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[e-gold-list] WARNING! (the persistent e-Qold scammer)
This person has moved ISPs AGAIN. He's now on Verio.net. We've emailed both the ISP and the DNS people covering E-Glox. He's still using Network Solutions for e-golx etc. There's still not even a hint of SSL encryption on this scammer's site. Sigh... Anyway, WARNING! Don't respond to spam! Do look at what you're going to click on BEFORE you click on it! If you feel the urge, you're welcome to enter FALSE! information on his site or do anything else creative (ahem!) you feel would help. Please be careful out there! If you have any questions, please feel free to e-mail me, but when in doubt DO NOT enter sensitive information on ANY site! Thanks. JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: WARNING! (the persistent e-Qold scammer)
Unbelievable! As a public service to all the potential scam victims out there, I can provide a service that will tell you if your password has been compromised. Just e-mail me your account number and password, and I'll tell you if your account has been compromised. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] RE: WARNING! (the persistent e-Qold scammer)
As a public service to all the potential scam victims out there, I can provide a service that will tell you if your password has been compromised. Just e-mail me your account number and password, and I'll tell you if your account has been compromised. Okay. My acct# is 42 My passphrase is D... hey, wait a minute! how much is the service going to cost me? :) Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.2cw.org/VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Same 'ol
The Republican promise reneged -- by Jacob Halbrooks For years the Republicans have been promising less government and lower taxes, but with control of Congress and now the White House, they have not delivered. Halbrooks explains why they are not honoring, and will never honor, this promise. (05/01) http://www.geocities.com/libertarian_press/republicans.html They must be at it again (since the beginning of this year): U.S. Money Growth: Words Unnecessary http://www.goldensextant.com/commentary16.html#anchor84178 It takes a while to load, but worth the wait. Bob -- http://www.bearerinstruments.com A Directory of Web sites and Internet presences accepting non-fiat monies. http://www.bearerinstruments.com/assets/BIMDsPGPkey.txt 650C 51DA 734F 697F 5706 3D6A 7712 BCC9 D1AE 00BA --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Ozzigold.com Special
Australian e-gold users, For the rest of May, Ozzigold.com has reduced it's entry-level service fee. A service fee of 6.5% is now added to each order of e-gold. Thankyou. Regards, www.ozzigold.com. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Same 'ol
Bob wrote: The Republican promise reneged -- by Jacob Halbrooks For years the Republicans have been promising less government and lower taxes, but with control of Congress and now the White House, they have not delivered. Halbrooks explains why they are not honoring, and will never honor, this promise. (05/01) http://www.geocities.com/libertarian_press/republicans.html They must be at it again (since the beginning of this year): U.S. Money Growth: Words Unnecessary http://www.goldensextant.com/commentary16.html#anchor84178 It takes a while to load, but worth the wait. Bush is probably the most libertarian leader that could currently be electable. He has already done a lot of very sensible things - dropping kyoto, relaxing green blocks on power production, scuppering the OECD all your money are belong to us initiative, etc. Enemy of my enemy, and don't look gift horses in the mouth. For the moment at least. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Same 'ol
Enemy of my enemy, and don't look gift horses in the mouth. For the moment at least. Agreed. Dubya is at least good enough for government work, as my dad used to say. Every year hundreds of people hurt themselves tripping over shoelaces that aren't properly tied. If Algore had been elected there would probably already be a multibillion-dollar Department of Shoe-Tying, most likely with bipartisan support, to spend a mountain of cash on Shoe-Tying Awareness. Okay, maybe not. But the DST is less looney than some of Algore's real proposals and at least slightly more looney than Dubya's most left-leaning ideas. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Same 'ol
Julian Morrison wrote: Bob wrote: The Republican promise reneged -- by Jacob Halbrooks For years the Republicans have been promising less government and lower taxes, but with control of Congress and now the White House, they have not delivered. Halbrooks explains why they are not honoring, and will never honor, this promise. (05/01) http://www.geocities.com/libertarian_press/republicans.html They must be at it again (since the beginning of this year): U.S. Money Growth: Words Unnecessary http://www.goldensextant.com/commentary16.html#anchor84178 It takes a while to load, but worth the wait. Bush is probably the most libertarian leader that could currently be electable. He has already done a lot of very sensible things - dropping kyoto, Good. relaxing green blocks on power production, The latest I read is the Artic is now off limits (again) to new oil production. He reneged again. scuppering the OECD all your money are belong to us initiative, etc. Scuppered not. The battle isn't won yet. The OECD is taking a new tack. Enemy of my enemy, and don't look gift horses in the mouth. For the moment at least. Well, I stretched my brain as far as possible to see Bush as a gift horse, and couldn't pull off that feat. Gift horse: as in getting something for nothing? I don't believe I can get something for nothing. Particularly from a politician or a government. He's just about as far from Libertarianism as Gore is. Bob -- http://www.bearerinstruments.com A Directory of Web sites and Internet presences accepting non-fiat monies. http://www.bearerinstruments.com/assets/BIMDsPGPkey.txt 650C 51DA 734F 697F 5706 3D6A 7712 BCC9 D1AE 00BA --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords
