[e-gold-list] Re: Funbonds
>>Yes, I've done quite well with funbonds over the last year. They're >>especially good to stop you gambling all your money away at one, as >>they pay you a return every 24 hours for 10 days. >> >Ben, how often do you find you win, overall, on a given bond? Personally, I have always made a profit on the bonds. Of course, I have sometimes lost the proceeds of the bonds straight away, but other times I have banked several times the dividend! >Do you find "timing" it by trying to eg. include weekends or >whatever, makes any difference, or is it irrelevant? They say that makes a difference, but I haven't noticed much of a pattern. There are busy days and less busy days. I suspect downtime at e-gold or other online casinos makes a difference, but a lot of the traffic seems to coincide with people buying bonds. >Have you noticed the price of the bonds is slowing rising over the months (it should if its all working correctly). About 4 grams these days right? It rises up to a point, usually when the bonds mature, then drops back down. I suspect a lot of the traffic is generated by the bond holders trying to boost the value of their bonds by playing lotsw of small hands of blackjack. Last time I had some i bought them variously between 3 and 5 grams. By the time my cycle finished they were around 7 grams each! >Do you spread out your purchases or buy them in a pile? Depends how much e-gold I have to spare! I buy cheap (for obvious reasons) then they go up as more people get interested and start to buy more of them. Ideally I like to try and use the daily dividend to win enough to buy another bond (or three), which is quite a positive way to gamble I find. >Perhaps you could start a mutual fund where you manage people's investments in gold bonds :) Heh, with some of the returns offered by some operators, it would be very hard to compete :-> >>Join the gold casino, if only to compare it to other real-life or >>virtual establishments. The other day I got 3 blackjacks in a row! >>How often has that happened at a real-world casino??? >> >>http://www.thegoldcasino.com/win.cgi?9784630 Oh, and I forgot to mention that thegoldcasino sometimes 'compensates' you for blowing your dough. I have had .5, 1.5 and several times 2.5 grams credited the day after I've done my dough. It's a nice incentive to get you back. Check out my daily webpage http://leviathan.weblogs.com Stock tips? XXX passwords? Naked pictures of my sister? None of those but informative nonetheless. New Books at Discount Prices --- Send the right message --- + Today freemail + Get your free, private email address at http://www.today.com.au --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Gold Money's New Handshaking Protocol
Snowdog, What I like also is their new support for client digital certificates. It will block any hacker who succeed in obtaining your password. I hope e-gold will implement a few of these features in their next version. On 6 Jun 2001, at 0:16, SnowDog wrote: > I LOVE GoldMoney's new hand-shaking protocol. It is exactly what I > have been suggesting to E-Gold for the past year. You can send a > payment by generating a 'key'. For the payment to be complete, this > key must be emailed to the receiver and then the receiver must > 'redeem' the payment. > > This is great. GoldMoney Exchange Services need never worry about > sending a payment to the wrong account! Without using this protocol, > it is possible to accidentally send gold to an incorrect account. Now, > since the receiver MUST redeem the payment with the randomly generated > key, this worry is overcome. Moreover, the sender can revoke the 'key' > if he made the payment in error, as long as he does it before the > receiver redeems it. > > SnowDog > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To > unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Claude http://www.goldcurrencies.ca http://www.ormetal.com == Claude Cormier Public Key http://www.ormetal.com/PGPkey.html == --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Gold Money's New Handshaking Protocol
I LOVE GoldMoney's new hand-shaking protocol. It is exactly what I have been suggesting to E-Gold for the past year. You can send a payment by generating a 'key'. For the payment to be complete, this key must be emailed to the receiver and then the receiver must 'redeem' the payment. This is great. GoldMoney Exchange Services need never worry about sending a payment to the wrong account! Without using this protocol, it is possible to accidentally send gold to an incorrect account. Now, since the receiver MUST redeem the payment with the randomly generated key, this worry is overcome. Moreover, the sender can revoke the 'key' if he made the payment in error, as long as he does it before the receiver redeems it. SnowDog --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] PGP
