Re: [Dx4win] Crash

[Tim moore]

It most likely has to do with resetting their locations in the config file

K4TK
Tim Moore

On Fri, May 31, 2024, 5:50 PM W9RPM  wrote:

> Tim, I should have said that I have 9 Monitors on my computer. Use 3 for
> DX4WIN. I have no idea of where they went. I can't even uncheck them in
> DX4WIN. Thanks, John W9RPM
> On 5/31/2024 5:15 PM, Tim moore wrote:
>
> How many monitors do you use? It could be that DX4WIN doesn't know where
> they are or thinks they are somewhere they aren't? There have been several
> emails about resetting the location of those windows in your configuration
> file.  Open that file and scroll downfind the settings for those
> windows and put them back to zero.  Or find those old emails doing a search
> for more detail on instructions for a reset of those windows.
>
> K4TK/Tim
> Tim Moore
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2024, 4:52 PM W9RPM  wrote:
>
>> Hi, I had a computer crash, and my Windows in DX4WIN got all messed up.
>> I Have been able to find them all except thee County Window, and the
>> Packet Window to connect to the Cluster. Any ideas?
>>
>>
>> Thanks, John W9RPM
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Re: [Dx4win] Crash

[W9RPM]

Tim, I should have said that I have 9 Monitors on my computer. Use 3 for 
DX4WIN. I have no idea of where they went. I can't even uncheck them in 
DX4WIN. Thanks, John W9RPM


On 5/31/2024 5:15 PM, Tim moore wrote:


How many monitors do you use? It could be that DX4WIN doesn't know 
where they are or thinks they are somewhere they aren't? There have 
been several emails about resetting the location of those windows in 
your configuration file.  Open that file and scroll downfind the 
settings for those windows and put them back to zero.  Or find those 
old emails doing a search for more detail on instructions for a reset 
of those windows.


K4TK/Tim

Tim Moore

On Fri, May 31, 2024, 4:52 PM W9RPM  wrote:

Hi, I had a computer crash, and my Windows in DX4WIN got all
messed up.
I Have been able to find them all except thee County Window, and the
Packet Window to connect to the Cluster. Any ideas?


Thanks, John W9RPM

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Re: [Dx4win] Crash

[Tim moore]

How many monitors do you use? It could be that DX4WIN doesn't know where
they are or thinks they are somewhere they aren't? There have been several
emails about resetting the location of those windows in your configuration
file.  Open that file and scroll downfind the settings for those
windows and put them back to zero.  Or find those old emails doing a search
for more detail on instructions for a reset of those windows.

K4TK/Tim
Tim Moore

On Fri, May 31, 2024, 4:52 PM W9RPM  wrote:

> Hi, I had a computer crash, and my Windows in DX4WIN got all messed up.
> I Have been able to find them all except thee County Window, and the
> Packet Window to connect to the Cluster. Any ideas?
>
>
> Thanks, John W9RPM
>
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[Dx4win] Crash

[W9RPM]

Hi, I had a computer crash, and my Windows in DX4WIN got all messed up. 
I Have been able to find them all except thee County Window, and the 
Packet Window to connect to the Cluster. Any ideas?



Thanks, John W9RPM

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Re: [Dx4win] CRASH

[Mike Cizek W0VTT]

Hello Josep,

You will need to add 60m to your awards and station settings again and make a 
new configuration file

File > Awards > DXCC  Check 60m in Award Bands and Valid Bands
File > Preferences > Station  Check 60m in Bands
File > Preferences > File > Write Configuration file
File > Preferences > File > Save changes and exit


73,
Mike Cizek W0VTT

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Of Josep via DX4WIN
Sent: Thursday, 6 April, 2023 13:21
To: DX4WIN Reflector 
Subject: [Dx4win] CRASH

Hi guys,
had a crash on the program, and don´t not how it happened.I close the program 
correctly but when I tried to open again it said something like bad config, or 
whatever.To  make long story short, I recovered the program using my 
backups.All works now but I can not see the 60m band when I open the COUNTRY 
window.All looks good in preferences but for any reason I can´t see if I have 
worked a station on that band in COUNTRY window.
Any help.? Thanks.


