Re: [Dx4win] DXCC Submissions and LoTW
Sorry, I didn't read all the way down. Yes, if a credit is already "Checked", I agree that it should remain checked (i.e. never needed to submit again) regardless of the settings of the QSL/LoTW/eQSL award flags. I believe I've also asked Paul for this before. 73 - Jim AD1C On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Dave Perry wrote: > >> No, unchecking Lotw will not work. The problem is with the Submissions >> report. If you uncheck Lotw, then the Submissions report includes cards for >> countries that were previously confirmed via Lotw confirmations. So the >> report becomes meaningless. This has been a shortcoming of the program for >> some time. I attempted to show Paul this problem at Dayton several years >> ago, but he did not understand the issue. > > You have to clear the submissions report and start all over. Once you > submit something, regardless of how it's confirmed, it will stay in > the report unless you start over. -- Jim Reisert AD1C, , http://www.ad1c.us __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DXCC Submissions and LoTW
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Dave Perry wrote: > No, unchecking Lotw will not work. The problem is with the Submissions > report. If you uncheck Lotw, then the Submissions report includes cards for > countries that were previously confirmed via Lotw confirmations. So the > report becomes meaningless. This has been a shortcoming of the program for > some time. I attempted to show Paul this problem at Dayton several years > ago, but he did not understand the issue. You have to clear the submissions report and start all over. Once you submit something, regardless of how it's confirmed, it will stay in the report unless you start over. -- Jim Reisert AD1C, , http://www.ad1c.us __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DXCC Submissions and LoTW
No, unchecking Lotw will not work. The problem is with the Submissions report. If you uncheck Lotw, then the Submissions report includes cards for countries that were previously confirmed via Lotw confirmations. So the report becomes meaningless. This has been a shortcoming of the program for some time. I attempted to show Paul this problem at Dayton several years ago, but he did not understand the issue. The Submissions report for DXCC should be changed so that it takes into account both QSOs that were confirmed by either Lotw and/or card. If you are like me, I have almost 1,800 band/countries confirmed for the DXCC Challenge -- hundreds have been confirmed via Lotw and hundreds more by card. So unchecking Lotw as suggested by Paul and Jim will not work. If I do that, then the Submissions report tries to submit cards for countries that were previously confirmed by Lotw. So I have to keep Card and Lotw checked at all times in order for my DXCC statistics and submissions to make sense. What we need is a Submissions report that only lists Cards in Hand and will not attempt to submit a card for a country that was previously confirmed by Lotw and also checked by the DXCC desk. There is also a small wrinkle that occurs when I have confirmed a new country by card and by Lotw. In that case, I always submit that QSO to the ARRL via the online application process in Lotw. Why have a card checker check a card when I can have it automatically credited via Lotw? So the submissions report should allow the user to run it for "Cards in Hand" in which a Lotw confirmation is also not pending. In other words, when a country has been confirmed both ways, I want to use the Lotw confirmation -- and thus the card for that country should not be listed on the Submissions report. I have an elaborate routine by which I have to run the Submissions report, export the file, and then use Excel to delete the Lotw confirmations so that only Card in Hand QSOs (not previously confirmed by Lotw) are listed on the new Submissions report. I then have to clear all Submit flags in DX4WIN. Enter only the QSOs being confirmed via Lotw, rerun the Submissions report, export the file, and then use Excel to delete the Lotw confirmations so that the Excel report only shows "Cards in hand" that were not also confirmed by Lotw. A few simple changes to the Submissions report for DXCC would greatly automate and streamline the submission process. Again, simply unchecking Lotw under File, Awards will not work. I have to keep both Card and Lotw checked at all times in order for the DXCC records to make sense. Do others agree that this would be a valuable enhancement to the program? Dave, N4QS - Original Message - From: "F6EXV Paul" To: Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 