Re: [DXR] FW: 20 meter DX window
B. Peter Treml wrote: > > John, 14195 HAS BEEN the established DX window for decades. This is > not something new. 73,Pete-K8PT Come to think of it I think you are right. I just hope that some over eager DXers chase away anyone not on a DXpedition (scheduled or not) that calls CQ on the frequency. It's that I have heard some IOTA types that jump in on 14.260 and tell stations to QSY as the frequency belongs to IOTA whether there is activity or not. Thanks input Pete. John N6JM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DXR] FW: 20 meter DX window
Most times if a real DX comes up on 14.195 and calls CQ, any other rag chewers are welcome to try to bear the presence of hundreds of other callers if they wish. Anyone trying to enjoy a ragchew and at the same time is the holder of a sound mind and generous heart would immediately QSY. Unfortunately, the current test to become a ham radio operator concentrates on arcane technology and math...never used by average ham... and tests little about OPERATING CORRECTLY and with courtesy. I have never had intentional nor accidential QRM from a ham because he knew higher math or any of that other useless-to-the-hobby stuff on the tests I always get QRM from bad operators...or uninformed operators. Ham radio stopped being a truly high tech hobby a few years ago, but it is still a very fun and useful OPERATING hobby. I vote to concentrate on testing operating vs. technology. 73, Charly now again in HS land after putting in XW application in person in Lao. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DXR] FW: 20 meter DX window
I think if the DX fraternity tries to establish a DX window on 20 meters we are asking for trouble. Not everyone on the band is a DXer. This is the same thing at 14.260 where the IOTA gang hangs out. There are some misinformed Europeans who think the frequency belongs to IOTA island stations and everyone else should QSY. I think we are going to find the same with 14.195. Just my opinion. 73 de John N6JM Bruce Makas wrote: > > Below is a note that I sent to Wayne and his response. An e mail to him at > the league might help. > > Bruce > > -Original Message- > From: Mills, Wayne N7NG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:00 PM > To: 'Bruce Makas' > Subject: RE: 20 meter DX window > > Bruce: > > The 20 meter SSB "DX Window" at 14.195 is definitely well established. As > you probably know, this was a frequency used by DX back when the US subband > started at 14.200. It is interesting that several attempts to establish a > new DX window at 14.145 failed, primarily because of an established net on > that frequency(!) There is considerable momentum and history involved in > using the 14.195 frequency. I don't think the DX community will stand for > any significant net activity to be established on that frequency. > > The League has established bandplans for a variety of bands. These are > generally configured following a study involving input from the ham > community. I think it would be unwise for the League to unilaterally > designate 14.195 part of a bandplan without using a process which would > legitimize the results. I will bring it up at the MSC meeting in July, > however. > > Wayne > > -Original Message- > From: Bruce Makas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: 20 meter DX window > > Wayne, Is there any way that the league, thru QST, could "designate" 14.190 > thru 14.200 as a voluntary DX window and encourage operators not to > establish nets or schedules there. There is also a significant number of > domestic (sometimes local) QSO's there each day. By use of the QST media we > might be able to avoid some of the on the air arguements. > > Last week was a mess with the 3B6 on 14.195 and a 9Y4 net 1 kc below and > stateside QSO's sometimes right on top of the 3B6. Of course they can't hear > anything and they point out that there are no reserved frequencies. All of > this is correct but with a little help from the league we might be able to > help this deteriorating situation. > > thanks, Bruce K1MY > > Sunny Sun Lakes, Arizona > > > >Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news > To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ > This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DXR] FW: 20 meter DX window
Below is a note that I sent to Wayne and his response. An e mail to him at the league might help. Bruce -Original Message- From: Mills, Wayne N7NG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:00 PM To: 'Bruce Makas' Subject: RE: 20 meter DX window Bruce: The 20 meter SSB "DX Window" at 14.195 is definitely well established. As you probably know, this was a frequency used by DX back when the US subband started at 14.200. It is interesting that several attempts to establish a new DX window at 14.145 failed, primarily because of an established net on that frequency(!) There is considerable momentum and history involved in using the 14.195 frequency. I don't think the DX community will stand for any significant net activity to be established on that frequency. The League has established bandplans for a variety of bands. These are generally configured following a study involving input from the ham community. I think it would be unwise for the League to unilaterally designate 14.195 part of a bandplan without using a process which would legitimize the results. I will bring it up at the MSC meeting in July, however. Wayne -Original Message- From: Bruce Makas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 20 meter DX window Wayne, Is there any way that the league, thru QST, could "designate" 14.190 thru 14.200 as a voluntary DX window and encourage operators not to establish nets or schedules there. There is also a significant number of domestic (sometimes local) QSO's there each day. By use of the QST media we might be able to avoid some of the on the air arguements. Last week was a mess with the 3B6 on 14.195 and a 9Y4 net 1 kc below and stateside QSO's sometimes right on top of the 3B6. Of course they can't hear anything and they point out that there are no reserved frequencies. All of this is correct but with a little help from the league we might be able to help this deteriorating situation. thanks, Bruce K1MY Sunny Sun Lakes, Arizona Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org