Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV 


> You can use your US certificate to apply for a Canadian one (which
> will be issued in less than a day in most cases), then you can create
> locations anywhere in Canada where you've operated.

And if you happen to sign W1ABC/R (for "Rover") or W9ZYX/0 and want to
use that with LotW you simply use your US certificate to apply for
another with the "self-assigned modifier".  Again, the additional
certificate will generally be issued in one business day (or less).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/10/2012 9:52 PM, Rick Murphy wrote:

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:45 PM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:

In 2012 alone, I operated portable from 29 different locations (Grid Squares)
  in the US & Canada. It would be easy to get signed up for LOTW for each
and every one of these? Maybe I underestimate the process?


Yes, it's trivial. Once you have a US certificate, you just create
locations for each US-based grid square you operate from. No sign-up
required.
You can use your US certificate to apply for a Canadian one (which
will be issued in less than a day in most cases), then you can create
locations anywhere in Canada where you've operated.

Once you've gotten through the initial sign-up hurdle, additional
locations/entities/etc. are pretty easy. (It's only the rare ones
where this is a problem. Applying for a SV/A certificate will likely
be held up until you can present a license.)
73,
 -Rick


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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Rick Murphy 
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:45 PM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:
> In 2012 alone, I operated portable from 29 different locations (Grid Squares)
>  in the US & Canada. It would be easy to get signed up for LOTW for each
> and every one of these? Maybe I underestimate the process?

Yes, it's trivial. Once you have a US certificate, you just create
locations for each US-based grid square you operate from. No sign-up
required.
You can use your US certificate to apply for a Canadian one (which
will be issued in less than a day in most cases), then you can create
locations anywhere in Canada where you've operated.

Once you've gotten through the initial sign-up hurdle, additional
locations/entities/etc. are pretty easy. (It's only the rare ones
where this is a problem. Applying for a SV/A certificate will likely
be held up until you can present a license.)
73,
-Rick
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread R.T.Liddy 
In 2012 alone, I operated portable from 29 different locations (Grid Squares)
 in the US & Canada. It would be easy to get signed up for LOTW for each
and every one of these? Maybe I underestimate the process?
 
Bob K8BL

--- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:


From: Art - W6KY 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
To: "Joe Subich, W4TV" , dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 9:21 PM



Agreed. Signing up for multiple portable operations is no big deal.

But, each non-USA station must send a copy of his/her operating
license plus a copy of a government issued ID such as drivers
license, passport to this place in Newington. If I asked my local
commissar in Blockavia if I should do this, he would probably
have me locked up for being so stupid... I am certainly not going
to send copies of my drivers license / passport to a foreign
country, thru the 'mail' to get an award with the certainty my 
ID will be stolen...  So,I don't think it's lazy, just common sense...
It's bad enough sending Green Stamps that never arrive...

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" 
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 5:19:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...


> and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.

There is absolutely no issue of singing a portable operation once you
have the initial certificate.  It takes less than one business day
unless the operation is from a location that has specific access and
licensing requirements.  Even then, it's no more difficult than sending
the same documentation to ARRL that would be needed to be accepted for
DXCC (typically copy of license and landing permit).

Anyone who complains about the sign-up process is too lazy to send
copies of license and ID (equivalent to ham ticket and drivers
license) with a valid mailing address and wait for the password to
be mailed to the address on the ID.

In many cases the process can be short circuited by providing the
documentation in person at one of the many international conventions
ARRL/DXCC/LotW staff attend on a regular basis.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/10/2012 7:54 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote:
> There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot
> simpler, especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should
> be able to be done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on
> QRZ.com making comments about the complexity of LOTW
> and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.
>
> Bob K8BL
>
> --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:
>
>
> From: Art - W6KY 
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
> To: "N3SL" , DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM
>
>
> Note:  All award submissions are fast because
> dollars are includedSimple... My DX
> Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow
> anything with money attached spits out first!!
> Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your
> LOTW submission!
>
> LOTW is still better than surface mail unless
> the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up
> procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia
> waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up!
>
> 73, Art  W6KY
> www.w6ky.com
>
> .
> Male deer have buck teeth.
>
> 
> From: N3SL 
> To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
>
> Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
> uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.
>
> But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
> my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.
>
> So some parts are working well
>
>
> *Steve, N3SL*
> Sioux City, IA
> CQ4 ITU7 EN12
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
>
>>
>>> Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>>
>> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
>> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
>> numbers I have:
>>
>> Upload Time           Time Processed      Elapsed Time
>> ==**=
>> 2012/11/23  18:00    2012/11/27  00:43    3  06:43:34
>> 2012/11/28  22:32    2012/12/05  02:08    6  03:35:10
>> 2012/11/29  18:38    2012/12/06  05:10    6  10:32:20
>> 2012/11/30  00:58    2012/12/06  18:24    6  17:26:26
>> 2012/11/30  17:04    2012/12/07  17:28    7  00:24:16
>> 2012/12/01  08:20    2012/12/08  19:09    7  10:49:15
>> 2012/12/01  12:30    2012/12/09  01:10    7  12:40:49
>> 2012/12/02  05:00    2012/12/10  19:31    8  14:31:29
>>
>> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
>> there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
>> and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
>> minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the

Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload - Filenames

2012-12-10 Thread Rick Murphy 
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:37 PM, R.T.Liddy  wrote:
>
> It's a pretty common way of doing it and I'm sure a lot of folks probably
> used a similar system. But, then I read that one of the bugs at the
> ARRL LOTW computer was that if a Log Submission came in with the
> same name as an earlier one that hadn't been processed yet, the new
> one would replace the earlier one in queue. So, if my L120112 came in
> before John Doe's L120112 file, mine would be deleted from being entered
> into LOTW and I wouldn't know it unless I was closely tracking everything.
> I might never know if a lot of Q's were missing.
>
> Now, I use a file-naming convention that would be highly unlikely used by
> anyone else. It's possible, but highly unlikely.

You're misunderstanding the LoTW bug. It doesn't matter what you
called your files.

The LoTW developers realized that people could have duplicate file
names, so they devised a scheme that renamed user files to a form
"msg-x-x.tq8" where the "x" characters were numbers. The number
was derived from the UNIX process ID, leaving a range of 65,535
different values for the file name. As long as the queue of files
waiting processing didn't get very long, all was well. However, once
things started to take multiple days to process (even more than a
couple of hours, actually) the chance of a collision goes up. There
wasn't anything you could do to avoid the bug, nor anything you could
do to make it worse (other than perhaps submitting a log when there
was a big backlog,)

I've had at least one log lost due to this bug back before it was
discovered. Luckily, I keep track of before/after counts so I'm pretty
sure nothing else was lost.
73,
-Rick
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Art - W6KY 

Agreed. Signing up for multiple portable operations is no big deal.

But, each non-USA station must send a copy of his/her operating
license plus a copy of a government issued ID such as drivers
license, passport to this place in Newington. If I asked my local
commissar in Blockavia if I should do this, he would probably
have me locked up for being so stupid... I am certainly not going
to send copies of my drivers license / passport to a foreign
country, thru the 'mail' to get an award with the certainty my 
ID will be stolen...  So,I don't think it's lazy, just common sense...
It's bad enough sending Green Stamps that never arrive...

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" 
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 5:19:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...


> and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.

There is absolutely no issue of singing a portable operation once you
have the initial certificate.  It takes less than one business day
unless the operation is from a location that has specific access and
licensing requirements.  Even then, it's no more difficult than sending
the same documentation to ARRL that would be needed to be accepted for
DXCC (typically copy of license and landing permit).

Anyone who complains about the sign-up process is too lazy to send
copies of license and ID (equivalent to ham ticket and drivers
license) with a valid mailing address and wait for the password to
be mailed to the address on the ID.

In many cases the process can be short circuited by providing the
documentation in person at one of the many international conventions
ARRL/DXCC/LotW staff attend on a regular basis.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 12/10/2012 7:54 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote:
> There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot
> simpler, especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should
> be able to be done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on
> QRZ.com making comments about the complexity of LOTW
> and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.
>
> Bob K8BL
>
> --- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:
>
>
> From: Art - W6KY 
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
> To: "N3SL" , DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM
>
>
> Note:  All award submissions are fast because
> dollars are includedSimple... My DX
> Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow
> anything with money attached spits out first!!
> Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your
> LOTW submission!
>
> LOTW is still better than surface mail unless
> the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up
> procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia
> waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up!
>
> 73, Art  W6KY
> www.w6ky.com
>
> .
> Male deer have buck teeth.
>
> 
> From: N3SL 
> To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
>
> Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
> uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.
>
> But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
> my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.
>
> So some parts are working well
>
>
> *Steve, N3SL*
> Sioux City, IA
> CQ4 ITU7 EN12
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
>
>>
>>> Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>>
>> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
>> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
>> numbers I have:
>>
>> Upload Time   Time Processed  Elapsed Time
>> ==**=
>> 2012/11/23  18:002012/11/27  00:433  06:43:34
>> 2012/11/28  22:322012/12/05  02:086  03:35:10
>> 2012/11/29  18:382012/12/06  05:106  10:32:20
>> 2012/11/30  00:582012/12/06  18:246  17:26:26
>> 2012/11/30  17:042012/12/07  17:287  00:24:16
>> 2012/12/01  08:202012/12/08  19:097  10:49:15
>> 2012/12/01  12:302012/12/09  01:107  12:40:49
>> 2012/12/02  05:002012/12/10  19:318  14:31:29
>>
>> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
>> there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
>> and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
>> minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
>> on the home page.
>>
>> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
>> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
>> be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
>> rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
>> for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
>> million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
>> was 48

Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Dave Perry, N4QS 
I used Lotw for my operation in Belize.  It was very easy to sign up.  I
simply scanned a copy of my license from Belize and emailed it to the DXCC
desk at the ARRL.  Everything was approved before I left.  It couldn't have
been much easier.  I plan to do the same thing when I go to Grand Cayman
this coming February.

Dave, N4QS

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of R.T.Liddy
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 6:54 PM
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot simpler,
especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should be able to be done
on-line. I've seen a number of stations on QRZ.com making comments about the
complexity of LOTW and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable
operations.
 
Bob K8BL

--- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:


From: Art - W6KY 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
To: "N3SL" , DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM


Note:  All award submissions are fast because dollars are
includedSimple... My DX Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow
anything with money attached spits out first!!
Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your LOTW submission!

LOTW is still better than surface mail unless the DX isn't on LOTW due to
the insane sign up procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia waiting
for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up!

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

.
Male deer have buck teeth.


From: N3SL 
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log uploaded
on 12/1 has yet to be processed.

But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.

So some parts are working well


*Steve, N3SL*
Sioux City, IA
CQ4 ITU7 EN12



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> > Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>
> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the delay 
> will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest numbers I have:
>
> Upload Time           Time Processed      Elapsed Time 
> ==**=
> 2012/11/23  18:00    2012/11/27  00:43    3  06:43:34
> 2012/11/28  22:32    2012/12/05  02:08    6  03:35:10
> 2012/11/29  18:38    2012/12/06  05:10    6  10:32:20
> 2012/11/30  00:58    2012/12/06  18:24    6  17:26:26
> 2012/11/30  17:04    2012/12/07  17:28    7  00:24:16
> 2012/12/01  08:20    2012/12/08  19:09    7  10:49:15
> 2012/12/01  12:30    2012/12/09  01:10    7  12:40:49
> 2012/12/02  05:00    2012/12/10  19:31    8  14:31:29
>
> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2 there 
> were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed and LotW has 
> been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per minute or about 
> 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information on the home page.
>
> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to be 
> processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current rate of 
> growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time for files 
> uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25 million unprocessed 
> QSOs in the queue at that time - and that was 48 hours *after* the 
> deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
> With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could hold 
> as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is unlikely)!
>
> I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their 
> performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* - 
> particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on the 
> size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:
>
>> Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick
>>
> Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just 
> a few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up 
> with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...
>
>>
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV 


> and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.

There is absolutely no issue of singing a portable operation once you
have the initial certificate.  It takes less than one business day
unless the operation is from a location that has specific access and
licensing requirements.  Even then, it's no more difficult than sending
the same documentation to ARRL that would be needed to be accepted for
DXCC (typically copy of license and landing permit).

Anyone who complains about the sign-up process is too lazy to send
copies of license and ID (equivalent to ham ticket and drivers
license) with a valid mailing address and wait for the password to
be mailed to the address on the ID.

In many cases the process can be short circuited by providing the
documentation in person at one of the many international conventions
ARRL/DXCC/LotW staff attend on a regular basis.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/10/2012 7:54 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote:

There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot
simpler, especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should
be able to be done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on
QRZ.com making comments about the complexity of LOTW
and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.

Bob K8BL

--- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:


From: Art - W6KY 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
To: "N3SL" , DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM


Note:  All award submissions are fast because
dollars are includedSimple... My DX
Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow
anything with money attached spits out first!!
Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your
LOTW submission!

LOTW is still better than surface mail unless
the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up
procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia
waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up!

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

.
Male deer have buck teeth.


From: N3SL 
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.

But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.

So some parts are working well


*Steve, N3SL*
Sioux City, IA
CQ4 ITU7 EN12



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:




Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.


Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
numbers I have:

Upload Time   Time Processed  Elapsed Time
==**=
2012/11/23  18:002012/11/27  00:433  06:43:34
2012/11/28  22:322012/12/05  02:086  03:35:10
2012/11/29  18:382012/12/06  05:106  10:32:20
2012/11/30  00:582012/12/06  18:246  17:26:26
2012/11/30  17:042012/12/07  17:287  00:24:16
2012/12/01  08:202012/12/08  19:097  10:49:15
2012/12/01  12:302012/12/09  01:107  12:40:49
2012/12/02  05:002012/12/10  19:318  14:31:29

The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
on the home page.