Subject: FC: Happy Birthday, PGP! Ten year anniversary of v1.0 release today Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:06:07 -0400 From: Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,44324,00.html PGP: Happy Birthday to You By Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 3:40 p.m. June 5, 2001 PDT WASHINGTON -- Phil Zimmermann became the world's first cyberspace hero 10 years ago this week. In a move that transformed the way Internet users viewed privacy and made him the target of a federal criminal probe, Zimmermann released Pretty Good Privacy on June 5, 1991. For the first time, PGP allowed PC users to encode their files and e-mail messages using state of the art encryption algorithms. While the clunky, buggy PGP 1.0 had its problems -- Zimmermann didn't know it at the time, but the original version was vulnerable to crypto-savvy codebreakers -- it was still far more popular than even the most optimistic observers could have imagined. "Little did I realize what a feeding frenzy PGP would set off. Apparently, there was a lot of pent-up demand for a tool like this," said Zimmermann, 47, in an e-mail message distributed Tuesday. The 1.0 version included source code -- a bare-all approach that quickly became a PGP trademark -- and only worked on MS-DOS computers. Macintosh and Unix versions came later. By the time version 2.0 was released in September 1992, Zimmermann had earned the enmity of RSA Data Security, which owned a patent that PGP arguably infringed upon, and the adoration of thousands of grassroots users who finally had a reliable, if not especially convenient, way to preserve the privacy of their e-mail conversations. [...] --- http://www.politechbot.com/docs/pgp.anniversary.060501.html Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 12:37:58 -0700 To: Declan McCullagh From: Philip Zimmermann Subject: PGP Marks 10 Year Anniversary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Today marks the 10th anniversary of the release of PGP 1.0. It was on this day in 1991 that I sent the first release of PGP to a couple of my friends for uploading to the Internet. First, I sent it to Allan Hoeltje, who posted it to Peacenet, an ISP that specialized in grassroots political organizations, mainly in the peace movement. Peacenet was accessible to political activists all over the world. Then, I uploaded it to Kelly Goen, who proceeded to upload it to a Usenet newsgroup that specialized in distributing source code. At my request, he marked the Usenet posting as "US only". Kelly also uploaded it to many BBS systems around the country. I don't recall if the postings to the Internet began on June 5th or 6th. It may be surprising to some that back in 1991, I did not yet know enough about Usenet newsgroups to realize that a "US only" tag was merely an advisory tag that had little real effect on how Usenet propagated newsgroup postings. I thought it actually controlled how Usenet routed the posting. But back then, I had no clue how to post anything on a newsgroup, and didn't even have a clear idea what a newsgroup was. It was a hard road to get to the release of PGP. I missed five mortgage payments developing the software in the first half of 1991. To add to the stress, a week before PGP's first release, I discovered the existence of another email encryption standard called Privacy Enhanced Mail (PEM), which was backed by several big companies, as well as RSA Data Security. I didn't like PEM's design, for several reasons. PEM used 56-bit DES to encrypt messages, which I did not regards as strong cryptography. Also, PEM absolutely required every message to be signed, and revealed the signature outside the encryption envelope, so that the message did not have to be decrypted to reveal who signed it. Nonetheless, I was distressed to learn of the existence of PEM only one week before PGP's release. How could I be so out of touch to fail to notice something as important as PEM? I guess I just had my head down too long, writing code. I fully expected PEM to crush PGP, and even briefly considered not releasing PGP, since it might be futile in the face of PEM and its powerful backers. But I decided to press ahead, since I had come this far already, and besides, I knew that my design was better aligned with protecting the privacy of users. After releasing PGP, I immediately diverted my attention back to consulting work, to try to get caught up on my mortgage payments. I thought I could just release PGP 1.0 for MSDOS, and leave it alone for awhile, and let people play with it. I thought I could get back to it later, at my leisure. Little did I realize what a feeding frenzy PGP would set off. Apparently, there was a lot of pent-up demand for a tool like this. Volunteers from around the world were
[e-gold-list] Re: Heap of Gold / E-Gold Problems.....................