5:53 AM Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DXCC Submissions and LoTW Hello Under Files/Awards, uncheck "LoTW" in the "confirmation" box. 73 Paul F6EXV Le 03/12/2010 12:35, Rick Murphy a écrit : > Last night I found that I had a big problem with my log - I printed out a > submission report and started pulling cards and couldn't find cards for most > of the confirmations on the list. This seemed pretty odd until I noticed > that all of these were marked by DX4WIN as confirmed by LoTW, however when I > looked at the site there was no QSL. > > What apparently happened is that I downloaded a chunk of my log, used > LoTW/Import for LOTW to import those and DX4WIN didn't check if the contacts > were confirmed, setting the LoTW "Cnfm" flag for all QSOs. > > I was able to recover from this by clearing all of the LoTW confirm flags > (create a selection with Cnfm:Y in the LoTW column then "LoTW/Clear LoTW > confirmed" which cleared all of them. Downloaded QSLs (not QSOs!) from LoTW > from all of my calls and re-imported, now it looks correct. > I just wanted to warn anyone to be careful what you load into DX4WIN. > > Another issue is that the submission report includes all confirmations, > paper plus LoTW. This means that I can't just use it as is (i.e. hand it to > a field checker with my stack of cards) because the LoTW QSLs will need to > be deleted. > Is there a way that I can create a card-in-hand only submission report? > 73, > -Rick __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DXCC Submissions and LoTW
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:53 AM, F6EXV Paul wrote: > Hello > Under Files/Awards, uncheck "LoTW" in the "confirmation" box > Thanks, Paul. I'm glad it's that easy. 73, -Rick -- Rick Murphy, CISSP-ISSAP, K1MU/4, Annandale VA USA __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] DXCC Submissions and LoTW
Hello Under Files/Awards, uncheck "LoTW" in the "confirmation" box. 73 Paul F6EXV Le 03/12/2010 12:35, Rick Murphy a écrit : > Last night I found that I had a big problem with my log - I printed out a > submission report and started pulling cards and couldn't find cards for most > of the confirmations on the list. This seemed pretty odd until I noticed > that all of these were marked by DX4WIN as confirmed by LoTW, however when I > looked at the site there was no QSL. > > What apparently happened is that I downloaded a chunk of my log, used > LoTW/Import for LOTW to import those and DX4WIN didn't check if the contacts > were confirmed, setting the LoTW "Cnfm" flag for all QSOs. > > I was able to recover from this by clearing all of the LoTW confirm flags > (create a selection with Cnfm:Y in the LoTW column then "LoTW/Clear LoTW > confirmed" which cleared all of them. Downloaded QSLs (not QSOs!) from LoTW > from all of my calls and re-imported, now it looks correct. > I just wanted to warn anyone to be careful what you load into DX4WIN. > > Another issue is that the submission report includes all confirmations, > paper plus LoTW. This means that I can't just use it as is (i.e. hand it to > a field checker with my stack of cards) because the LoTW QSLs will need to > be deleted. > Is there a way that I can create a card-in-hand only submission report? > 73, > -Rick __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] DXCC Submissions and LoTW
Last night I found that I had a big problem with my log - I printed out a submission report and started pulling cards and couldn't find cards for most of the confirmations on the list. This seemed pretty odd until I noticed that all of these were marked by DX4WIN as confirmed by LoTW, however when I looked at the site there was no QSL. What apparently happened is that I downloaded a chunk of my log, used LoTW/Import for LOTW to import those and DX4WIN didn't check if the contacts were confirmed, setting the LoTW "Cnfm" flag for all QSOs. I was able to recover from this by clearing all of the LoTW confirm flags (create a selection with Cnfm:Y in the LoTW column then "LoTW/Clear LoTW confirmed" which cleared all of them. Downloaded QSLs (not QSOs!) from LoTW from all of my calls and re-imported, now it looks correct. I just wanted to warn anyone to be careful what you load into DX4WIN. Another issue is that the submission report includes all confirmations, paper plus LoTW. This means that I can't just use it as is (i.e. hand it to a field checker with my stack of cards) because the LoTW QSLs will need to be deleted. Is there a way that I can create a card-in-hand only submission report? 73, -Rick -- Rick Murphy, CISSP-ISSAP, K1MU/4, Annandale VA USA __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