73,
JosepEA6BFMyWebsiteBUG #256  -  CWOps #3072  -  FOC #2182 (ex 1724) 
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[Dx4win] CRASH

[Josep via DX4WIN]

Hi guys,
had a crash on the program, and don´t not how it happened.I close the program 
correctly but when I tried to open again it said something like bad config, or 
whatever.To  make long story short, I recovered the program using my 
backups.All works now but I can not see the 60m band when I open the COUNTRY 
window.All looks good in preferences but for any reason I can´t see if I have 
worked a station on that band in COUNTRY window.
Any help.? Thanks.


73, 
JosepEA6BFMyWebsiteBUG #256  -  CWOps #3072  -  FOC #2182 (ex 1724)
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[Dx4win] R: R: Fw: dx4win crash importing adi file from wsjt

[Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI -]

Thank you Bernie.

Yes i did what you suggest.

I think that after having done once it should work al the time up to when i 
don’t clear the wsjt log file.

I can keep always the same file living dx4win making the choice of the new qsos.

Thank you very much for your help.

I think tomorrow i will be here once again with another “problem” may be our 
community is able to solve!

For the while all the very best.

73 de Tibor, IK2SAI

 

Da: w...@att.net  
Inviato: domenica 23 agosto 2020 16:06
A: tibor.b...@tiscali.it
Cc: Ian Fugler ; dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Oggetto: Re: [Dx4win] R: Fw: dx4win crash importing adi file from wsjt

 

Here’s The fix that work for me

I believe this started after a new update of WSJTX

Sometimes when WSJTX starts it tells you there’s an error ...but it doesn’t 
tell you what to do.





you will have to make a small edit to the wsjtx_log.adi file in the WSJT-X log 
files directory. Change the end of header marker from  to .

I found the fix on Google

This fixed work for me.





73 de Bernie/WO2N





On Aug 23, 2020, at 5:10 AM, Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI - mailto:tibor.b...@tiscali.it> > wrote:

Dear Ian thank you.
I have checked the file generated by wsjt and as you stated instead of EOH
there is just EH.
If i modify the file all is just running ok.
I just ask by myself why wsjt doesn't write the adi file as should.
This problem arised with this latest release.
Any way dear Ian this problemi is solved!
Vy 73 de Tibor, IK2SAI


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mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net> > Per
conto di Ian Fugler
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Oggetto: [Dx4win] Fw: dx4win crash importing adi file from wsjt



Tibor

Have you checked that the ADIF import file is correct?  I seem to recall
that there was a bug and the ADIF file was showing 'ER' instead of 'EOR' at
the end of the record, or 'EH' instead of 'EOH' after the header.  It was
something like that.

73,

Ian G4iiY


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behalf of Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI - mailto:tibor.b...@tiscali.it> >
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mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net> >
Subject: [Dx4win] dx4win crash importing adi file from wsjt

Hello guys.

I do have a problem importing from WSJT the log file (adi).

All the time dx4win crash.

Up to few days ago (before a clean reistallation of all the system) it was
working.

Any idea?



(Using dx4win 9.09.1259 and the lastest wsjt 2.02.02. Before i was using an
older version of wsjt on WIN10pro @64 bit)

Thanks

Vy 73 de Tibor, IK2SAI





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Re: [Dx4win] R: Fw: dx4win crash importing adi file from wsjt

[w...@att.net]

Here’s The fix that work for me
I believe this started after a new update of WSJTX
Sometimes when WSJTX starts it tells you there’s an error ...but it doesn’t 
tell you what to do.

you will have to make a small edit to the wsjtx_log.adi file in the WSJT-X log 
files directory. Change the end of header marker from  to .
I found the fix on Google
This fixed work for me.

73 de  Bernie/WO2N

> On Aug 23, 2020, at 5:10 AM, Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI -  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear Ian thank you.
> I have checked the file generated by wsjt and as you stated instead of EOH
> there is just EH.
> If i modify the file all is just running ok.
> I just ask by myself why wsjt doesn't write the adi file as should.
> This problem arised with this latest release.
> Any way dear Ian this problemi is solved!
> Vy 73 de Tibor, IK2SAI
> 
> 
> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  Per
> conto di Ian Fugler
> Inviato: domenica 23 agosto 2020 09:51
> A: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net
> Oggetto: [Dx4win] Fw: dx4win crash importing adi file from wsjt
> 
> 
> 
> Tibor
> 
> Have you checked that the ADIF import file is correct?  I seem to recall
> that there was a bug and the ADIF file was showing 'ER' instead of 'EOR' at
> the end of the record, or 'EH' instead of 'EOH' after the header.  It was
> something like that.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Ian G4iiY
> 
> 
> From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on
> behalf of Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI - 
> Sent: 23 August 2020 06:18
> To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net 
> Subject: [Dx4win] dx4win crash importing adi file from wsjt
> 
> Hello guys.
> 
> I do have a problem importing from WSJT the log file (adi).
> 
> All the time dx4win crash.
> 
> Up to few days ago (before a clean reistallation of all the system) it was
> working.
> 
> Any idea?
> 
> 
> 
> (Using dx4win 9.09.1259 and the lastest wsjt 2.02.02. Before i was using an
> older version of wsjt on WIN10pro @64 bit)
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Vy 73 de Tibor, IK2SAI
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Dx4win] R: Fw: dx4win crash importing adi file from wsjt

[Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI -]

Dear Ian thank you.
I have checked the file generated by wsjt and as you stated instead of EOH
there is just EH.
If i modify the file all is just running ok.
I just ask by myself why wsjt doesn't write the adi file as should.
This problem arised with this latest release.
Any way dear Ian this problemi is solved!
Vy 73 de Tibor, IK2SAI


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Inviato: domenica 23 agosto 2020 09:51
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Oggetto: [Dx4win] Fw: dx4win crash importing adi file from wsjt



Tibor

Have you checked that the ADIF import file is correct?  I seem to recall
that there was a bug and the ADIF file was showing 'ER' instead of 'EOR' at
the end of the record, or 'EH' instead of 'EOH' after the header.  It was
something like that.

73,

Ian G4iiY


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behalf of Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI - 
Sent: 23 August 2020 06:18
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Dx4win] dx4win crash importing adi file from wsjt

Hello guys.

I do have a problem importing from WSJT the log file (adi).

All the time dx4win crash.

Up to few days ago (before a clean reistallation of all the system) it was
working.

Any idea?



(Using dx4win 9.09.1259 and the lastest wsjt 2.02.02. Before i was using an
older version of wsjt on WIN10pro @64 bit)

Thanks

Vy 73 de Tibor, IK2SAI





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[Dx4win] Fw: dx4win crash importing adi file from wsjt

[Ian Fugler]

Tibor

Have you checked that the ADIF import file is correct?  I seem to recall that 
there was a bug and the ADIF file was showing 'ER' instead of 'EOR' at the end 
of the record, or 'EH' instead of 'EOH' after the header.  It was something 
like that.

73,

Ian G4iiY


From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on behalf 
of Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI - 
Sent: 23 August 2020 06:18
To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Dx4win] dx4win crash importing adi file from wsjt

Hello guys.

I do have a problem importing from WSJT the log file (adi).

All the time dx4win crash.

Up to few days ago (before a clean reistallation of all the system) it was
working.

Any idea?



(Using dx4win 9.09.1259 and the lastest wsjt 2.02.02. Before i was using an
older version of wsjt on WIN10pro @64 bit)

Thanks

Vy 73 de Tibor, IK2SAI





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[Dx4win] dx4win crash importing adi file from wsjt

[Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI -]

Hello guys.

I do have a problem importing from WSJT the log file (adi).

All the time dx4win crash.

Up to few days ago (before a clean reistallation of all the system) it was
working.

Any idea?

 

(Using dx4win 9.09.1259 and the lastest wsjt 2.02.02. Before i was using an
older version of wsjt on WIN10pro @64 bit)

Thanks

Vy 73 de Tibor, IK2SAI

 

 

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN crash, Missing IOTA Window

[Alan Zack]

Thank you Kostas, that fixed it. 

There were already some number settings there that I assumed sent the window 
into outer space. I replaced them with 0 (zeros) as you instructed. When I 
opened DX4WIN my IOTA window was in the upper left corner (the result of the 
zero settings). I was able to click and move it where I want it and all is FB.

I will definitely keep your email in my DX4WIN info folder in case it ever 
happens to another window. I did search the help files and opened the DOC: User 
Manual but could not find this info. 

Yours was the only response to my request. I could not figure this one out on 
my own but now I understand the process on how the windows remember where they 
are supposed to be positioned.

BTW you are in my log in 2005 and again 2010, and maybe as an OP from EP6T in 
2015

TU & 73
Alan K7ACZ

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To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN crash, Missing IOTA Window

Backup everything in case something goes bad.

Go to window>iota. I suppose it is checked. Click on it and press 
Alt+F4. This will close it.