> This is utter, total bullshit. > > What a heap of "shit". > > There is no question that "heap of gold" (what a fucking name), were > a bunch of fucking sloppy losers. > > It's appalling that anyone who is such a pile of slop could dare to > say they are in business, far less exchanging money for gold. > > Don't like it -- SUE ME. I'll take you to court in any jurisdiction > and demonstrate that Heap of Gold are a bunch of fucking sloppy > losers. > > THERE IS ONE WAY "HEAP OF GOLD" LOST THEIR GOLD -- VIA LOSING > THEIR PASSWORD. > > I swear to god, there needs to be a vigilante group that goes around > and beats the fucking SHIT out of sloppy losers who call themselves > market makers and cause all this chaos. Come on, J.P., tell us how you really feel! Don't hold anything back. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Keyboard Sniffers et al
> It takes up no > system resources, i.e. undetectable from a software viewpoint, _No_ system resources? Nice work if you can get it. How is this possible? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Invitation from Sani Holidays
that's astounding! good one. >Dear member list, > I have good news for you interested to take holidays in >LOMBOK ISLAND. Now Sani Holidays achivee e-gold as payment. > >Please read the following lines for reference. > >regards, >m.khairul bahri > > Dear Mr. M Khairul Bahri, > > Greetings from Sani Holidays, www.saniholidays.com - > Your Travel Agent to LOMBOK ISLAND. > > Sani Holidays offering hotel accomodation in LOMBOK > ISLAND, including SENGGIGI, GILI ISLANDS AND > KUTA-LOMBOK. > With us you can prepare your holiday within 24 hours. > Why we can be the fastest one ?. Because now we accept > e-gold as our payment method. > > Thank your for your attention. > > Kind regards, > Sitti Sani Nurhayati > Sani Holidays - Your Travel Agent to Lombok Island > email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >-- >Email ini dikirim oleh PlasaCom : http://www.plasa.com >Kunjungi teman lama anda di KSI : http://ksi.plasa.com >-- --- "Great ventures create great mottos." --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Heap of Gold / E-Gold Problems.....................
>Hello Everyone, > >Has everyone gotten satisfaction from Heap of Gold regarding >the security breach at E-gold / Omnipay ? > >I can't recommend them until this is 100% resolved. > >Steven > >- > >The E-Gold system has suffered a security breach of their system. This is utter, total bullshit. What a heap of "shit". There is no question that "heap of gold" (what a fucking name), were a bunch of fucking sloppy losers. It's appalling that anyone who is such a pile of slop could dare to say they are in business, far less exchanging money for gold. Don't like it -- SUE ME. I'll take you to court in any jurisdiction and demonstrate that Heap of Gold are a bunch of fucking sloppy losers. THERE IS ONE WAY "HEAP OF GOLD" LOST THEIR GOLD -- VIA LOSING THEIR PASSWORD. I swear to god, there needs to be a vigilante group that goes around and beats the fucking SHIT out of sloppy losers who call themselves market makers and cause all this chaos. >We are no longer a >market maker for E-Gold and cannot in good faith recommend use of this system. > >We have returned the portion of your funds that were not taken >during the breach of >the E-Gold system. E-Gold has the remainder of your funds. E-Gold >tracked the hackers >in their system and seized the funds. To date they have been >unwilling to return the >stolen funds per their own policy. If we received the funds back >from E-Gold we will >forward the remainder of your funds back to you. > > > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Great ventures create great mottos." --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Parker Bradley -- awesome!
"C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc." wrote: > > On 6 Jun 2001, at 0:42, Julian Morrison wrote: > > > wonder how long 'til they run out, if they carry on playing silly > > buggers with gold prices? > > Experts estimations are that the CB's are pretty much done with > the leasing at current gold prices. They are starting to understand > what mess they have created and what consequences they are > about to go through. If they've been sitting on the price and they run right out... should be amusing to watch. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Parker Bradley -- awesome!
On 6 Jun 2001, at 0:42, Julian Morrison wrote: > wonder how long 'til they run out, if they carry on playing silly > buggers with gold prices? Experts estimations are that the CB's are pretty much done with the leasing at current gold prices. They are starting to understand what mess they have created and what consequences they are about to go through. Claude http://www.goldcurrencies.ca http://www.ormetal.com == Claude Cormier Public Key http://www.ormetal.com/PGPkey.html == --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Parker Bradley -- awesome!
