXR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "W6UB Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "W4UWC George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "W4TO Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "W4PV Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "W4PCA Carroll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "W4FOA Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Scott W4PA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "N4VV Doyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "N4MIK Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "N4EFD Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "N4AA Carl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "KR4BQ Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "K8EJ Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "K7OM Ted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "K4MQG Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "K4JI Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "K4GN Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "K4EH Oscar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "K3ZR Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "AJ4L John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "AA4WX Charlie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 02:37 PM Subject: [DXR] A DXer's view > > > Hard talk is what many of us feel like doing now. > > But talk is not worth much relative to fixing the > problem. I will say, and honestly believe that > > nothing can stop this country from taking care of > > the business ahead. As far as I can see and hear, NO > ONE is willing to sit back and wait until it > > happens again, here or abroad. We will take care of > > the cowards, and let there be no reservations that > all Americans will sacrifice if necessary. > > > A sober approach would be to analyse what USA has done > wrong in order to create enough hatred so some people > are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. With an > ignorant president you need some wise and knowledgable > people in the government, who can review your foreign > policy and come up with some much needed changes.The > lack of understanding the world outside USA and to > some extent Western-Europe has led USA to make some > serious mistakes. Not knowing who committed the > horrible terror attack, for the sake of argument let > me just make an example: It does not take a rocket > scientist to understand that the lack of support to > the Palestinians struggle for freedom and > selfdetermination is not winning friends in the Arab > world while at the same time the oppressers are > receiving several billion in "aid" every year . > > You may not believe it, but in many places around in > the world, some of us have had to stress that we are > not Americans in order to be treated politely ! > > With respect and sorrow > 73 Rag LA5HE > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
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I disagree passionately with Rag, and I sent him a private message outlining my disagreement in considerable detail. However, Billy, he is entitled to his opinion, without retribution. Have you forgotten what makes America the great nation it is? I'll give you a clue---it is not censorship. Please stay focussed on who the enemy is. Garry, NI6T "Billy R. Gallier" wrote: > I agree with Jim! > I think the people that run this reflector should immediately unsubscribe Rag, > LA5HE. I do not feel he is worthy being associated with proud Americans and > the rest of the free world.. > Shame on you Rag - Please don't ever call me on the air when I am transmitting > home or abroad. I am ashame of you! > Bill W4WX > > James Nipper wrote: > > > I must ask that Steve and Urb not banish me for making this reply. I > > have held off as long as I can stand it, so if I must be banned so be > > it. > > > > Rag, I am offended at this message that you have posted. It is not the > > fault of the United States that we have been attacked. You cannot make > > excuses for these cowards who have done this. You should be ashamed, > > and should immediately apologize to all on these lists. > > > > We do not have an ignorant President. Setting all partisian politics > > aside, members of both of our American parties have fully praised our > > President for the way he was been handling this crisis. > > > > Once more, America is not the party to "blame" for this tradegy. The > > cowards and fanatics and those who give them safe refuge and spread > > hatred thoughout the world are the ones to blame, and the ones who will > > feel the heat of America in the days to come. > > > > For now, you should feel the heat for posting this insensible message on > > our radio lists. > > > > God Bless America== > > > > 73 and hopefully we can get back to DX, I just don't feel like it > > today. > > > > Jim K4PYT > > > > =?iso-8859-1?q?ragnar=20otterstad?= wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > A sober approach would be to analyse what USA has done > > > wrong in order to create enough hatred so some people > > > are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. With an > > > ignorant president you need some wise and knowledgable > > > people in the government, who can review your foreign > > > policy and come up with some much needed changes.The > > > lack of understanding the world outside USA and to > > > some extent Western-Europe has led USA to make some > > > serious mistakes. Not knowing who committed the > > > horrible terror attack, for the sake of argument let > > > me just make an example: It does not take a rocket > > > scientist to understand that the lack of support to > > > the Palestinians struggle for freedom and > > > selfdetermination is not winning friends in the Arab > > > world while at the same time the oppressers are > > > receiving several billion in "aid" every year . > > > > > > You may not believe it, but in many places around in > > > the world, some of us have had to stress that we are > > > not Americans in order to be treated politely ! > > > > > > With respect and sorrow > > > 73 Rag LA5HE > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com > > > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news > > > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > > > This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news > > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > > This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- 160 meters-not a band but an obsession Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