Close dx4win

In dx4win>save directory find config.txt

Open it with notepad and search for [W-IOTA]

You will see something like this below

HEIGHT=80
LEFT=0
TOP=325
WIDTH=312

but with different numbers

Write

LEFT=0

TOP=0

Save the config file, open the dx4win and go to preferences. Load the just 
saved config file and open iota window.

It should appear somewhere on the left top of the screen

...73 de Kostas SV1DPI
   (One of SZ1A-EP6T)

Στις 8/2/2018 4:16 πμ, ο Alan Zack έγραψε:
> I have been using the new ver 9 since November last year with no 
> problems.
> I recently connected an EXT HD to my PC via a USB connection. DX4WIN 
> has a provision for backing up to an EXT HD via 
> PREFERENCES/QSO/SECONDARY BACKUP. I clicked on this window and a list 
> of my files on my PC appeared. I scrolled down and clicked on my new 
> HD shown as F:  Before I could even save my changes DX4WIN crashed.
> When I tried to open it again all I got was the little window that 
> will send crash data to Paul. I could never get D4W to open again. I 
> saved my ini file, license, and dxl files in a separate folder then 
> uninstalled D4W. I then installed a new fresh D4W. I seem to be back 
> to normal again. I used HELP/CHECK FOR UPDATES and updated to ver 
> 9.0.4.1176.
>   
> Only problem is I lost my IOTA window. On my WINDOW drop down menu I 
> have COUNTRY, SAME CALL, IOTA, and WORLD MAP selected. I suspect my 
> IOTA window is open but is somehow off screen. I have moved all the 
> other windows around and closed them one by one but can't find where 
> the IOTA window is hiding. I am using a 22/23 inch screen. Any 
> suggestions on how to find it again?
>   
> And any idea why it crashed when I selected a EXT HD for my secondary 
> backup? It never recovered.
>   
> TIA
> Alan K7ACZ
>   

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Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN crash, Missing IOTA Window

[Kostas SV1DPI]

Backup everything in case something goes bad.

Go to window>iota. I suppose it is checked. Click on it and press 
Alt+F4. This will close it.


Close dx4win

In dx4win>save directory find config.txt

Open it with notepad and search for [W-IOTA]

You will see something like this below

HEIGHT=80
LEFT=0
TOP=325
WIDTH=312

but with different numbers

Write

LEFT=0

TOP=0

Save the config file, open the dx4win and go to preferences. Load the 
just saved config file and open iota window.


It should appear somewhere on the left top of the screen

...73 de Kostas SV1DPI
  (One of SZ1A-EP6T)

Στις 8/2/2018 4:16 πμ, ο Alan Zack έγραψε:

I have been using the new ver 9 since November last year with no
problems.
I recently connected an EXT HD to my PC via a USB connection. DX4WIN
has a provision for backing up to an EXT HD via
PREFERENCES/QSO/SECONDARY BACKUP. I clicked on this window and a list
of my files on my PC appeared. I scrolled down and clicked on my new
HD shown as F:  Before I could even save my changes DX4WIN crashed.
When I tried to open it again all I got was the little window that
will send crash data to Paul. I could never get D4W to open again. I
saved my ini file, license, and dxl files in a separate folder then
uninstalled D4W. I then installed a new fresh D4W. I seem to be back
to normal again. I used HELP/CHECK FOR UPDATES and updated to ver
9.0.4.1176.
  
Only problem is I lost my IOTA window. On my WINDOW drop down menu I

have COUNTRY, SAME CALL, IOTA, and WORLD MAP selected. I suspect my
IOTA window is open but is somehow off screen. I have moved all the
other windows around and closed them one by one but can't find where
the IOTA window is hiding. I am using a 22/23 inch screen. Any
suggestions on how to find it again?
  
And any idea why it crashed when I selected a EXT HD for my secondary

backup? It never recovered.
  
TIA

Alan K7ACZ
  
Alan Zack

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Official USCG Auxiliary Comm Station
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
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[Dx4win] DX4WIN crash, Missing IOTA Window

[Alan Zack]

I have been using the new ver 9 since November last year with no
problems.
I recently connected an EXT HD to my PC via a USB connection. DX4WIN
has a provision for backing up to an EXT HD via
PREFERENCES/QSO/SECONDARY BACKUP. I clicked on this window and a list
of my files on my PC appeared. I scrolled down and clicked on my new
HD shown as F:  Before I could even save my changes DX4WIN crashed.
When I tried to open it again all I got was the little window that
will send crash data to Paul. I could never get D4W to open again. I
saved my ini file, license, and dxl files in a separate folder then
uninstalled D4W. I then installed a new fresh D4W. I seem to be back
to normal again. I used HELP/CHECK FOR UPDATES and updated to ver
9.0.4.1176.
 
