Re: [Dx4win] Next release
Fellow users, Here were my rules on doing a project. Rule 1 TimeSet a realistic time line for the project. Rule 2 Programming:Best scenario: 10% of time will be spend on 90% of the code and 90% of the time will be spent on 10% of the code. Rule 3 Documentation: P.I.A (Pain in anatomy) work, this takes longer than you think. Always some people are not happy with your work. Rule 4 New features: Set a cutoff date and stick to it. Rule 5 Bug Fix:Set a cutoff date and stick to it, 73 ES CUL == John Klim N3KHK -Original Message- From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mel Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:21 AM To: ON4AOI Cc: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Next release Studies have shown that changes late in a Project can cost 10 times or even 100 times more in effort than when part of the original design. Probably best to freeze the feature set. There can always be point releases if something particularly interesting is suggested. Just the features mentioned so-far make the new release very interesting. ON4AOI wrote: > Yep Mel, > > You understood It correct, the coding is not completely finished yet, > Like Jim wrote, but requesting other features will only slow down > the release, like I wrote yesterday there are other new things or changes > That aren´t announced yet. > I also don´t say that Paul may consider to write some more > Code if the suggestion/feature would be a big improvement for DX4WIN. > > > Guy ON4AOI > >> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- >> Van: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win- >> boun...@mailman.qth.net] Namens Mel >> Verzonden: donderdag 14 mei 2009 14:47 >> Aan: Jim Reisert AD1C >> CC: DX4WIN Reflector >> Onderwerp: Re: [Dx4win] Next release >> >> Would it be fair to say the design phase is complete and he is working >> on the coding? In which it is past the time to be requesting new >> features. >> >> Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: >>> Paul wrote: >>> >>> "The short answer is that I'm working on a new version but it will >>> not be ready to be released at Dayton. Even if the code would be >> ready >>> today, updating the documentation and the website will still take >> some >>> time." >>> >>> He never said programming is complete. I can assure you it is not. >>> >>> 73 - Jim AD1C >>> >>> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Dick Flanagan wrote: >>>> At 08:05 PM 5/13/2009, someone wrote: >>>> >It is possible to make in the new version... >>>> >>>> According to Paul the programming is complete for the new >>>> version. Only the documentation needs to be wrapped up. Any new-er >>>> features will need to wait for the next version. >>>> >>>> Dick >>>> -- >>>> Dick Flanagan K7VC >>>> d...@k7vc.com >> __ >> Dx4win mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
Studies have shown that changes late in a Project can cost 10 times or even 100 times more in effort than when part of the original design. Probably best to freeze the feature set. There can always be point releases if something particularly interesting is suggested. Just the features mentioned so-far make the new release very interesting. ON4AOI wrote: > Yep Mel, > > You understood It correct, the coding is not completely finished yet, > Like Jim wrote, but requesting other features will only slow down > the release, like I wrote yesterday there are other new things or changes > That aren´t announced yet. > I also don´t say that Paul may consider to write some more > Code if the suggestion/feature would be a big improvement for DX4WIN. > > > Guy ON4AOI > >> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- >> Van: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win- >> boun...@mailman.qth.net] Namens Mel >> Verzonden: donderdag 14 mei 2009 14:47 >> Aan: Jim Reisert AD1C >> CC: DX4WIN Reflector >> Onderwerp: Re: [Dx4win] Next release >> >> Would it be fair to say the design phase is complete and he is working >> on the coding? In which it is past the time to be requesting new >> features. >> >> Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: >>> Paul wrote: >>> >>> "The short answer is that I'm working on a new version but it will >>> not be ready to be released at Dayton. Even if the code would be >> ready >>> today, updating the documentation and the website will still take >> some >>> time." >>> >>> He never said programming is complete. I can assure you it is not. >>> >>> 73 - Jim AD1C >>> >>> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Dick Flanagan wrote: >>>> At 08:05 PM 5/13/2009, someone wrote: >>>> >It is possible to make in the new version... >>>> >>>> According to Paul the programming is complete for the new >>>> version. Only the documentation needs to be wrapped up. Any new-er >>>> features will need to wait for the next version. >>>> >>>> Dick >>>> -- >>>> Dick Flanagan K7VC >>>> d...@k7vc.com >> __ >> Dx4win mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
Yep Mel, You understood It correct, the coding is not completely finished yet, Like Jim wrote, but requesting other features will only slow down the release, like I wrote yesterday there are other new things or changes That aren´t announced yet. I also don´t say that Paul may consider to write some more Code if the suggestion/feature would be a big improvement for DX4WIN. Guy ON4AOI > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win- > boun...@mailman.qth.net] Namens Mel > Verzonden: donderdag 14 mei 2009 14:47 > Aan: Jim Reisert AD1C > CC: DX4WIN Reflector > Onderwerp: Re: [Dx4win] Next release > > Would it be fair to say the design phase is complete and he is working > on the coding? In which it is past the time to be requesting new > features. > > Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: > > Paul wrote: > > > > "The short answer is that I'm working on a new version but it will > > not be ready to be released at Dayton. Even if the code would be > ready > > today, updating the documentation and the website will still take > some > > time." > > > > He never said programming is complete. I can assure you it is not. > > > > 73 - Jim AD1C > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Dick Flanagan wrote: > >> At 08:05 PM 5/13/2009, someone wrote: > >> >It is possible to make in the new version... > >> > >> According to Paul the programming is complete for the new > >> version. Only the documentation needs to be wrapped up. Any new-er > >> features will need to wait for the next version. > >> > >> Dick > >> -- > >> Dick Flanagan K7VC > >> d...@k7vc.com > > > __ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