Subject: Sierra Times: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:25:41 -0400 From: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Digital Bearer Settlement List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Title of Nobility indeed... ;-). Cheers, RAH http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/may/11/geddc051101.htm An Internet Publication For Real Americans Home Editorials Commentary Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords by Don Cline 05.11.01 BANKS Bank of America has now arbitrarily decided, like Citibank before it, that it will not provide merchant services to any firearm-related business. Citibank finally rescinded that stupid tyranny after half the people in this country raised hell and threatened to close their accounts and the same groundswell of opinion must be brought to bear against Bank of America. However, there is more to it than that. We have here one of the most dangerous tyrannies our nation has ever faced. We are, literally, right on the hairy edge of a government-sanctioned plan where you get with the political program designed for you or you don't eat or pay rent. There are three separate threads of tyranny coming together here. For some time now, Bank of America (and most other banks) have required a fingerprint of any non-accountholder who wanted to cash a check -- specifically, a payroll check. They claim, falsely, they need to do this to stop check fraud. The claim is false because it is very easy to stop check fraud -- but they won't employ the means to do it because if they did, they wouldn't have any grounds to force electronic money down our throats or demand a fingerprint as a condition of cashing a paper check. I talked to the retired FBI agent who designed this inkless fingerprint system the banks are using to force us into their system. I pointed out that requiring a fingerprint from me as a condition of cashing a payroll check and thereby providing me with my own property lawfully due me -- my wages, in legal tender -- was a direct and egregious violation of many of my rights. First of all, the fingerprint is not used for identification. It is merely kept on file in case the check turns out to be fraudulent. That is the very definition of a warrantless and a priori restraint on my rights to privacy and due process in the absence of probable cause of wrong-doing. Secondly, I have a right to my property -- my wages -- and this is a violation of my right to receive my property lawfully due me. Thirdly, this is twice a violation of my right to be secure from impairment of contract -- once a violation of the contract between myself and my employer in which he agrees to pay me for my services and once because the purpose of this is to force me to open a bank account, thereby becoming subject to the surveillance of my financial affairs afforded by the Bank Secrecy Act. The retired FBI agent dismissed all that with the statement that he didn't care; all he was doing was supplementing his government retirement by designing this program for the banks. Then he said, Anyway, your fingerprints are already all over this payroll check. Why do you care if we require you to put your fingerprint on it before we cash it? If my fingerprints are all over the check, why do you need me to put my fingerprint on it? I asked in reply. Oh, uh, well ... he hemmed and hawed, because it has to be voluntary, he admitted. Uh-huh. It has to be voluntary so that a few years from now when all of our fingerprints are loaded into a database and we no longer have any financial privacy at all, we can't complain about it because we volunteered now. Right? Well ... I can't get into that. He terminated our conversation and walked away. Two years after the fingerprint program started, they tightened the noose. Suddenly you had to give a fingerprint and show two forms of identification, both of which had to be from an approved list. Every form of identification on that approved list was a bank card of some kind with the exception that a department store membership card was acceptable as one of the two forms of identification. A year later they tightened the noose still further. Now you need a fingerprint, two forms of identification from an approved list and you need to pay a fee to collect your own wages in legal tender. Now, guess what...all the alternative methods of cashing your payroll check, such as supermarket customer service kiosks, are now refusing cash checks at all. They have now installed RPM machines where you have to punch in your government-issued serial number (Social Security Number) so they can look at your credit history. The machine then takes your digital picture so they can identify you in a crowd at the next Super Bowl, you insert your check and punch in the amount and it gives you the cash -- less a 1.75% (minimum) processing fee rounded off to the next highest dollar because the
[e-gold-list] Re: Same 'ol