If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
unlikely)!

I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.

73,

 ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:


Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick


Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...



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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread R.T.Liddy 
There needs to be a way for getting on LOTW to be made a lot
simpler, especially for remote DX. The entire procedure should
be able to be done on-line. I've seen a number of stations on
QRZ.com making comments about the complexity of LOTW
and the difficulty of signing up their multiple portable operations.
 
Bob K8BL

--- On Mon, 12/10/12, Art - W6KY  wrote:


From: Art - W6KY 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
To: "N3SL" , DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 7:35 PM


Note:  All award submissions are fast because
dollars are includedSimple... My DX
Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow
anything with money attached spits out first!!
Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your
LOTW submission!

LOTW is still better than surface mail unless
the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up
procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia
waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up!

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

.
Male deer have buck teeth.


From: N3SL 
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.

But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.

So some parts are working well


*Steve, N3SL*
Sioux City, IA
CQ4 ITU7 EN12



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> > Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>
> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
> numbers I have:
>
> Upload Time           Time Processed      Elapsed Time
> ==**=
> 2012/11/23  18:00    2012/11/27  00:43    3  06:43:34
> 2012/11/28  22:32    2012/12/05  02:08    6  03:35:10
> 2012/11/29  18:38    2012/12/06  05:10    6  10:32:20
> 2012/11/30  00:58    2012/12/06  18:24    6  17:26:26
> 2012/11/30  17:04    2012/12/07  17:28    7  00:24:16
> 2012/12/01  08:20    2012/12/08  19:09    7  10:49:15
> 2012/12/01  12:30    2012/12/09  01:10    7  12:40:49
> 2012/12/02  05:00    2012/12/10  19:31    8  14:31:29
>
> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
> there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
> and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
> minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
> on the home page.
>
> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
> be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
> rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
> for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
> million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
> was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
> With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
> hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
> unlikely)!
>
> I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
> performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
> particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
> the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:
>
>> Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick
>>
> Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
> few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
> with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...
>
>>
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Art - W6KY 
Note:  All award submissions are fast because
dollars are includedSimple... My DX
Challenge was approved in hours! Somehow
anything with money attached spits out first!!
Maybe, try attaching a Green Stamp to your
LOTW submission!

LOTW is still better than surface mail unless
the DX isn't on LOTW due to the insane sign up
procedure..Try sitting in your Yurt in Mongolia
waiting for your 'postcard' from LOTW to show up!

73, Art  W6KY
www.w6ky.com

 .
Male deer have buck teeth.


From: N3SL 
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, December 10, 2012 1:47:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.

But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.

So some parts are working well


*Steve, N3SL*
Sioux City, IA
CQ4 ITU7 EN12



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> > Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>
> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
> numbers I have:
>
> Upload Time   Time Processed  Elapsed Time
> ==**=
> 2012/11/23  18:002012/11/27  00:433  06:43:34
> 2012/11/28  22:322012/12/05  02:086  03:35:10
> 2012/11/29  18:382012/12/06  05:106  10:32:20
> 2012/11/30  00:582012/12/06  18:246  17:26:26
> 2012/11/30  17:042012/12/07  17:287  00:24:16
> 2012/12/01  08:202012/12/08  19:097  10:49:15
> 2012/12/01  12:302012/12/09  01:107  12:40:49
> 2012/12/02  05:002012/12/10  19:318  14:31:29
>
> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
> there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
> and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
> minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
> on the home page.
>
> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
> be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
> rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
> for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
> million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
> was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
> With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
> hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
> unlikely)!
>
> I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
> performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
> particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
> the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:
>
>> Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick
>>
> Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
> few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
> with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...
>
>>
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Re: [Dx4win] FW: ARRL Logbook of the World Log Processing is About7Days Behind

2012-12-10 Thread John Shaw 
Bugger, sorry meant for another group.  By the way thanks for that Jim.

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Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:41
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Subject: [Dx4win] FW: ARRL Logbook of the World Log Processing is About7Days
Behind

With the current state of affairs I thought some might find this helpful.

 

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On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:18
To: DX4WIN Reflector
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] ARRL Logbook of the World Log Processing is About
7Days Behind

You can see the processing status here:

http://www.arrl.org/logbook-queue-status

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[Dx4win] FW: ARRL Logbook of the World Log Processing is About 7Days Behind

2012-12-10 Thread John Shaw 
With the current state of affairs I thought some might find this helpful.

 

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On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:18
To: DX4WIN Reflector
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] ARRL Logbook of the World Log Processing is About
7Days Behind

You can see the processing status here:

http://www.arrl.org/logbook-queue-status

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Re: [Dx4win] ARRL Logbook of the World Log Processing is About 7 Days Behind

2012-12-10 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C 
You can see the processing status here:

http://www.arrl.org/logbook-queue-status

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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Ken G Kopp 
Hi Ed!