Would it be fair to say the design phase is complete and he is working on the coding? In which it is past the time to be requesting new features. Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: > Paul wrote: > > "The short answer is that I'm working on a new version but it will > not be ready to be released at Dayton. Even if the code would be ready > today, updating the documentation and the website will still take some > time." > > He never said programming is complete. I can assure you it is not. > > 73 - Jim AD1C > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Dick Flanagan wrote: >> At 08:05 PM 5/13/2009, someone wrote: >> >It is possible to make in the new version... >> >> According to Paul the programming is complete for the new >> version. Only the documentation needs to be wrapped up. Any new-er >> features will need to wait for the next version. >> >> Dick >> -- >> Dick Flanagan K7VC >> d...@k7vc.com > __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
At 10:15 PM 5/13/2009, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote: >He never said programming is complete. I can assure you it is not. My apologies. I misread his statement. Sorry. Dick -- Dick Flanagan K7VC d...@k7vc.com __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
Paul wrote: "The short answer is that I'm working on a new version but it will not be ready to be released at Dayton. Even if the code would be ready today, updating the documentation and the website will still take some time." He never said programming is complete. I can assure you it is not. 73 - Jim AD1C On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Dick Flanagan wrote: > At 08:05 PM 5/13/2009, someone wrote: > >It is possible to make in the new version... > > According to Paul the programming is complete for the new > version. Only the documentation needs to be wrapped up. Any new-er > features will need to wait for the next version. > > Dick > -- > Dick Flanagan K7VC > d...@k7vc.com -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, , http://www.ad1c.us __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
I have asked for this as well. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Andy - UA0BA wrote: > Hello to ALL! > > It is possible to make in the new version of the program DX4WIN installation > date of reception paper QSL by button F2 pressing? > > Good luck! > 73 de Andy/UA0BA > ua...@norcom.ru > ICQ: 11727506 -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, , http://www.ad1c.us __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
At 08:05 PM 5/13/2009, someone wrote: >It is possible to make in the new version... According to Paul the programming is complete for the new version. Only the documentation needs to be wrapped up. Any new-er features will need to wait for the next version. Dick -- Dick Flanagan K7VC d...@k7vc.com __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
Hello to ALL! It is possible to make in the new version of the program DX4WIN installation date of reception paper QSL by button F2 pressing? Good luck! 73 de Andy/UA0BA ua...@norcom.ru ICQ: 11727506 __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
Another improvement for next release: QRZ.com 2.0 full support for subscribers - directly connect via internet with userid and password - to grab the card label into manager addresses pvandere...@cox.net ha scritto: > Around this time of the year a number of users ask if there will be a > new version of DX4WIN, if there will be any special deals for Dayton > etc. The short answer is that I'm working on a new version but it will > not be ready to be released at Dayton. Even if the code would be ready > today, updating the documentation and the website will still take some > time. I also decided not to attend the Hamvention but work on the > program instead. I will miss the personal interaction, but hope to > make up by releasing the next version sooner. > > The next release will have a few interesting items, such as a band map, a > new awards manager / report generator, option to select different 'skins', > a few extra fields in the QSO Window (like name, QTH and frequency) > > I will keep you posted > > --73, Paul, KK4HD > > __ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
Another suggestion: now that the latest version of BV7 labels can export QSO data, add that as an option for label printing. It is the best QSO label printer I've found. Or change DX4WIN so you can print the date in various numeric formats. Not everyone speaks English. Please improve the "ignore mode in real time". Perhaps make it a option under preferences. 73 Jack N8DX On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:04 PM, wrote: > Around this time of the year a number of users ask if there will be a > new version of DX4WIN, if there will be any special deals for Dayton > etc. The short answer is that I'm working on a new version but it will > not be ready to be released at Dayton. Even if the code would be ready > today, updating the documentation and the website will still take some > time. I also decided not to attend the Hamvention but work on the > program instead. I will miss the personal interaction, but hope to > make up by releasing the next version sooner. > > The next release will have a few interesting items, such as a band map, a > new awards manager / report generator, option to select different 'skins', > a few extra fields in the QSO Window (like name, QTH and frequency) > > I will keep you posted > > --73, Paul, KK4HD > > __ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
