[e-gold-list] e-gold customer service?
Gentlemen, This email is in immediate response to a good customers complaint. Apparantly, yesterday, after I funded his account, my customer was compromised by the owner of e-gold account 305107, and the amount of $600 was stolen. (batch 2569064) As the President of the Alliance, Doug, Reid, I am asking you to take immediate action to re-cover Mr Warminski's gold. This action is not beyond the spirit of g-commerce, but certainly may infringe upon the policies of e-gold/GSR/Omnipay. If so, and in the interest of the entire gold economy, let's go with the spirit of the law, and change the offending policies. Immediately, I require the perpetrators account to be blocked, and at least the funds in question to be returned to the rightful owner. Any other action, or non performance, by you guys will signal that you are aiding and abetting the perpetrators. Did he make a mistake. Yes. He quite by accident logged into Qgold, or similar. Strong Customer Service, shown by e-gold, would go down very nicely, just about NOW. Why is it that OSGOLD are growing by leaps and bounds? They have STRONG customer service, 18 hour/day online reps, and good customer protection policies, and they DON'T protect the thieves and crooks. Gets it everytime... Doug, Reid, the major reason why I am in the US is to have a meeting with you about these very same issues. My request for an appointment 7 weeks ago, has obviously been ignored, perhaps overlooked? My phone number is 310-215-1000. Doug, Reid, call me now, and lets make an appointment. Incidently, I will remain in the US indefinately, until a meeting is convened. Mr. Warminski: Can I suggest you use Standard Reserve or OSGold in future? Graham Kelly CEO GoldNow Corporation http://www.GoldNow.St Phone/Fax +44 (0)709-233-7612 USA Phone/Fax +1(509) 2782268 PS The outcome of this request will be publically shared across the gold community. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Graham, The account number that my funds went into is 305107. The batch number, if important was 2569064. The funds were taken out at 12:54 GMT, some 8 hours after the funds were credited. I was not able to access my account at the time the funds were taken out. I am going t call Mr. Trotter and demand my funds be returned. I will not hang up the phone until I get satisfaction. The thing that strikes me as funny, is that I called e-gold at about 10am PST and told them that my account was not accessible. They changed the passphrase right then and there. So tell me? How in the word could anybody have gotten into my account at 12:54 when the passphrase was changed so that even a hacker could not have accessed it?? Thanks for your help. Anthony Warminski --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] ANNOUNCE: 22-23 June - Edinburgh Financial Cryptography Engineering
Dear all, hope some of you can make it along to this conference. Last year saw (among others) Douglas Jackson showing e-gold over a WAP phone, Ian Grigg demonstrating the Systemics market for trading currencies in real-time and me (Rachel Willmer) demonstrating a Mondex-to-e-gold exchange through our CashBox. This year, we're hoping to unveil the first demonstration of Systemics' WebFunds integrated into the Intertrader CashBox, so will probably be showing an e-gold-DigiGold-HansaBux exchange. And there's plenty of other good speakers getting lined up right now too. Remember the main rule about this conference is that presenters of Running Code (no vapourware please!) get a heavy discount! Cheers Rachel --- start included message --- The Second Edinburgh Financial Cryptography Engineering Conference 22-23 June, 2001 (Friday, Saturday) The Signet Library Parliament Square The Royal Mile Edinburgh Scotland C A L L F O R P A R T I C I P A N T S Edinburgh is again host to the international *engineering* conference on Financial Cryptography. Companies active in the field meet to present and demonstrate. All demonstrations feature Running Code that pushes forward the state of the art in Financial Cryptography. STATEMENT OF INTENT The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it. -- John Kenneth Galbraith, Money: Whence it came, where it went - 1975, p15 This is a technical, practical meet. Demonstrable technology in the field of Financial Cryptography is presented. This is a practical conference, every presentation involves a demonstration. THE VENUE Our Venue is the Upper Library, within the Signet Library, which is a listed building housing the Society of Writers to Her Majesty's Signet. This exclusive conference venue is located in the centre of Edinburgh, within the Royal Mile. ADMINISTRATION Included in the conference admission will be breakfast, lunch and tea coffee breaks. The conference administration will block-book a convenient hotel in the centre of town. Details to be advised. NEXT STEPS FOR PARTICIPATING 1. Save the dates 22/23 June, Friday and Saturday on your calendar. 2. Book passage to Edinburgh. Don't forget to stay a few days on either side to see the sights. Check the site for travel information. Top Tips: Book your flight ASAP, and leave Sunday or after to get the best fare. 3. This is a commercial conference with a fee of 500 GBP (approximately $720 or 800 euro). The conference hotel is anticipated to be about 100 GBP ($145 or E160) per night. Also include travel and incidentals in your budget. 