Bob wrote: relaxing green blocks on power production, The latest I read is the Artic is now off limits (again) to new oil production. He reneged again. Nah. At most he'll greenwash it. Al G. woulda slapped in nationwide price fixing, and tried to force the electricity industry to employ unionized workers by the thousands to pedal their way to power generation on excercise bikes. Or made public power contribution and healthy excercise pedalling compulsory by every household. Or just plain told everyone to go back to horse-and-buggy and hand-waved fans. scuppering the OECD all your money are belong to us initiative, etc. Scuppered not. The battle isn't won yet. The OECD is taking a new tack. But Bush is their enemy - he sees plainly enough that the USA is the worlds biggest tax haven and stands the most in harm's way. Enemy of my enemy, and don't look gift horses in the mouth. For the moment at least. Well, I stretched my brain as far as possible to see Bush as a gift horse, and couldn't pull off that feat. Gift horse: as in getting something for nothing? I don't believe I can get something for nothing. Particularly from a politician or a government. Gift horse as in: getting a helluva lot more than anyone could have expected. Most politicians would have handwaved kyoto through and at most stalled the ratification. Most would have compromised away the tax cut idea into a blatant tax raise plus handouts for their good buddies. Most would have dropped the missile protection thing by now. Modulo the deliberate weakness of the executive in a checks-and-blances system, Bush basically seems to have taken the I said it so I'll do it attitude that's normally only prevalent in politicians with no chance of ever getting a chance to do. He's just about as far from Libertarianism as Gore is. That's silly. Nobody could say the Moon is only a short walk away, but it's still kinda near compared to Andromeda. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Metal Escrow Prices!
Hello All Aussie and Kiwi e-golders, Remember, Metal-Escrow only charges 6% for all orders and we fund your e-gold within 24 hours of your deposit clearing in our account. We accept cash into our ANZ account or you can pay us using your internet banking pay anyone facility! After the 3rd order, repeat customers still get our special rate of 5%! We look forward to being of service to you! Regards, Sidd. http://metal-escrow.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords
Much nastyness. But in any free enough system, bypassing all that cruft carries a competitive advantage. I predict by 2020 fiat money will be an amusing anachronism. I also predict laws will try to put the genie back in the bottle between now and then - I hope e-gold, goldmoney etc have taken steps to guard themselves against any local (or UN/OECD/etc international) sneaky confiscation attempts and ownership bans. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords
I predict by 2020 fiat money will be an amusing anachronism. Remember JPM's last stats contest? http://www.mail-archive.com/e-gold-list@talk.e-gold.com/msg03208.html If e-gold continues to grow at the phenomenal rate it has had for the past 2 years, e-gold's usage will match that of the Swiss France in 2 years (May 2003). This same growth rate will have e-gold's usage match that of the US Dollar in early 2005. Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.2cw.org/VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords
Viking Coder wrote: I predict by 2020 fiat money will be an amusing anachronism. Remember JPM's last stats contest? http://www.mail-archive.com/e-gold-list@talk.e-gold.com/msg03208.html If e-gold continues to grow at the phenomenal rate it has had for the past 2 years, e-gold's usage will match that of the Swiss France in 2 years (May 2003). This same growth rate will have e-gold's usage match that of the US Dollar in early 2005. My pessimism in estimate is basically allowing for thieving-bastard laws trying to ban or tax or hyper-regulate e-gold, plus the rather broad cultural gap between popular online and popular offline. That is unless e-gold can bridge that gap early and grow fast enough to do an end-run around the legislatures. They'll know they're safe at last when it reaches the point where giving them grief would trigger an instant no-confidence recession. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords
My pessimism in estimate is basically allowing for thieving-bastard laws trying to ban or tax or hyper-regulate e-gold, plus the rather broad cultural gap between popular online and popular offline. That is unless e-gold can bridge that gap early and grow fast enough to do an end-run around the legislatures. They'll know they're safe at last when it reaches the point where giving them grief would trigger an instant no-confidence recession. The credit card companies have one thing over e-gold that will make it hard to break into the popular offline group; namely, credit. You can use your credit card without having the money on hand; can't do that with e-gold. Though that would be a strange turn of events... if the credit card companies noticed/accepted e-gold and adapted their systems to work with e-gold. It would only be a little different than the fractional reserve currencies (such as digigold, and standard reserve's future offering). To get the popular offline group will mean recruiting the merchants before recruiting the consumers. Is anybody working on a POS (point of service) terminal to allow (somewhat) offline e-gold transactions to occur? This could be as simple as hooking a PDA up to a wireless modem, or a PCS cell phone. Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.2cw.org/VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords
- Original Message - From: Viking Coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 1:35 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords I predict by 2020 fiat money will be an amusing anachronism. Remember JPM's last stats contest? http://www.mail-archive.com/e-gold-list@talk.e-gold.com/msg03208.html If e-gold continues to grow at the phenomenal rate it has had for the past 2 years, e-gold's usage will match that of the Swiss France in 2 years (May 2003). This same growth rate will have e-gold's usage match that of the US Dollar in early 2005. Viking Coder This is a very good reason to suspect that the rates of growth of the last two years should not be projected forward for the next 5 or 20. e-gold will face stiff competition from USD denominated private currencies offering instant clearing payments, privacy and non-reversable payments. Ditto for the euro. The move seems clear: domestic sourced income can be taxed at source, domestic consumption can be taxed at point of sale/value adding or import, but the spending of money and holding of financial assets will offer greater and greater privacy, as individuals transfer funds easily and cheaply from non-private employment/wage earnings and bank accounts to private financial systems. Thus all financial capital will be the same, foreign and domestic, because domestic capital can be turned into foreign capital look-alike capital, and then spent without a trace. Foreign sourced income will become untaxed reasonably soon in most countries, and thus governments will raise revenue from: 1. taxation of wage income at source (or on payrolls) in the formal economy 2. taxation of company/business income derived from the economy 3. taxation of sales of goods and services (i.e. GST and VAT and sales taxes) These taxes will not be able to cover or collect all income earned or all spending, but it is difficult to hide any thing but small business and casual labour. Thus governments may in fact provide exemption of casual transactions and the revenues of very small businesses. The inefficiencies of these exemptions could be minimised by the use of GST, because the vast bulk of output goes through the formal economy. e.g. suppose there was a GST of 10% which applies to businesses with turnover of $200 000 or more per year, and to importers importing over $200 000 p.a. This means individuals directly importing goods (e.g. internet purchases) will be exempt, but the lost revenue involved will be small because this will never be even a moderate proportin of consumption. It means small time traders will be exempt, but again this would only exempt a small fraction of consumption. Many very small businesses and contractors, provide the bulk of their services to larger businesses in the formal economy. So while they will not charge GST, their customers cannot claim any back from them. Thus because most goods/services go through businesses turning over difficult to hide sums, exemptions on low turnover businesses costs little revenue, while freeing small businesses and individuals from both disclosure and compliance costs. By comparison income taxation is more difficult to to intnroduce disclosure exemptions without causing larger losses of revenue and distortions to the structure of production and consumption (i.e. production by smaller businesses to avoid taxation). Income taxation is also venerable to transfer pricing and other means of minimising/avoiding/evading, and requires depreciation calculations and can be livied at different rates on different sources of income. I therefore predict that income taxation will be cut right back, in particular, foreign sourced income will not be taxed at all, income taxation systems will be flatter, deductables will only be available via refunds from the tax office (perhaps on a monthly basis), corporate taxation will be low and flat. The typical OECD country in 2020 might impost a 10% GST with a substantial reporting exemption for low turnover businesses (e.g. 3-5 times the average wage), a 10% corporate income tax and a 10% personal income tax, with a deductable of about half the average wage. Wage and interest income would be taxed at a uniform 10% regardless of source and the tax office would estimate each month the income and refund the appropriate amount. This type of system might raise about 15% of GDP, with land tax raising another 3% of GDP for local government and moderate taxes on tobacco and alcohol raising another 1% or so. Total government spending would be a shade under 20% of GDP. David Hillary --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords
- Original Message - From: Viking Coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:21 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Banks, Guns, and Feudal Lords My pessimism in estimate is basically allowing for thieving-bastard laws trying to ban or tax or hyper-regulate e-gold, plus the rather broad cultural gap between popular online and popular offline. That is unless e-gold can bridge that gap early and grow fast enough to do an end-run around the legislatures. They'll know they're safe at last when it reaches the point where giving them grief would trigger an instant no-confidence recession. The credit card companies have one thing over e-gold that will make it hard to break into the popular offline group; namely, credit. You can use your credit card without having the money on hand; can't do that with e-gold. Though that would be a strange turn of events... if the credit card companies noticed/accepted e-gold and adapted their systems to work with e-gold. It would only be a little different than the fractional reserve currencies (such as digigold, and standard reserve's future offering). To get the popular offline group will mean recruiting the merchants before recruiting the consumers. Is anybody working on a POS (point of service) terminal to allow (somewhat) offline e-gold transactions to occur? This could be as simple as hooking a PDA up to a wireless modem, or a PCS cell phone. Viking Coder The way to make e-gold to offer credit is to provide more than currency, i.e. brokerage accounts. Thus individuals would hold shares and other financial assets, and some proportion of what is held could be lent, e.g. 40%. This could be used as personal credit or for purchases. David Hillary --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Citibank and HYIPs