Hi All, In addition to what Paul and Jim announced earlier today there are more interesting things, - All types of SteppIR Antennas controlled by DX4WIN and this from one or two (different !) radio´s without changing cables. - The ultimate Membership listing, with this neat future you can create your own tracking list with [L] LoTW - [F] Fist - [D] DIG - [E] eQSL (members/users) in it. When for instance JIM is spotted you get AD1C [EL] in the Bandmap And also in the spot window in a separated column. - And there is more Guy ON4AOI > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx4win- > boun...@mailman.qth.net] Namens Jim Reisert AD1C > Verzonden: woensdag 13 mei 2009 18:57 > Aan: DX4WIN Reflector > Onderwerp: Re: [Dx4win] Next release > > A couple other things in the next version: > > - better Satellite mode support, so Sat QSOs can be exported and > signed for LoTW. > > - QSO entry now has field for IOTA island name (in addition to group > ref. #). > This should make it easier to export logs for the IOTA program. > > > new awards manager / report generator > > A result of this is that CW DXCC QSOs only count from 01/01/1975 and > after. This might make a few people happy. > > 73 - Jim AD1C > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, wrote: > > > Around this time of the year a number of users ask if there will be a > > new version of DX4WIN, if there will be any special deals for Dayton > > etc. The short answer is that I'm working on a new version but it > will > > not be ready to be released at Dayton. Even if the code would be > ready > > today, updating the documentation and the website will still take > some > > time. I also decided not to attend the Hamvention but work on the > > program instead. I will miss the personal interaction, but hope to > > make up by releasing the next version sooner. > > > > The next release will have a few interesting items, such as a band > map, a > > new awards manager / report generator, option to select different > 'skins', > > a few extra fields in the QSO Window (like name, QTH and frequency) > > > > I will keep you posted > > > > --73, Paul, KK4HD > > -- > Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, , http://www.ad1c.us > __ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
Paul, Thanks for the update, and I will enjoy each of the added items you mention below. Nothing is perfect, but every time I see email criticism of DX4WIN, I think about the tremendous resources that this product has put at my fingertips. Thank You !! 73, Blair, AB4V -Original Message- From: pvandere...@cox.net To: DX4WIN Reflector Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:04 pm Subject: [Dx4win] Next release Around this time of the year a number of users ask if there will be a new version of DX4WIN, if there will be any special deals for Dayton etc. The short answer is that I'm working on a new version but it will not be ready to be released at Dayton. Even if the code would be ready today, updating the documentation and the website will still take some time. I also decided not to attend the Hamvention but work on the program instead. I will miss the personal interaction, but hope to make up by releasing the next version sooner. The next release will have a few interesting items, such as a band map, a new awards manager / report generator, option to select different 'skins', a few extra fields in the QSO Window (like name, QTH and frequency) I will keep you posted --73, Paul, KK4HD __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
A couple other things in the next version: - better Satellite mode support, so Sat QSOs can be exported and signed for LoTW. - QSO entry now has field for IOTA island name (in addition to group ref. #). This should make it easier to export logs for the IOTA program. > new awards manager / report generator A result of this is that CW DXCC QSOs only count from 01/01/1975 and after. This might make a few people happy. 73 - Jim AD1C On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, wrote: > Around this time of the year a number of users ask if there will be a > new version of DX4WIN, if there will be any special deals for Dayton > etc. The short answer is that I'm working on a new version but it will > not be ready to be released at Dayton. Even if the code would be ready > today, updating the documentation and the website will still take some > time. I also decided not to attend the Hamvention but work on the > program instead. I will miss the personal interaction, but hope to > make up by releasing the next version sooner. > > The next release will have a few interesting items, such as a band map, a > new awards manager / report generator, option to select different 'skins', > a few extra fields in the QSO Window (like name, QTH and frequency) > > I will keep you posted > > --73, Paul, KK4HD -- Jim Reisert AD1C/Ø, , http://www.ad1c.us __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Dx4win] Next release
Good news Paul. Looking forward to version 8... good luck with the programming... to coin a phrase: "Don't let the bad bugs bite!" Mel, VE2DC pvandere...@cox.net wrote: > Around this time of the year a number of users ask if there will be a > new version of DX4WIN, if there will be any special deals for Dayton > etc. The short answer is that I'm working on a new version but it will > not be ready to be released at Dayton. Even if the code would be ready > today, updating the documentation and the website will still take some > time. I also decided not to attend the Hamvention but work on the > program instead. I will miss the personal interaction, but hope to > make up by releasing the next version sooner. > > The next release will have a few interesting items, such as a band map, a > new awards manager / report generator, option to select different 'skins', > a few extra fields in the QSO Window (like name, QTH and frequency) > > I will keep you posted > > --73, Paul, KK4HD > > __ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Dx4win] Next release
Around this time of the year a number of users ask if there will be a new version of DX4WIN, if there will be any special deals for Dayton etc. The short answer is that I'm working on a new version but it will not be ready to be released at Dayton. Even if the code would be ready today, updating the documentation and the website will still take some time. I also decided not to attend the Hamvention but work on the program instead. I will miss the personal interaction, but hope to make up by releasing the next version sooner. The next release will have a few interesting items, such as a band map, a new awards manager / report generator, option to select different 'skins', a few extra fields in the QSO Window (like name, QTH and frequency) I will keep you posted --73, Paul, KK4HD __ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dx4win@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