4. Consider sponsoring the conference. For more details, contact Rachel Willmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5. Keep an eye on the conference web site http://www.efce.net for evolving details. ADDITIONAL STEPS FOR PRESENTERS 6. Prepare your presentation - check the evolving programme at http://www.efce.net/programme.html. Propose your presentation by mailing the Programme Chair, Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7. Remember, the main rule is that you demo working code. 8. Accepted presenters pay a deeply discounted fee of 200 GBP (approximately 290 dollars or 320 euros). You are encouraged to present running code. EFCE2001 COMMITTEE Rachel Willmer General Chair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fearghas McKay Local Chair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ian GriggProgramme Chair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for any and all details. SPONSORSHIP EFCE is supported by these companies active in Financial Cryptography: * Intertrader Ltd, an Edinburgh-based e-payments middleware and applications company. http://www.intertrader.com/ * Systemics Inc, a builder of financial cryptography applications. http://www.systemics.com/ --- end included message --- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] cashless society drivel
The unsigned article Dreams of a cashless society [The Economist, p.65, May 5th, print version] dismisses e-gold as a virtual currency used as pay that avoids the tax man. I would have expected a modicum of critical discernment from the Economist. Electronic payment systems and especially privately issued currencies will succeed or fail based on the soundness/coherence of their economic logic and the strength of their business model. Lumping e-gold in with beenz, flooz and PayPal is an indication that the writer has not examined issues such as the loading function or the value proposition embodied in the circulating liabilities of the various issuers. The point of e-gold is immediate settlement with extremely low direct costs, non-repudiation, an efficient automation interface, bi-directionality [fostering an active, competitive exchange market], combined with zero credit or liquidity risk. When you are ready to undertake a serious analysis please contact me. Douglas Jackson MD Founder and Chairman, e-gold Ltd. www.e-gold.com CEO, OmniPay www.omnipay.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: cashless society drivel
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Douglas Jackson I would have expected a modicum of critical discernment from the Economist. I once subscribed to _The Economist_ but did not renew my subscription when it ran out. I expected it to be a free market-oriented magazine with an emphasis on sound economic reasoning. To be sure there was some of that, but mostly I found it to be shockingly left-leaning, credulously accepting of claims of the supposed benefits of third-party decision-making by government bureaucrats and highly critical of Americans with our silly ideas about individual liberty. I suspect that part of the problem is that _good_ economists realize that sound economic policy leaves little for an economist to do. I'm not a bit surprised that it gave short shrift to privatized money. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Online version (was Re: cashless society drivel
At 11:53 AM 5/9/2001, Douglas Jackson wrote: The unsigned article Dreams of a cashless society [The Economist, p.65, May 5th, print version] dismisses e-gold as a virtual currency used as pay that avoids the tax man. The electronic version is at http://economist.com/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=613491 George __ George Matyjewicz, President/General Manager Standard Reserve Holding Limited World Wide Currency for the World http://www.standardreserve.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: cashless society drivel
At 12:37 PM -0400 on 5/9/01, Samuel Mc Kee wrote: mostly I found it to be shockingly left-leaning, Nah. they're a windvane. When the Torys are in power, they're Tories. When the commu ^h ^h ^h ^h ^h ^h ^h ^hLabor's in charge, they're Labor. Could be that they fire everyone when the government changes, which is why they have anonymous articles, but that's just a SWAG... I go over about once a month these days, and,, until this gas-tax thing happened, I couldn't find a living soul (well, okay, about 12 living souls) who confessed to having ever *ever* being Tories. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Is Goldchanger always on holiday ?
Or has he been hit by the Secret Service too ? One of my Clients sent him some cash 20 days ago and is still waiting his account to be credited. He sent 2 emails, the first 7 days ago, and is still waiting a reply ! And so of course, the client doesn't pay us, as his account isn't funded ! GREAT, goldchanger ! MC -- Mariman Center www.mariman.net WebHosting - WebDesign --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold customer service?