Probably because a -very- high percentage of
DX4WIN users use LOTW and have a high
level of interest in LOTW 

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Ed Stratton  wrote:
> Why is LOTW backlog a thread on DX4WIN?  Isn't there a LOTW discussion 
> board...
>
>
> 73's
> Ed , W1ZZ
> w...@ymail.com
>
>
>
> 
>  From: N3SL 
> To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
>
> Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
> uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.
>
> But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
> my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.
>
> So some parts are working well
>
>
> *Steve, N3SL*
> Sioux City, IA
> CQ4 ITU7 EN12
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
>
>>
>> > Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>>
>> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
>> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
>> numbers I have:
>>
>> Upload Time   Time Processed  Elapsed Time
>> ==**=
>> 2012/11/23  18:002012/11/27  00:433  06:43:34
>> 2012/11/28  22:322012/12/05  02:086  03:35:10
>> 2012/11/29  18:382012/12/06  05:106  10:32:20
>> 2012/11/30  00:582012/12/06  18:246  17:26:26
>> 2012/11/30  17:042012/12/07  17:287  00:24:16
>> 2012/12/01  08:202012/12/08  19:097  10:49:15
>> 2012/12/01  12:302012/12/09  01:107  12:40:49
>> 2012/12/02  05:002012/12/10  19:318  14:31:29
>>
>> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
>> there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
>> and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
>> minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
>> on the home page.
>>
>> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
>> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
>> be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
>> rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
>> for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
>> million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
>> was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
>> With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
>> hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
>> unlikely)!
>>
>> I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
>> performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
>> particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
>> the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:
>>
>>> Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick
>>>
>> Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
>> few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
>> with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...
>>
>>>
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Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload - Filenames

2012-12-10 Thread R.T.Liddy 
I used to use a file-naming convention similar to yours, Ed. I'd use 
"L" for LOTW and the upload date such as "MMDDYY". For today
it would be L121012.
 
It's a pretty common way of doing it and I'm sure a lot of folks probably
used a similar system. But, then I read that one of the bugs at the
ARRL LOTW computer was that if a Log Submission came in with the
same name as an earlier one that hadn't been processed yet, the new
one would replace the earlier one in queue. So, if my L120112 came in
before John Doe's L120112 file, mine would be deleted from being entered
into LOTW and I wouldn't know it unless I was closely tracking everything.
I might never know if a lot of Q's were missing.
 
Now, I use a file-naming convention that would be highly unlikely used by
anyone else. It's possible, but highly unlikely.
 
The ARRL has fixed this bug and all files are now supposedly loaded into LOTW
whether they have duplicate names or not. But, I have to wonder about ones
I loaded in the past. Did any get deleted due to being duplicated by name
with someone else's newer ones? I still have all my .TQ8 files and I could
just re-upload them to LOTW. But, that would just add to the massive delays
that the LOTW system has been experiencing. So, I won't do it now.
 
I routinely compare all my credits for DXCC with what I have in DX4WIN to make
sure they match. But, it gets very tedious for other Awards and impossibly
tedious for WPX.
 
Maybe I'll just do a spot-check to see if any problems show up. Makes you
wonder how long the duplicate filename problem existed before anyone finally
realized it and the LOTW Software Gurus corrected it.
 
GL/73/MX&HNY,  Bob K8BL
 

From: Ed Hughes 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, December 10, 2012, 11:02 AM



The following works for me in determining the interval LOTW takes to process 
my uploads.
I name my uploads based on the date ie LOTW12102012. Then I note the 
calender for
that date & then I just wait for a later date to show under "find call" in 
LOTW, this gives me
the interval for that upload.

Ed KG4W

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Violette" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload


> It shows an upload date which corresponds to when it is processed not 
> first
> uploaded despite the wording.  I verified this with my last upload actual
> date/time versus when new QSL matches hit..  Dan KI6X
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Jesse Wall
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:57 AM
> To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload
>
>
> Hugh,
> After you do an upload, go to Find Call and search your call? This option
> says it is the callsign's last upload. I haven't tested this myself. I'm
> waiting until the backlog clears before I do an upload again.
>
> 73 and Merry Christmas to all,
> Jesse, KA8YYZ
> --- dx4win-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
>
> From: dx4win-requ...@mailman.qth.net
> To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: DX4WIN Digest, Vol 104, Issue 11
> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 12:00:02 -0500
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 10:25:58 +0100
> From: "ON4AOI" 
> To: "'Hugh Phillips K7XM'" 
> Cc: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW file upload
> Message-ID: <002401cdd526$084d4e50$18e7eaf0$@be>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hugh
> It only shows up when you have uploaded those files.
> No trace afterwards, if b4 28/11/2012 you probably need to upload Again 
> due
> the BUG they fixed late evening on 28 November
>
>
> Guy ON4AOI
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
> Namens Hugh Phillips K7XM
> Verzonden: zaterdag 8 december 2012 1:56
> Aan: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Onderwerp: [Dx4win] LoTW file upload
>
> I have uploaded two TQ8 files to LoTW recently.
> Shouldn't those show up somewhere even though they have not been processed
> by LoTW ?
> I can't seem to find them, unless I'm not looking in the right place
> Using Dx4Win v8.05...
>
> 73
> Hugh
> K7XM
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:44:57 -0500
> From: "David Kozinn, K2DBK" 
> To: Jim Reisert AD1C 
> Cc: DX4WIN Reflector 
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] How to find what new countries I worked
> Message-ID: <50c36e89.7040...@arrl.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Well for me, the clublog feature was exactly what I wanted in this case, 
> but
> I can see where there might be other variations as well. None of the
> examples that I can think of (including the one I started this thread
> with) are "must have" things, but rather fall into the category of
> "interesting things you can find out".
>
> On 12/7/2012 8:08 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2

Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Ed Stratton 
Why is LOTW backlog a thread on DX4WIN?  Isn't there a LOTW discussion board...

 
73's
Ed , W1ZZ
w...@ymail.com




 From: N3SL 
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...
 
Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.

But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.

So some parts are working well


*Steve, N3SL*
Sioux City, IA
CQ4 ITU7 EN12



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> > Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>
> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
> numbers I have:
>
> Upload Time           Time Processed      Elapsed Time
> ==**=
> 2012/11/23  18:00    2012/11/27  00:43    3  06:43:34
> 2012/11/28  22:32    2012/12/05  02:08    6  03:35:10
> 2012/11/29  18:38    2012/12/06  05:10    6  10:32:20
> 2012/11/30  00:58    2012/12/06  18:24    6  17:26:26
> 2012/11/30  17:04    2012/12/07  17:28    7  00:24:16
> 2012/12/01  08:20    2012/12/08  19:09    7  10:49:15
> 2012/12/01  12:30    2012/12/09  01:10    7  12:40:49
> 2012/12/02  05:00    2012/12/10  19:31    8  14:31:29
>
> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
> there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
> and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
> minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
> on the home page.
>
> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
> be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
> rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
> for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
> million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
> was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
> With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
> hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
> unlikely)!
>
> I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
> performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
> particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
> the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:
>
>> Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick
>>
> Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
> few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
> with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...
>
>>
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread N3SL 
Not sure how "current" their delay announcements are, as a CQWW log
uploaded on 12/1 has yet to be processed.

But on the other hand, DXCC submissions via LoTW are super-fast.  Submitted
my "annual" update last evening at 8:40 and had all accredited at 9:49.

So some parts are working well


 *Steve, N3SL*
Sioux City, IA
CQ4 ITU7 EN12



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> > Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.
>
> Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
> delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
> numbers I have:
>
> Upload Time   Time Processed  Elapsed Time
> ==**=
> 2012/11/23  18:002012/11/27  00:433  06:43:34
> 2012/11/28  22:322012/12/05  02:086  03:35:10
> 2012/11/29  18:382012/12/06  05:106  10:32:20
> 2012/11/30  00:582012/12/06  18:246  17:26:26
> 2012/11/30  17:042012/12/07  17:287  00:24:16
> 2012/12/01  08:202012/12/08  19:097  10:49:15
> 2012/12/01  12:302012/12/09  01:107  12:40:49
> 2012/12/02  05:002012/12/10  19:318  14:31:29
>
> The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
> there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
> and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
> minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
> on the home page.
>
> If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
> The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
> be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
> rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
> for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
> million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
> was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
> With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
> hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
> unlikely)!
>
> I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
> performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
> particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
> the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:
>
>> Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick
>>
> Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
> few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
> with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...
>
>>
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Re: [Dx4win] LotW Backlog continues to grow ...

2012-12-10 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV 


> Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a few minutes ago.

Agreed - 8 days 14 hours!  At the current rate of growth the
delay will be 9 days before tomorrow.  Here are the latest
numbers I have:

Upload Time   Time Processed  Elapsed Time
===
2012/11/23  18:002012/11/27  00:433  06:43:34
2012/11/28  22:322012/12/05  02:086  03:35:10
2012/11/29  18:382012/12/06  05:106  10:32:20
2012/11/30  00:582012/12/06  18:246  17:26:26
2012/11/30  17:042012/12/07  17:287  00:24:16
2012/12/01  08:202012/12/08  19:097  10:49:15
2012/12/01  12:302012/12/09  01:107  12:40:49
2012/12/02  05:002012/12/10  19:318  14:31:29

The delay is growing out of control - between 12/1 and 112/2
there were 2.5 times as many QSOs uploaded as LotW processed
and LotW has been processing an *average* of 11,000 QSOs per
minute or about 264,000 QSOs per day based on the information
on the home page.