Only problem is I lost my IOTA window. On my WINDOW drop down menu I
have COUNTRY, SAME CALL, IOTA, and WORLD MAP selected. I suspect my
IOTA window is open but is somehow off screen. I have moved all the
other windows around and closed them one by one but can't find where
the IOTA window is hiding. I am using a 22/23 inch screen. Any
suggestions on how to find it again?
 
And any idea why it crashed when I selected a EXT HD for my secondary
backup? It never recovered.
 
TIA
Alan K7ACZ
 
Alan Zack
Amateur Radio Station K7ACZ
Official USCG Auxiliary Comm Station
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
Delta Rocket Quality Engineer, The Boeing Company, Retired
Aviation Chief Warrant Officer,  U.S. Coast Guard, Retired
http://www.qrz.com/db/K7ACZ
  http://gocoastguard.com
  http://www.uscgradio.net
  http://www.comm-one.club
 
http://oldbluejacket.com/USCG_CoastiesRule.htm
 
 
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[Dx4win] Crash

[Guy]

To all,
APC is indeed a very good choice Bob, also look for
those from Bestpower on Ebay
These are normally INLINE UPS and giving you more protection
for overvoltage also.
OFFLINE UPS are much cheaper and still need some
time (ms) to get activated so still risking the crash .

73 Guy ON4AOI

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- Original Message -
From: "Bob Applegate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Crash


> - Original Message -
> From: "Barry " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Crash
>
> > On the subject of UPSs, I tried a 300 VA unit and it had insufficient
> > capacity for a standard Pentium and monitor. Go for at least 400
> > VA.  There are plenty of UPSs available on Ebay at a bargain
> > compared with new retail prices.
> > Barry W2UP
>
> And bear in mind that you can buy replacement batteries for almost any
> UPS.  Over the last 8 or 9 years, I've owned about 25 UPSes, all from
> APC.  They worked great.  Are they better than others?  Who knows...
> they kept lots of my servers running through power outages, and kept
> my networks alive.  I can buy replacement batteries at reasonable cost,
> and it's easy to swap them.  Many UPSes do self-tests of the batteries
> and warn you if they need replacing.  Better to find out BEFORE you
> really need it, HI!  So, if you get a used UPS, you can almost certainly
> replace the batteries without much problem at all.  It's a cheap
investment
> to keep your data protected.
>
> Now that I've sold my internet business, I still use UPSes for every
> piece of computing equipment in the house.  Computers, monitors,
> hubs, routers, etc.
>
> A working UPS is WELL worth the cost.
>
> 73
>
> Bob - K2UT
>
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[Dx4win] Crash

[Paul Ferguson]

> >The habitual use of  Alt S after new entries or changes will ensure
> >that the logbook is maintained in its most recent state and reduce
> >reliance on the backup.


I also use Alt S to make sure the logbook is updated.

I would like to see DX4WIN offer an "automatic ALT S. by having an option in 
Preferences to have a Save-to-Log done after each QSO.

I am suggesting this as a convenience and not as an answer to all backup 
problems. I also use a UPS and tape backup.

73,
Paul
K5ESW

[Dx4win] Crash

[Doug Hutchison]

The power supply is very stable here but I understand very well what you are
saying Jim.
 I have had several instances where PCs hang requiring a system reset giving
the same result as a power out. The use of Alt S reduces loss risk and gets
round DX4 not backing up automatically on some occcasions. As you say  the
use of Alt B will maintain the backup in parallel.

Also worthy of note is that when DX4 generates a backup it maintains a copy
of the preceding backup in the file DX4WIN.~XB

 Best regards, Doug, MM0BJA

- Original Message -
From: "Jim Reisert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 15:33
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Crash


