[DXR] Take it or leave it.
Hi all With all the recent discussion on logging errors, I discovered this on one current operation's website. PLEASE NOTE: A number of stations have sent e-mails saying that their call is wrong 'by one letter' in the log, and could we change it. The short answer is no. Getting a good qso is your responsibility at the time you work VP8SDX. If your call, for whatever reason, does not get logged correctly, then you'll need to make another qso. This may sound harsh but it is also fair. Indeed, before DXpeditions were supported by on-line logs, you never got a second chance to get a good contact like you're getting now :-) That's their rules and if you wish to work them and get a QSL. Different DXpedtions have different rules and views. Consider this... If a DXpedtion works 100,000 contacts and there is a 0.1% logging or transcribing error rate(and I don't think that is unrealistic given tired operators, lack of sleep, lack of food, and raging pileups), the result is that around 100 guys in the DX community are not going to get the contact that they know for sure they made, confirmed. The point of all this is that it's not a perfect world. Nothing is going to change and if you make the perfect QSO for your all time new one, you may not get your all time new one because of someone else's mistake. And that's DXing! If you wish to flame me please reply to me directly. I simply put this up for discussion. 73 Lee ZL2AL - ZL7AA, ZL8RI, ZL9CI, VE3OE If you want finite limits - Try WAS or WAZ. If you want a challenge - Try DXCC. The wall starts around 300 P5 is number 334! Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DXR] Take it or leave it.
The VP8SDX website wrote: Consider this... If a DXpedtion works 100,000 contacts and there is a 0.1% logging or transcribing error rate(and I don't think that is unrealistic given tired operators, lack of sleep, lack of food, and raging pileups), the result is that around 100 guys in the DX community are not going to get the contact that they know for sure they made, confirmed. 0.1% would be REMARKABLE for this kind of DXpedition, which is really just a portable multi-multi operation. Contest multi-multi operations (the good ones) typically have error rates from 2-5% -- 2% is 200 QSOs out of 10,000. And the contest log checkers (humans and/or software) remove QSO credit from BOTH parties -- the one who logged the call incorrectly gets penalized for the QSO plus up to three additional contacts, while the other party usually only loses the QSO in question. In contest operations, we don't have the benefit of on-line logs to tell us whether a QSO is good or not, so we can go and try to get another one before the contest (read: DXpedition) is over. The DXpedition is under no obligation to QSL a QSO which they did not log correctly. I believe it's OH2BH who's taking the other extreme, if there is a log discrepancy, you must get confirmation from the station whose callsign was actually logged, that they did not work the DX, before the DX logbook is changed and you receive your QSL card. 73 - Jim AD1C = Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DXR] Take it or leave it.
Martti OH2BH had a great discussion of this item in the annual DXCC listing.a worthy read for DXers and DXpeditioners/QSL managers alike! Not sure if that article is on the ARRL web site, but maybe it should be??? 73 --- Steve Wheatley KU9C PO Box 5953 Parsippany NJ 07054-6953 (yes, the -6953 is correct!) U.S.A. Phone: 973.644.5111 Fax:973.644.5053 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