If one plots a trend line, the delay is growing exponentially.
The trend indicates a file uploaded *today* is not likely to
be processed *for more than five weeks* based on the current
rate of growth in the backlog.  Based on the processing time
for files uploaded at 0500z on 12/2, there were about 2.25
million unprocessed QSOs in the queue at that time - and that
was 48 hours *after* the deadline for submitting CQWW CW logs.
With the trend in growth between 11/25 and 12/2, the queue could
hold as many *10 million* unprocessed QSOs (although that is
unlikely)!

I know the folks in Newington are saying "trust us," but their
performance - and complete failure to provide *current data* -
particularly the failure to provide accurate current status on
the size of the processing queue - makes trust very difficult.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/10/2012 12:14 PM, Jim wrote:

Agree with others. ARRL need to fix this thing and fix it quick

Unbelievable processing times. Delay keeps growing. Up to 8 days just a
few minutes ago. Love the program/system but unless they can come up
with a way to handle the load, then it will die on the vine...



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Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload

2012-12-10 Thread Ed Hughes 
According to the "find call" button on LOTW they processed my latest upload 
today 12/10/12 at 12:07pm.
I uploaded on 12/02/12 at 9:43am, so it was in the ballpark of the 
advertised 7 days.


Ed
KG4W

- Original Message - 
From: "Ed Hughes" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload


The following works for me in determining the interval LOTW takes to 
process my uploads.
I name my uploads based on the date ie LOTW12102012. Then I note the 
calender for
that date & then I just wait for a later date to show under "find call" in 
LOTW, this gives me

the interval for that upload.

Ed KG4W

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Violette" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload


It shows an upload date which corresponds to when it is processed not 
first

uploaded despite the wording.  I verified this with my last upload actual
date/time versus when new QSL matches hit..  Dan KI6X

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]

On Behalf Of Jesse Wall
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:57 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload


Hugh,
After you do an upload, go to Find Call and search your call? This option
says it is the callsign's last upload. I haven't tested this myself. I'm
waiting until the backlog clears before I do an upload again.

73 and Merry Christmas to all,
Jesse, KA8YYZ
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Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 10:25:58 +0100
From: "ON4AOI" 
To: "'Hugh Phillips K7XM'" 
Cc: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW file upload
Message-ID: <002401cdd526$084d4e50$18e7eaf0$@be>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hugh
It only shows up when you have uploaded those files.
No trace afterwards, if b4 28/11/2012 you probably need to upload Again 
due

the BUG they fixed late evening on 28 November


Guy ON4AOI

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[mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]

Namens Hugh Phillips K7XM
Verzonden: zaterdag 8 december 2012 1:56
Aan: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Onderwerp: [Dx4win] LoTW file upload

I have uploaded two TQ8 files to LoTW recently.
Shouldn't those show up somewhere even though they have not been 
processed

by LoTW ?
I can't seem to find them, unless I'm not looking in the right place
Using Dx4Win v8.05...

73
Hugh
K7XM

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:44:57 -0500
From: "David Kozinn, K2DBK" 
To: Jim Reisert AD1C 
Cc: DX4WIN Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] How to find what new countries I worked
Message-ID: <50c36e89.7040...@arrl.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Well for me, the clublog feature was exactly what I wanted in this case, 
but

I can see where there might be other variations as well. None of the
examples that I can think of (including the one I started this thread
with) are "must have" things, but rather fall into the category of
"interesting things you can find out".

On 12/7/2012 8:08 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 8:10 PM, David Kozinn, K2DBK 

wrote:



Actually, that is  the perfect solution, and one I'd forgotten about.
(I've been a member of Club Log for a long, long time.) That actually
gives me the exact information that I was looking for. Thanks for

mentioning it.

This works for all-time new ones, but not, for example, if I want to
see if I worked any new countries during CQWW CW for the CQ DX
Marathon in 2012. A while back, I wrote a quick-and-dirty program to
display the first time a new country was worked, given an ADIF file as
input.  It was never meant for release, but I could add filtering to
it.  That way you could export whatever portion of your log you cared
about (to ADIF) and run the report against

Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload

2012-12-10 Thread Ed Hughes 
The following works for me in determining the interval LOTW takes to process 
my uploads.
I name my uploads based on the date ie LOTW12102012. Then I note the 
calender for
that date & then I just wait for a later date to show under "find call" in 
LOTW, this gives me

the interval for that upload.

