[Dx-packages] [Bug 974480] Re: Notification area whitelist is obsolete
@rezzafri See comment #42 for a patch that already whitelists the systray. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/974480 Title: Notification area whitelist is obsolete Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Mark has asked us to consider retiring the notification area whitelist for 12.10. The application indicator system has been in place for two years now, which should be long enough for applications to adopt it. If the whitelist was retired, Java and Wine would be hard-coded as the only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know that Ubuntu even exists. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/974480/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 974480] Re: Notification area whitelist is obsolete
@mtp, I have reported the most important (for me) applications in question and nothing has happened. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/974480 Title: Notification area whitelist is obsolete Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Mark has asked us to consider retiring the notification area whitelist for 12.10. The application indicator system has been in place for two years now, which should be long enough for applications to adopt it. If the whitelist was retired, Java and Wine would be hard-coded as the only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know that Ubuntu even exists. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/974480/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 993317] Re: Titlebar for root GUI programs no longer identified as root
I have found the setting in Compiz Config Settings Manager (CCSM): Utility Title Bar Info Show Root For the solution, all that is needed is to have this option turned on by default. I don't know how this would affect other distributions such as Lubuntu and Xubuntu. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/993317 Title: Titlebar for root GUI programs no longer identified as root Status in Unity: Confirmed Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: In Natty, when opening a GUI as root (e.g. gksudo nautilus), the titlebar clearly identified the window as being a root window with the wording ROOT:. In Precise, this is no longer present. I think this was an important feature and should not be regressed. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: unity 5.10.0-0ubuntu6 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-24.37-generic 3.2.14 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-24-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu7 Architecture: amd64 CompizPlugins: [core,composite,opengl,decor,vpswitch,compiztoolbox,gnomecompat,mousepoll,place,session,imgpng,resize,regex,animation,text,resizeinfo,imgjpeg,imgsvg,move,workarounds,wall,unitymtgrabhandles,winrules,wobbly,fade,scale,expo,unityshell] Date: Wed May 2 15:33:00 2012 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin - Beta amd64 (20120301) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_GB:en PATH=(custom, user) LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: unity UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/993317/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 974480] Re: Notification area whitelist is obsolete
Thank you for your reply, Matthew. I have already contacted the most important of the apps in question, and while one of them was most helpful and has changed the package, the others have not even replied, such is their indifference. I had understood you to mean that I should raise a bug report on this bug tracker; perhaps that is indeed a better way to go. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/974480 Title: Notification area whitelist is obsolete Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Mark has asked us to consider retiring the notification area whitelist for 12.10. The application indicator system has been in place for two years now, which should be long enough for applications to adopt it. If the whitelist was retired, Java and Wine would be hard-coded as the only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know that Ubuntu even exists. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/974480/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 974480] Re: Notification area whitelist is obsolete
Matthew, thank you for posting that link. It would have been useful if I had had it when I previously requested third party developers to modify their programs. It is notable that two of those developers have not even bothered to reply to me; clearly, they don't care about Ubuntu (they obviously know about Ubuntu now that I have made the request). If I understand you correctly, you want us to open a new bug for each and every third-party app that does not adhere to the Canonical standard, i.e. do not work correctly in 13.04 and above? Please confirm or correct me. What about Java and Wine: have you attempted to negotiate with their developers? At the very least, they will become aware that Ubuntu exists, meaining that (according to the bug description) you can remove the whitelist altogether. I will be happy to contact them on your behalf if you are too busy. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/974480 Title: Notification area whitelist is obsolete Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Mark has asked us to consider retiring the notification area whitelist for 12.10. The application indicator system has been in place for two years now, which should be long enough for applications to adopt it. If the whitelist was retired, Java and Wine would be hard-coded as the only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know that Ubuntu even exists. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/974480/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 974480] Re: Notification area whitelist is obsolete
Matthew, the last line reads, … Java and Wine would be hard-coded as the only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know that Ubuntu even exists. You do realise that there are other developers who don't necessarily know that Ubuntu even exists, don't you? If that is the rationale for excluding Java and Wine, then why aren't you excluding all other applications where this is the case? This so-called bug-fix both contradicts itself and violates one of the first rules of programming — no hard-coding of parameters. As you can tell by the volume of complaints, new bugs and related comments, this is not a bug-fix but rather a bug-creator. If Canonical really has a good reason for this change (i.e. apart from digging in your heels), it would be good to let us know. Version 14.04 is nearly upon us, and there are still many applications, some of them international de facto standards, that have not been adapted and may not be in the reasonable future. It gives Ubuntu a bad reputation amongst users both new and old: Why doesn't this work in Ubuntu? It works in Windows! (and OS X and Red Hat and previous Ubuntu versions) — Because Ubuntu deliberately broke it! Don't ask me why; they won't tell us! As a promoter of Ubuntu, this actually embarrasses me at times. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/974480 Title: Notification area whitelist is obsolete Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Mark has asked us to consider retiring the notification area whitelist for 12.10. The application indicator system has been in place for two years now, which should be long enough for applications to adopt it. If the whitelist was retired, Java and Wine would be hard-coded as the only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know that Ubuntu even exists. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/974480/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 974480] Re: Notification area whitelist is obsolete