> At 02:01 PM 1/4/2002 +, Doug Hutchison MM0BJA wrote:
>
> >The habitual use of  Alt S after new entries or changes will ensure that
the
> >logbook is maintained in its most recent state and reduce reliance on the
> >backup.
>
> You can never predict when power is going to fail, but you can try to
> minimize the likelihood of losing data:
>
> 1.  Put your PC on a battery backup UPS.  There have been a lot of cheap
> ones on sale recently as APC rolls out their new models.  You should be
> able to get a decent one (300VA) for under $50.  You can make the
backed-up
> power last longer if you plug in only the PC and not the monitor
> (especially for those of us who have 17-21" monitors).  However you'll be
> "in the dark" trying to save your log and/or shutting down the PC.  Most
> power glitches are only a few minutes in duration anyway (I'm making this
> up, are there statistics anywhere?).  We have several at home, including
> the cable modem and router, so we can continue to surf even when power is
> out (unless the town loses power).
>
> 2.  Don't walk away from the shack if there is an unsaved log.  When I get
> up, if the "modified" meter is still RED, I'll hit ALT-B to backup
> immediately.  ALT-S works just as well.  Then I know my log is on disk
> somewhere.
>
> 73 - Jim AD1C
>
>
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>
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[Dx4win] Crash

[Doug Hutchison]

I see, the list reply system is changed back again...thank you.
Thank you to Kris otherwise this would not have come to list.


Whenever there is situation which stops DX4 without a normal shut down, DX4
will, on restarting, issue a warning that a backup file exists and asks
whether or not is should be saved. If yes is given as the answer then a file
name will be requested via a normal file naming window. The file will
automatically be given the DXT extention and placed in
the SAVE folder. See SAVE in the help system.

The method used, I believe, is that the system automatically maintains a
backup in accordance with preferences set up and, should the system fail, it
compares the backup DXB file and the current log on restart. If the DXB is
younger than the log then an abnormal termination is indicated and you are
asked if you wish to save the backup as a log file ie DXL.

If, when your system came back up, you went through the above routine then
all you are looking for are log files in the SAVE folder.

If you did not go through the routine, you answered NO, then the backup will
have been discarded ie it reverted automatically to the last saved version
of the currently specified logbook.

The habitual use of  Alt S after new entries or changes will ensure that the
logbook is maintained in its most recent state and reduce reliance on the
backup.

Best regards, Doug, MM0BJA

- Original Message -
From: "Kris Mraz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "DX4WIN List" 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 04:30
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] crash


> Courtney,
>
> Just use Window's search utility. start->search. Look for the log file
> name, probably k4wi.dxl. If you can't remember the file name just look
> for all .dxl files. To find the previous version look for the .~xl
> extension file. There's also a file called DX4WIN.DXB which is the file
> that is automatically saved if you don't do a manual save. See below
> for more info on DX4WIN.DXB.
>
> Here are the specific directories on my system:
>
> C:\Program Files\dx4w503\DX4WIN.DXB
> C:\Program Files\dx4w503\save\n5km.dxl
>
> If you installed in the default recommended directories then it should
> be the same on your system.
>
> DX4WIN.DXB
> --
> dx4win maintains an autosave log file called DX4WIN.DXB.
> Let's say DX4WIN.DXB doesn't exist (which is the case when dx4win is
> first started).
>
> If you log a QSO and let dx4win automatically save, it will create
> DX4WIN.DXB in C:\Program Files\dx4w503 and save your log there.
>
> If you subsequently do a manual save your normal log, probably k4wi.dxl,
> will be updated but DX4WIN.DXB will remain the same, that is, not
> updated.
>
> The next time you let dx4win automatically save the DX4WIN.DXB file is
> renamed to DX4WIN.~XB and your log is saved to DX4WIN.DXB.
>
> This rolling of DX4WIN log files continues for every autosave until you
> exit the program. At this time the DX4WIN.DXB file is deleted and the
> DX4WIN.~XB file is retained.
>
> So based on your crash experience you may or may not have either of the
> DX4WIN log files depending on any automatic log saves prior to the
> crash.
>
> dx4win can detect a crashed version of your log file so you
> might want to try restarting dx4win. If it detects the DX4WIN.DXB file
> on startup it assumes the program crashed without going through the
> normal exit (deleting DX4WIN.DXB). You will be given the opportunity
> to save it. Save it with a name like crash.dxl. Then open crash.dxl and
> examine it for the missing QSO's. If you're lucky they will be there. If
> it crashed before your QSO's were autosaved you're out of luck. If you
> find them then just rename crash.dxl to k4wi.dxl.
>
> Your last chance is to look for DX4WIN.~XB. If this exists, rename it to
> something like oldlog.dxl and put it in your save directory
> (C:\Program Files\dx4w503\save). Open it and inspect it for the lost
> QSO's. If you find them rename oldlog.dxl to k4wi.dxl. Note: its not
> possible for DX4WIN.~XB to have ALL of your QSO's. By definition some
> will be missing.
>
> Good Luck.
>
> Kris N5KM
>
>
> PS: Based on this analysis it would appear that a better program exit
> strategy would be to rename DX4WIN.DXB to DX4WIN.~XB then exit. This
> would allow more QSO's to be recovered in case DX4WIN.~XB is the only
> thing left to salvage after a system crash.
>
> Courtney Judd wrote:
> >
> > Flame out here! computer crashed and I lost the few qso's that I had
logged.
> > It saved it somewhere but I can't remember where. Anyone know where to
look?
> > I really wouldn't care but I just had worked OX3OX on six meters and was
a
> > new one for me. Thanks
> > Courtney Judd K4WI
> > 2300 County Road 61
> > Uniontown, Al. 36786
> > e-mail= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Bob Applegate]