It's very difficult stuff, Graham. It's a great pity that customer was silly enough or unfortunate to fall for a simple scam. But consider - if Jim repudiates this one spend, it could simply mean the end of e-gold. Is that a better or worse outcome? I have, oh, ten, maybe 15 spends that are spectacularly better candidates for repudiatin than that particular one. If your particular spend was repudiated, but not the dozen I want repudiated, I'd litigated Douglas, his family, and then all his companies out of all existence. The smallest problem in anyone's universe would be the odd $600. So, it's very difficult stuff. JP May Gentlemen, This email is in immediate response to a good customers complaint. Apparantly, yesterday, after I funded his account, my customer was compromised by the owner of e-gold account 305107, and the amount of $600 was stolen. (batch 2569064) As the President of the Alliance, Doug, Reid, I am asking you to take immediate action to re-cover Mr Warminski's gold. This action is not beyond the spirit of g-commerce, but certainly may infringe upon the policies of e-gold/GSR/Omnipay. If so, and in the interest of the entire gold economy, let's go with the spirit of the law, and change the offending policies. Immediately, I require the perpetrators account to be blocked, and at least the funds in question to be returned to the rightful owner. Any other action, or non performance, by you guys will signal that you are aiding and abetting the perpetrators. Did he make a mistake. Yes. He quite by accident logged into Qgold, or similar. Strong Customer Service, shown by e-gold, would go down very nicely, just about NOW. Why is it that OSGOLD are growing by leaps and bounds? They have STRONG customer service, 18 hour/day online reps, and good customer protection policies, and they DON'T protect the thieves and crooks. Gets it everytime... Doug, Reid, the major reason why I am in the US is to have a meeting with you about these very same issues. My request for an appointment 7 weeks ago, has obviously been ignored, perhaps overlooked? My phone number is 310-215-1000. Doug, Reid, call me now, and lets make an appointment. Incidently, I will remain in the US indefinately, until a meeting is convened. Mr. Warminski: Can I suggest you use Standard Reserve or OSGold in future? Graham Kelly CEO GoldNow Corporation http://www.GoldNow.St Phone/Fax +44 (0)709-233-7612 USA Phone/Fax +1(509) 2782268 PS The outcome of this request will be publically shared across the gold community. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Graham, The account number that my funds went into is 305107. The batch number, if important was 2569064. The funds were taken out at 12:54 GMT, some 8 hours after the funds were credited. I was not able to access my account at the time the funds were taken out. I am going t call Mr. Trotter and demand my funds be returned. I will not hang up the phone until I get satisfaction. The thing that strikes me as funny, is that I called e-gold at about 10am PST and told them that my account was not accessible. They changed the passphrase right then and there. So tell me? How in the word could anybody have gotten into my account at 12:54 when the passphrase was changed so that even a hacker could not have accessed it?? Thanks for your help. Anthony Warminski --- Great ventures create great mottos. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: cashless society drivel
I too have become more and more ... amused .. with _The Economist_. Fortunately, my huge pile of books arrived from LAISSEZ FAIRE BOOKS in the posts - paid with e-gold. You get a great LFBooks catalog which is worth buying somerthing! JP I once subscribed to _The Economist_ but did not renew my subscription when it ran out. I expected it to be a free market-oriented magazine with an emphasis on sound economic reasoning. To be sure there was some of that, but mostly I found it to be shockingly left-leaning, credulously accepting of claims of the supposed benefits of third-party decision-making by government bureaucrats and highly critical of Americans with our silly ideas about individual liberty. I suspect that part of the problem is that _good_ economists realize that sound economic policy leaves little for an economist to do. I'm not a bit surprised that it gave short shrift to privatized money. --- Great ventures create great mottos. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: cashless society drivel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too have become more and more ... amused .. with _The Economist_. It could still have some value though. I don't have the time (and I don't subscribe) but it would be neat to track it's articles vs the markets to see how good of a contrarian indicator it is. I heard that at one point it had an article about how oil was going lower just as oil made an intermediate low and turned around and headed higher. Bob --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Goldchanger
I sure hope nothing has happened to goldchanger!! I got some e-gold credited from them about a week ago, with some more due any day now (I have to wait for the cheques to clear). Then again, if your customer sent payment in cash, there's always the danger it could be stolen by post office staff. New Books at Discount Prices --- Send the right message --- + Today freemail + Get your free, private email address at http://www.today.com.au --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Metal-Escrow gets listed!
Hi All, We at Metal-Escrow.com are happy to announce that we are now listed on the e-gold(tm) site! Soon our services will be extended to accept international customers who pay by bank wire transfer. This will be a 100% offshore business (Bank in the Isle of Man). Soon international credit card customers will be able to fund their e-gold accounts at Metal-Escrow. We are developing a fraud resistant system that will help to protect both the cardholder and the merchant. We are still the most economical and reliable way to fund your e-gold account if you are in Australia or New Zealand. Visit us at http://metal-escrow.com if you need any of these services. Regards, Sidd. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