"C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc." wrote: > > > And I wonder how > > much is in central bank vaults, > > Roughly 33,000 tons... in theory. A lot of it has been leased, > melted and sold on the market. I wonder how long 'til they run out, if they carry on playing silly buggers with gold prices? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Invitation from Sani Holidays
Dear member list, I have good news for you interested to take holidays in LOMBOK ISLAND. Now Sani Holidays achivee e-gold as payment. Please read the following lines for reference. regards, m.khairul bahri Dear Mr. M Khairul Bahri, Greetings from Sani Holidays, www.saniholidays.com - Your Travel Agent to LOMBOK ISLAND. Sani Holidays offering hotel accomodation in LOMBOK ISLAND, including SENGGIGI, GILI ISLANDS AND KUTA-LOMBOK. With us you can prepare your holiday within 24 hours. Why we can be the fastest one ?. Because now we accept e-gold as our payment method. Thank your for your attention. Kind regards, Sitti Sani Nurhayati Sani Holidays - Your Travel Agent to Lombok Island email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Email ini dikirim oleh PlasaCom : http://www.plasa.com Kunjungi teman lama anda di KSI : http://ksi.plasa.com -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Ingrid in a Hat! :-)
Hi Folks Just to let you know that there is now a picture on VW Online of our VW Online Beanie Hats (Being worn by the ever lovely Ingrid). Go to http://www.vw-online.co.uk/htdocs/merchandise.htm We only have three Ladies T Shirts left, so if you were thinking about it, don't think order one today! BTW Next Merchandise order also gets a copy of the "uncropped" image of the Beanie Hat picture ;-) Kind Regards Geoff Wiltshire Web: http://www.altimaweb.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Heap of Gold / E-Gold Problems.....................
Hello Everyone, Has everyone gotten satisfaction from Heap of Gold regarding the security breach at E-gold / Omnipay ? I can't recommend them until this is 100% resolved. Steven - The E-Gold system has suffered a security breach of their system. We are no longer a market maker for E-Gold and cannot in good faith recommend use of this system. We have returned the portion of your funds that were not taken during the breach of the E-Gold system. E-Gold has the remainder of your funds. E-Gold tracked the hackers in their system and seized the funds. To date they have been unwilling to return the stolen funds per their own policy. If we received the funds back from E-Gold we will forward the remainder of your funds back to you. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Keyboard Sniffers et al
> Trojan lets cyber-cops plant bogus evidence > By Thomas C Greene in Washington > Posted: 04/06/2001 at 09:36 GMT > > A new tool of Fascist control, with which law-enforcement agents can = > secretly monitor the entire range of a suspect's computer activity, has = > been developed by self-proclaimed 'computer surveillance experts' Codex = > Data Systems, according to a document sent to Cryptome.org.=20 > The same company also makes a hardware keystroke logger. It takes up no system resources, i.e. undetectable from a software viewpoint, and catches every single keystoke, including BIOS passwords. However, it's not as easy to distribute because it requires physical access to the computer to plant and to retrieve. Which makes it great for office managers who a BIG feeling of BROTHERly love for their employees. http://www.codexdatasystems.com/keykatch.html Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.2cw.org/VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Keyboard Sniffers et al
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19404.html Trojan lets cyber-cops plant bogus evidence By Thomas C Greene in Washington Posted: 04/06/2001 at 09:36 GMT A new tool of Fascist control, with which law-enforcement agents can secretly monitor the entire range of a suspect's computer activity, has been developed by self-proclaimed 'computer surveillance experts' Codex Data Systems, according to a document sent to Cryptome.org. The source here is a PowerPoint slide show, presumably by Codex PR bunnies, boasting of D.I.R.T.'s amazing capabilities to violate in secret the last vestiges of civil protections from state oppression. "Imagine being able to remotely monitor any PC in the world anytime you want," the company taunts. "Suppose you could read every keystroke... Access and retrieve any file from the hard drive without having physical access... No more secrets..." The company slide show is carefully crafted to generate maximum suspense among Feds and cops straining to find ways around such regrettable obstacles as civil rights. Thus a series of 'scenarios' guaranteed to get the oppressive juices flowing: Scenario: You want to execute an "Electronic No-Knock Search Warrant" by stealth via the Internet to allow