@bregama — … rather than commenting on a fixed and released bug… Fixed? How can you say fixed? This bug has broken packages, caused regressions, and fixed nothing whatsoever. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/974480 Title: Notification area whitelist is obsolete Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Mark has asked us to consider retiring the notification area whitelist for 12.10. The application indicator system has been in place for two years now, which should be long enough for applications to adopt it. If the whitelist was retired, Java and Wine would be hard-coded as the only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know that Ubuntu even exists. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/974480/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 968974] Re: Some free applications looks like paid applications with price 0.00 and with buy button
@overprescribed: … the software catalog … should be a bastion and showcase for apps that are free in both regards… Um… There is no should in this regard. Remember that the target user for Ubuntu (which includes myself) doesn't give a hoot about libre vs. licensed. We only care that the products are cheap and that they work without malware. If Ubuntu starts making a noise about libre vs. licensed, it will simply put off many LInux converts. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity-lens-applications in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/968974 Title: Some free applications looks like paid applications with price 0.00 and with buy button Status in One Hundred Papercuts: Triaged Status in Ubuntu Software Center: Confirmed Status in Unity Applications Lens: Confirmed Status in “software-center” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “unity-lens-applications” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Just watch an attachment screenshot. Pages of some free applications looks like as pages of paid applications, but with zero price. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: software-center 5.1.13.2 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-17.27-generic-pae 3.2.6 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-17-generic-pae i686 ApportVersion: 1.95-0ubuntu1 Architecture: i386 Date: Fri Mar 30 11:19:48 2012 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin - Beta i386 (20120301) PackageArchitecture: all ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=uk_UA.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: software-center UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/968974/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 974480] Re: Notification area whitelist is obsolete
Jason, thank you. We all appreciate your efforts. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/974480 Title: Notification area whitelist is obsolete Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Mark has asked us to consider retiring the notification area whitelist for 12.10. The application indicator system has been in place for two years now, which should be long enough for applications to adopt it. If the whitelist was retired, Java and Wine would be hard-coded as the only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know that Ubuntu even exists. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/974480/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 974480] Re: Notification area whitelist is obsolete
@Rainer, I suggest that you raise a new bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/974480 Title: Notification area whitelist is obsolete Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Mark has asked us to consider retiring the notification area whitelist for 12.10. The application indicator system has been in place for two years now, which should be long enough for applications to adopt it. If the whitelist was retired, Java and Wine would be hard-coded as the only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know that Ubuntu even exists. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/974480/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 974480] Re: Notification area whitelist is obsolete
Comment #84 : Sorry, Mark, I really thought that you no longer saw this thread. I take back comment #83. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/974480 Title: Notification area whitelist is obsolete Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Mark has asked us to consider retiring the notification area whitelist for 12.10. The application indicator system has been in place for two years now, which should be long enough for applications to adopt it. If the whitelist was retired, Java and Wine would be hard-coded as the only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know that Ubuntu even exists. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/974480/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 974480] Re: Notification area whitelist is obsolete
Jason, Mark Shuttleworth does not receive comments from this bug. Please add comments and your vote to the bugs listed in comment #81. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/974480 Title: Notification area whitelist is obsolete Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Mark has asked us to consider retiring the notification area whitelist for 12.10. The application indicator system has been in place for two years now, which should be long enough for applications to adopt it. If the whitelist was retired, Java and Wine would be hard-coded as the only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know that Ubuntu even exists. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/974480/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dx-packages] [Bug 974480] Re: Notification area whitelist is obsolete
#80: Please go to the following bugs and vote for each of them (click on the green writing near the top-right of each page). It may be worthwhile posting any relevant comments in those bugs, where applicable. Also, raise a new bug report for each of Pidgin, Workrave and the other apps. Bug #1119420 Bug #721431 Bug #761587 Bug #587272 Bug #1192020 There may be other relevant ones of which I am not aware. Please do *not* vote for this bug (bug #974480), because it would mean that you agree with removing the functionality! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of DX Packages, which is subscribed to unity in Ubuntu. Matching subscriptions: dx-packages https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/974480 Title: Notification area whitelist is obsolete Status in Ayatana Design: Fix Released Status in Unity: Fix Released Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Mark has asked us to consider retiring the notification area whitelist for 12.10. The application indicator system has been in place for two years now, which should be long enough for applications to adopt it. If the whitelist was retired, Java and Wine would be hard-coded as the only software still able to use the menu bar as if it was a notification area, because their developers don't necessarily know that Ubuntu even exists. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/974480/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages Post to : dx-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dx-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