- Original Message - 
From: "Barry " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Crash

> On the subject of UPSs, I tried a 300 VA unit and it had insufficient 
> capacity for a standard Pentium and monitor. Go for at least 400 
> VA.  There are plenty of UPSs available on Ebay at a bargain 
> compared with new retail prices.
> Barry W2UP

And bear in mind that you can buy replacement batteries for almost any
UPS.  Over the last 8 or 9 years, I've owned about 25 UPSes, all from
APC.  They worked great.  Are they better than others?  Who knows...
they kept lots of my servers running through power outages, and kept
my networks alive.  I can buy replacement batteries at reasonable cost,
and it's easy to swap them.  Many UPSes do self-tests of the batteries
and warn you if they need replacing.  Better to find out BEFORE you
really need it, HI!  So, if you get a used UPS, you can almost certainly
replace the batteries without much problem at all.  It's a cheap investment
to keep your data protected.

Now that I've sold my internet business, I still use UPSes for every
piece of computing equipment in the house.  Computers, monitors,
hubs, routers, etc.

A working UPS is WELL worth the cost.

73

Bob - K2UT

[Dx4win] Crash

[Barry]

On the subject of UPSs, I tried a 300 VA unit and it had insufficient 
capacity for a standard Pentium and monitor. Go for at least 400 
VA.  There are plenty of UPSs available on Ebay at a bargain 
compared with new retail prices.
Barry W2UP

On 4 Jan 02, at 10:33, Jim Reisert wrote:

> At 02:01 PM 1/4/2002 +, Doug Hutchison MM0BJA wrote:
> 
> >The habitual use of  Alt S after new entries or changes will ensure
> >that the logbook is maintained in its most recent state and reduce
> >reliance on the backup.
> 
> You can never predict when power is going to fail, but you can try to
> minimize the likelihood of losing data:
> 
> 1.  Put your PC on a battery backup UPS.  There have been a lot of
> cheap ones on sale recently as APC rolls out their new models.  You
> should be able to get a decent one (300VA) for under $50.  You can
> make the backed-up power last longer if you plug in only the PC and
> not the monitor (especially for those of us who have 17-21" monitors).
>  However you'll be "in the dark" trying to save your log and/or
> shutting down the PC.  Most power glitches are only a few minutes in
> duration anyway (I'm making this up, are there statistics anywhere?). 
> We have several at home, including the cable modem and router, so we
> can continue to surf even when power is out (unless the town loses
> power).
> 
> 2.  Don't walk away from the shack if there is an unsaved log.  When I
> get up, if the "modified" meter is still RED, I'll hit ALT-B to backup
> immediately.  ALT-S works just as well.  Then I know my log is on disk
> somewhere.
> 
> 73 - Jim AD1C
> 
> 
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> 
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[Dx4win] Crash

[Pete Smith]

At 10:33 AM 1/4/02 -0500, Jim Reisert wrote:
...
>Most power glitches are only a few minutes in duration anyway (I'm making
this 
>up, are there statistics anywhere?). 

I got a 300VA APC UPS at Staples in November for $10 net after rebate!
Since then, I have noticed over a hundred dips that were enough to trigger
the alarm on the UPS, and probably would have crashed my PC.  None has been
longer than 3-4 seconds.

As Jim says, a great investment!

73, Pete N4ZR

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[Dx4win] Crash

[Jim Reisert]

At 02:01 PM 1/4/2002 +, Doug Hutchison MM0BJA wrote:

>The habitual use of  Alt S after new entries or changes will ensure that the
>logbook is maintained in its most recent state and reduce reliance on the
>backup.