surreptitious remote seizure of digital evidence. What do you use? Scenario: Your undercover online investigator makes contact with a suspected pedophile in a chat room. Suspect sends illegal image(s). You now have probable cause. You want to remotely monitor suspect and seize additional evidence from his computer. What do you use? Scenario: Your investigation has determined that your suspects are using strong encryption to protect themselves. You need to "crack" encrypted and/or password protected e-mail and stored files. You don't have the time or money for a "Brute Force attack. What do you use? The answer to all the above is, of course, D.I.R.T. And just what is D.I.R.T.? Why it's a Trojan, pure and simple, which the Feds can feed to targets surreptitiously. It has a point-and-drool GUI and so functions very much like SubSeven on steroids. It doesn't crack crypto; it simply logs keystrokes, including, obviously, the user's pass phrase. Crude, but effective. It also defeats all known firewalls, killing the running process, replacing the firewall icon, and allowing a stealth FTP connection. The D.I.R.T. client can be embedded in Word documents, Excel documents, PowerPoint presentations, RTF documents, Word Perfect documents, Autorun.bat on CD-ROMS and floppy disks, and, coming soon in a free upgrade, Lotus Suite, JavaScript and ActiveX. Better yet, "D.I.R.T. is user friendly and can be operated by investigators with minimal computer skills," we're told. Most grotesquely, it enables the Feds to plant bogus evidence on a suspect's computer. "Sending hidden code to the target PC is simple using the D.I.R.T. 'Bug Generator'. Investigators need not have special computer code writing skills. Just point and click." A true tool of Fascism if ever we heard of one. And get this: the company discusses it with pride. Getting around it Protecting yourself from this diabolical program won't be easy. First, you need to monitor your comp's processes. Anything persistent which you don't recognize/can't explain should result in an immediate re-format with files re-loaded from text-only sources. For *nix, see this document. For Windows, see this one. You should run Netstat regularly to monitor all of your active connections. And again, anything persistent which you don't recognize/can't explain should result in an immediate re-format with files re-loaded from text-only sources. A handy progie which will resolve strange IPs is the free version of the Patrick Project DNS utility. Curious domains can then be traced free and easily via SamSpade.org, which has heaps of useful CGI gateways. 9x corner If all this strikes you as too technical, then you must be running Win9x, and that means you'd better play it as safe as possible. This, we're sorry to say, means re-formatting on a regular basis, like once a month. Annoying and troublesome, we'll allow; but it's the only way for the technically challenged to prevail against D.I.R.T. In order to do this successfully, you should ditch every file you don't need during each re-format. Files you do need must first be saved to removable media in plain text with a non-formatting text editor (e.g., Windows Notepad); and you'll need to change your PGP pass phrase (not your key) each time as well. Now set up your '9x box lean and mean, as if you were a gamer. Go to C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSCONFIG.EXE and make a desktop icon for the progie. Activate it, click on the 'STARTUP' tab, kill everything you don't need and re-boot (do NOT kill EXPLORER or SYSTEM TRAY). This will make it easier to keep track of what you have running, and what you should have running, which you can occasionally check w
[e-gold-list] Re: [e-gold-list) Euro Gold Line price adjustments
Euro Gold line has made pricing adjustments for the summer months. Please visit our rates page to view them. http://www.eurogoldline.nl Thank you. Frank Euro Gold Line tel: +31-26-844-0113 fax: +31-26-844-0342 24/7 voice and fax = Get your free OSGold or e-gold account, visit our site and click on one of the buttons. http://www.eurogoldline.nl Need to manage your e-gold account? Compare our rates. Serving Europe, but available WORLDWIDE! http://www.eurogoldline.nl Want a debit card tied to your e-gold? http://www.cashcards.net/rep/23239 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Even More Gold
> > (c) get a job where you are paid in e-gold. > and... (d) Gambling. The Gold Casino is a great example of how to get, or more likely lose, e-gold. On the other side, far far away, of the scale of reliability are the HYIPs. However, you must have e-gold before you can gamble with it; leaving the above three options to initially get e-gold. But don't forget about thievery/social engineering. Our 'good friend' giacomo furlan, of e-Qold infamy, is an example of this. Viking Coder Worth Two Cents? http://www.2cw.org/VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