Ed KG4W

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Violette" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload


It shows an upload date which corresponds to when it is processed not 
first

uploaded despite the wording.  I verified this with my last upload actual
date/time versus when new QSL matches hit..  Dan KI6X

-Original Message-
From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]

On Behalf Of Jesse Wall
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:57 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Dx4win] LoTW Upload


Hugh,
After you do an upload, go to Find Call and search your call? This option
says it is the callsign's last upload. I haven't tested this myself. I'm
waiting until the backlog clears before I do an upload again.

73 and Merry Christmas to all,
Jesse, KA8YYZ
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Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 10:25:58 +0100
From: "ON4AOI" 
To: "'Hugh Phillips K7XM'" 
Cc: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LoTW file upload
Message-ID: <002401cdd526$084d4e50$18e7eaf0$@be>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hugh
It only shows up when you have uploaded those files.
No trace afterwards, if b4 28/11/2012 you probably need to upload Again 
due

the BUG they fixed late evening on 28 November


Guy ON4AOI

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net]

Namens Hugh Phillips K7XM
Verzonden: zaterdag 8 december 2012 1:56
Aan: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
Onderwerp: [Dx4win] LoTW file upload

I have uploaded two TQ8 files to LoTW recently.
Shouldn't those show up somewhere even though they have not been processed
by LoTW ?
I can't seem to find them, unless I'm not looking in the right place
Using Dx4Win v8.05...

73
Hugh
K7XM

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 11:44:57 -0500
From: "David Kozinn, K2DBK" 
To: Jim Reisert AD1C 
Cc: DX4WIN Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] How to find what new countries I worked
Message-ID: <50c36e89.7040...@arrl.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Well for me, the clublog feature was exactly what I wanted in this case, 
but

I can see where there might be other variations as well. None of the
examples that I can think of (including the one I started this thread
with) are "must have" things, but rather fall into the category of
"interesting things you can find out".

On 12/7/2012 8:08 PM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 8:10 PM, David Kozinn, K2DBK 

wrote:



Actually, that is  the perfect solution, and one I'd forgotten about.
(I've been a member of Club Log for a long, long time.) That actually
gives me the exact information that I was looking for. Thanks for

mentioning it.

This works for all-time new ones, but not, for example, if I want to
see if I worked any new countries during CQWW CW for the CQ DX
Marathon in 2012. A while back, I wrote a quick-and-dirty program to
display the first time a new country was worked, given an ADIF file as
input.  It was never meant for release, but I could add filtering to
it.  That way you could export whatever portion of your log you cared
about (to ADIF) and run the report against that.

But it would be better if Paul could build this into the program.  If
I recall, KD7P/N7XR's logging program (whose name escapes me at the
moment) was able to do this, back in the mid-1990's!

- Jim

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[Dx4win] DX4WIN.CTY country file Release #118 - 10 December 2012

2012-12-10 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C 

The DX4WIN country file, DX4WIN.CTY Release #118 is now available from:

http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/

You can read the release notes at:

http://www.country-files.com/dx4win/release.shtml

You can (and should) use the DX4WIN Data Updater to update the file:

http://dx4win.ad1c.us/updater/

This should resolve all the VP2 prefix errors that I created the last 
time.  I also found/fixed some old KV4 callsigns.  If you still find 
errors, please let me know ASAP.


73 - Jim AD1C

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Re: [Dx4win] ADIF Export including "QSL Status verified"

2012-12-10 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C 
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Thomas Herrmann  wrote:

> Reports/DXCC/Listing containes "QSL Status verified by ARRL-DXCC" as an 
> asterix "*" beside QSL Status Label(L), Mailed(M), Confirmed"C".
> But "QSL Status verified by ARRL-DXCC (checked)" is not included in ADIF 
> Export file.
>
> Anyone has modified the DX4Win ADIF Export Filter with "QSL Status verified 
> by ARRL-DXCC" yet and would share the filter with others, please ?

Thomas, just remember that there are no ADIF fields defined for this
information, see www.adif.org

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[Dx4win] ADIF Export including "QSL Status verified"

2012-12-10 Thread Thomas Herrmann 
Hello DX4WINner,

Reports/DXCC/Listing containes "QSL Status verified by ARRL-DXCC" as an asterix 
"*" beside QSL Status Label(L), Mailed(M), Confirmed"C".
But "QSL Status verified by ARRL-DXCC (checked)" is not included in ADIF Export 
file.

Anyone has modified the DX4Win ADIF Export Filter with "QSL Status verified by 
ARRL-DXCC" yet and would share the filter with others, please ?

Thank You for response.
73 de Thomas, DL1AMQ


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