Suggestion: Why don't all those who owe Citibank via personal or business loans or credit cards write or call them and explain that, as gun owners and shooting enthusiasts, they will be only too happy to blacklist Citibank and not pay back their loans. Also, ring them up from a payphone and ask whether their security guards are going to stop carrying firearms, and ask if they can find out when this policy is going to take effect, because you and some friends are quite interested. Incidentally, this example of a classic real-life HYIP/Ponzi is worth a peruse http://www.smh.com.au/news/0105/18/pageone/pageone7.html I post stories like this every day to my weblog http://leviathan.weblogs.com For those interested. Text: Steiner school families lose millions to shady investor When Peter Krack, the man in the white shoes, spun his tales of huge profits, some people believed him. Now they have lost everything, writes Paul Barry. A group of Australian investors has lost millions of dollars by sending money offshore to a man promising returns of up to 1200 per cent a year. The self-styled investment guru Peter Krack vowed he would make them rich, solve their financial problems and bring them freedom. Instead, he appears to have wiped out their life savings. People in the United States, Germany, Holland and Switzerland have also lost millions of dollars in what looks like a huge financial scam. Almost all the Australian investors met Krack through the Rudolf Steiner movement, which has some 40 schools in Australia and about 800 worldwide. Many went to seminars he gave at Steiner House in Sydney or Samford Valley School in Brisbane in 1995 and 1998. The rest heard about Krack through friends in the Steiner movement, even though it did not officially sanction him, and trusted him because of it. It is not clear how many people sent Krack their hard-earned money, but one Brisbane family will lose at least $450,000 if their investment is not repaid. Another family in northern NSW is facing a loss of $350,000, and a German investor has waved goodbye to more than $US600,000 ($1.1 million). In addition, the Herald understands that three Swiss investors have lost between 50,000 ($55,000) and several million Swiss francs. Ms Sally Wilson, a Sydney nurse who sent Krack $150,000 in October 1997 on the promise of a more modest 24 per cent annual return, did not meet the man who calls himself an international financial investment adviser until two months after she had parted with her money. If I'd seen him first, I would never have invested, she said this week. He had white shoes and a white suit, and I knew at once that I didn't like him. But invest she did, along with many others. A fax from Peter Krack assured her that it was a good, immediate and secured investment. And since her friend Ms Diane Watkin, who runs the Michael School in Leichhardt, was already an enthusiastic supporter of Krack's, she decided to risk it for three months. She had just sold her home in Balgowlah and converted all her worldly goods into cash. On Krack's instructions, Ms Wilson sent $150,000 - almost everything she had - to an account at the Bank Romania in Bucharest. It was the last she ever saw of it. In February 1998, when she tried to get the money back, all she got from Krack was excuses. Three years later, she still hasn't received a cent, she is living in rented accommodation, and rues her mistake: It sounded good to be true, and it was. Ms Wilson has complained to the Australian Securities and Investments Commission and the NSW Fraud Squad, but both have told her they can do nothing. Another Sydney woman who entrusted her savings to Krack sent $10,000 offshore in two separate transfers - the first in 1996 to an account at a bank in Monaco, the second in 1998 to a bank in Liechtenstein. She, too, has been unable to get it back. Three times, Krack has promised her a payment.Three times his promises have come to nothing. I guess I was naive and gullible, but I thought I might make $30,000 and I really needed the money, she said. Peter Krack first came to Australia in August 1995 with glowing tributes from a Hungarian author, Georg Kuhlewind, a highly respected figure in the Steiner movement, which believes in bio-dynamic farming and an arts-centred, nature-based, curative education. Potential investors in Australia were told that Krack had solved the financial problems of Hungary's Waldorf schools by using his investment skills to make millions. Here, it was promised, he could do the same, and make money for cash-strapped parents, too. He would be their Robin Hood, stealing from the rich to give to the poor. And he would help them do good, because part of their profits would go to Steiner schools. In Sydney, about 50 people turned up to hear him speak. In Brisbane, he attracted a similar crowd. Newsletters followed from local enthusiasts,