You can never predict when power is going to fail, but you can try to 
minimize the likelihood of losing data:

1.  Put your PC on a battery backup UPS.  There have been a lot of cheap 
ones on sale recently as APC rolls out their new models.  You should be 
able to get a decent one (300VA) for under $50.  You can make the backed-up 
power last longer if you plug in only the PC and not the monitor 
(especially for those of us who have 17-21" monitors).  However you'll be 
"in the dark" trying to save your log and/or shutting down the PC.  Most 
power glitches are only a few minutes in duration anyway (I'm making this 
up, are there statistics anywhere?).  We have several at home, including 
the cable modem and router, so we can continue to surf even when power is 
out (unless the town loses power).

2.  Don't walk away from the shack if there is an unsaved log.  When I get 
up, if the "modified" meter is still RED, I'll hit ALT-B to backup 
immediately.  ALT-S works just as well.  Then I know my log is on disk 
somewhere.

73 - Jim AD1C


--
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USA +978-251-9933, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.ad1c.com

[Dx4win] crash

[Kris Mraz]

Courtney,

Just use Window's search utility. start->search. Look for the log file
name, probably k4wi.dxl. If you can't remember the file name just look
for all .dxl files. To find the previous version look for the .~xl 
extension file. There's also a file called DX4WIN.DXB which is the file
that is automatically saved if you don't do a manual save. See below
for more info on DX4WIN.DXB.

Here are the specific directories on my system:

C:\Program Files\dx4w503\DX4WIN.DXB
C:\Program Files\dx4w503\save\n5km.dxl

If you installed in the default recommended directories then it should
be the same on your system.

DX4WIN.DXB
--
dx4win maintains an autosave log file called DX4WIN.DXB.
Let's say DX4WIN.DXB doesn't exist (which is the case when dx4win is
first started).

If you log a QSO and let dx4win automatically save, it will create
DX4WIN.DXB in C:\Program Files\dx4w503 and save your log there. 

If you subsequently do a manual save your normal log, probably k4wi.dxl,
will be updated but DX4WIN.DXB will remain the same, that is, not
updated.

The next time you let dx4win automatically save the DX4WIN.DXB file is
renamed to DX4WIN.~XB and your log is saved to DX4WIN.DXB.

This rolling of DX4WIN log files continues for every autosave until you
exit the program. At this time the DX4WIN.DXB file is deleted and the
DX4WIN.~XB file is retained.

So based on your crash experience you may or may not have either of the
DX4WIN log files depending on any automatic log saves prior to the
crash.

dx4win can detect a crashed version of your log file so you
might want to try restarting dx4win. If it detects the DX4WIN.DXB file
on startup it assumes the program crashed without going through the
normal exit (deleting DX4WIN.DXB). You will be given the opportunity
to save it. Save it with a name like crash.dxl. Then open crash.dxl and
examine it for the missing QSO's. If you're lucky they will be there. If
it crashed before your QSO's were autosaved you're out of luck. If you
find them then just rename crash.dxl to k4wi.dxl.

Your last chance is to look for DX4WIN.~XB. If this exists, rename it to
something like oldlog.dxl and put it in your save directory
(C:\Program Files\dx4w503\save). Open it and inspect it for the lost
QSO's. If you find them rename oldlog.dxl to k4wi.dxl. Note: its not
possible for DX4WIN.~XB to have ALL of your QSO's. By definition some
will be missing.

Good Luck.

Kris N5KM


PS: Based on this analysis it would appear that a better program exit
strategy would be to rename DX4WIN.DXB to DX4WIN.~XB then exit. This 
would allow more QSO's to be recovered in case DX4WIN.~XB is the only
thing left to salvage after a system crash.

Courtney Judd wrote:
> 
> Flame out here! computer crashed and I lost the few qso's that I had logged.
> It saved it somewhere but I can't remember where. Anyone know where to look?
> I really wouldn't care but I just had worked OX3OX on six meters and was a
> new one for me. Thanks
> Courtney Judd K4WI
> 2300 County Road 61
> Uniontown, Al. 36786
> e-mail= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

[Dx4win] crash

[<[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Courtney Judd)]

Flame out here! computer crashed and I lost the few qso's that I had logged.
It saved it somewhere but I can't remember where. Anyone know where to look?
I really wouldn't care but I just had worked OX3OX on six meters and was a
new one for me. Thanks
Courtney Judd K4WI
2300 County Road 61
Uniontown, Al. 36786
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