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Why didn't you send this last message private. Because you want everyone to see what you sent. You wanted all to think only you understand censorship, people's right to speak out, etc. Why is it when someone responds to another persons statement is always his/hers "free speech" or "his/her opinion" but at the same time you are getting on someone that just stated his opinion, like my opinion of Rag? Don't I have the freedom of speech? Too many bad people hiding behind "freedom of speech". It appears that there is an excuse for everything bad in this world. You can always think of some reason for this insanity! I just had to speak out against Rag's remarks. All proud American's should. We need to speak out more often. Now I just exercised my freedom of speech. Right? I would like to see the likes of Rag disappear! Bill USN-Retired Garry Shapiro wrote: > I disagree passionately with Rag, and I sent him a private message outlining my > disagreement in considerable detail. > > However, Billy, he is entitled to his opinion, without retribution. Have you > forgotten what makes America the great nation it is? I'll give you a clue---it is > not censorship. Please stay focussed on who the enemy is. > > Garry, NI6T > > "Billy R. Gallier" wrote: > > > I agree with Jim! > > I think the people that run this reflector should immediately unsubscribe Rag, > > LA5HE. I do not feel he is worthy being associated with proud Americans and > > the rest of the free world.. > > Shame on you Rag - Please don't ever call me on the air when I am transmitting > > home or abroad. I am ashame of you! > > Bill W4WX > > > > James Nipper wrote: > > > > > I must ask that Steve and Urb not banish me for making this reply. I > > > have held off as long as I can stand it, so if I must be banned so be > > > it. > > > > > > Rag, I am offended at this message that you have posted. It is not the > > > fault of the United States that we have been attacked. You cannot make > > > excuses for these cowards who have done this. You should be ashamed, > > > and should immediately apologize to all on these lists. > > > > > > We do not have an ignorant President. Setting all partisian politics > > > aside, members of both of our American parties have fully praised our > > > President for the way he was been handling this crisis. > > > > > > Once more, America is not the party to "blame" for this tradegy. The > > > cowards and fanatics and those who give them safe refuge and spread > > > hatred thoughout the world are the ones to blame, and the ones who will > > > feel the heat of America in the days to come. > > > > > > For now, you should feel the heat for posting this insensible message on > > > our radio lists. > > > > > > God Bless America== > > > > > > 73 and hopefully we can get back to DX, I just don't feel like it > > > today. > > > > > > Jim K4PYT > > > > > > =?iso-8859-1?q?ragnar=20otterstad?= wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A sober approach would be to analyse what USA has done > > > > wrong in order to create enough hatred so some people > > > > are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. With an > > > > ignorant president you need some wise and knowledgable > > > > people in the government, who can review your foreign > > > > policy and come up with some much needed changes.The > > > > lack of understanding the world outside USA and to > > > > some extent Western-Europe has led USA to make some > > > > serious mistakes. Not knowing who committed the > > > > horrible terror attack, for the sake of argument let > > > > me just make an example: It does not take a rocket > > > > scientist to understand that the lack of support to > > > > the Palestinians struggle for freedom and > > > > selfdetermination is not winning friends in the Arab > > > > world while at the same time the oppressers are > > > > receiving several billion in "aid" every year . > > > > > > > > You may not believe it, but in many places around in > > > > the world, some of us have had to stress that we are > > > > not Americans in order to be treated politely ! > > > > > > > > With respect and sorrow > > > > 73 Rag LA5HE > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news > > > > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > > > > This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org > > > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news > > > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > > >
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Let me re-echo KF2TI's request that this discussion be moved to DX CHAT. That's why it was created, gang... And those of you who disagree with the original poster's POV -- remember, watch the language on the reflectors. This is kinda like MLB, the NFL & the NHL -- the ref or ump often misses the original transgression but catches and punishes the reaction, no matter how justified. 73, Ron WN3VAW DX Chat Moderator
Re: [DXR] A DXer's view
Bravo Zulu: K6VX > Why didn't you send this last message private. Because you want everyone to see what > you sent. You wanted all to think only you understand censorship, people's right to > speak out, etc. > Why is it when someone responds to another persons statement is always his/hers "free > speech" or "his/her opinion" but at the same time you are getting on someone that > just stated his opinion, like my opinion of Rag? Don't I have the freedom of speech? > Too many bad people hiding behind "freedom of speech". > It appears that there is an excuse for everything bad in this world. You can always > think of some reason for this insanity! > I just had to speak out against Rag's remarks. All proud American's should. We need > to speak out more often. > Now I just exercised my freedom of speech. Right? > I would like to see the likes of Rag disappear! > Bill > USN-Retired > > I disagree passionately with Rag, and I sent him a private message outlining my > > disagreement in considerable detail. > > > > However, Billy, he is entitled to his opinion, without retribution. Have you > > forgotten what makes America the great nation it is? I'll give you a clue---it is > > not censorship. Please stay focussed on who the enemy is. > > > > Garry, NI6T Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DXR] A DXer's view
When you assert that terrorism can be justifiable - "...analyse what USA has done wrong in order to create enough hatred..." - you are directly encouraging those who choose this barbaric and cowardly path. While much of the world is saying "We are Americans", you seem to be saying "I am a terrorist". -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ragnar otterstad Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:37 AM To: Lynn Lamb; DXR Cc: W6UB Larry; W4UWC George; W4TO Don; W4PV Patrick; W4PCA Carroll; W4FOA Tony; Scott W4PA; N4VV Doyle; N4MIK Mike; N4EFD Ed; N4AA Carl; KR4BQ Rob; K8EJ Steve; K7OM Ted; K4MQG Gary; K4JI Bob; K4GN Don; K4EH Oscar; K3ZR Pete; AJ4L John; AA4WX Charlie Subject: [DXR] A DXer's view > Hard talk is what many of us feel like doing now. > But talk is not worth much relative to fixing the problem. I will say, and honestly believe that > nothing can stop this country from taking care of > the business ahead. As far as I can see and hear, NO ONE is willing to sit back and wait until it > happens again, here or abroad. We will take care of > the cowards, and let there be no reservations that all Americans will sacrifice if necessary. A sober approach would be to analyse what USA has done wrong in order to create enough hatred so some people are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. With an ignorant president you need some wise and knowledgable people in the government, who can review your foreign policy and come up with some much needed changes.The lack of understanding the world outside USA and to some extent Western-Europe has led USA to make some serious mistakes. Not knowing who committed the horrible terror attack, for the sake of argument let me just make an example: It does not take a rocket scientist to understand that the lack of support to the Palestinians struggle for freedom and selfdetermination is not winning friends in the Arab world while at the same time the oppressers are receiving several billion in "aid" every year . You may not believe it, but in many places around in the world, some of us have had to stress that we are not Americans in order to be treated politely ! With respect and sorrow 73 Rag LA5HE __ Do You Yahoo!? Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
