[e-gold-list] Re: Fw: Re: E-Gold->UK exchange?

[jpm]

>> Yes that's true, but it applies equally to money orders. I used to run a =
>> mail order business and have taken tens of thousands of UK personal =
>> checks and I never once had anyone try that. Credit and debit cards, on =
>> the other hand, gave us chargeback problems all the time.=20
>
>However, a currency, or even just gold, provides a lot more incentive to
>fraudulent types than mail order things. e-gold can be exchanged for
>national currency instantly whereas mail order stuff must be re-sold,
>which entails much more hassle.
>

because of http://coconutgold.com/mayscale.html ...

>
>Viking Coder
>


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[e-gold-list] Re: Fw: Re: E-Gold->UK exchange?

[Viking Coder]

> Yes that's true, but it applies equally to money orders. I used to run a =
> mail order business and have taken tens of thousands of UK personal =
> checks and I never once had anyone try that. Credit and debit cards, on =
> the other hand, gave us chargeback problems all the time.=20

However, a currency, or even just gold, provides a lot more incentive to
fraudulent types than mail order things. e-gold can be exchanged for
national currency instantly whereas mail order stuff must be re-sold,
which entails much more hassle.


Viking Coder

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[e-gold-list] Re: Fw: Re: E-Gold->UK exchange?

[offshoresurfer]

> > I can't see a big problem with accepting personal cheques. You just 
> > don't give out the gold until the cheque clears (3 days in UK). 
> 
> Personal Checks can actually be cancelled, and payment taken back, up to 6
> months after it has cleared. Don't know the mechanics of such a
> transaction, but do know it is possible.

Yes that's true, but it applies equally to money orders. I used to run a mail order 
business and have taken tens of thousands of UK personal checks and I never once had 
anyone try that. Credit and debit cards, on the other hand, gave us chargeback 
problems all the time. 

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[e-gold-list] Re: Fw: Re: E-Gold->UK exchange?

[Viking Coder]

> I can't see a big problem with accepting personal cheques. You just 
> don't give out the gold until the cheque clears (3 days in UK). 

Personal Checks can actually be cancelled, and payment taken back, up to 6
months after it has cleared. Don't know the mechanics of such a
transaction, but do know it is possible.


Viking Coder

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[e-gold-list] Re: E-Gold->UK exchange?

[offshoresurfer]

> in GB. Whenever I receive a dollar commission cheque I find that most of it
> is swallowed up by transaction fees. Now, after opening PayPal and e-gold
> accounts I find that it's a devil of a job funding them. Dealers do not seem
> to want to accept GB personal cheques or credit cards - the most convenient
> payment methods. 

Why not just endorse your dollar cheques to one of the market makers and kill two 
birds with one stone? Goldchanger, for instance, accepts third party dollar cheques.

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[e-gold-list] Re: DIRT

[offshoresurfer]

> is sending to me updates (containing latest bugs in various systems and
> email software-it's a need for trojan injection) every week

Am I correct in understanding from this that if we stick to using web based email, we 
are safe?

offshoresurfer


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[e-gold-list] Fw: Re: E-Gold->UK exchange?

[offshoresurfer]

I can't see a big problem with accepting personal cheques. You just don't give out the 
gold until the cheque clears (3 days in UK). There are even ways of clearing cheques 
instantly if you want to pay extra. If you look at it that way, it's a 100% secure 
method of payment. 

I think the problem is more that there are no UK based MMs, therefore most MMs will 
incur international bank charges and mailing delays etc clearing such cheques. 

Credit cards on the other hand are a different issue as they carry a VERY substantial 
fraud risk.

offshoresurfer


- Original Message - 
From: Viking Coder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: e-gold Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:37 AM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: E-Gold->UK exchange?


> > Dealers do not seem to want to accept GB personal cheques or credit cards
> 
> It is not just GB personal checks or credit cards that MMs don't want.
> Most would prefer to not have anything to do with any personal checks or
> credit cards. Since they run their own business, they can pretty much do
> whatever they prefer.
> 
> www.goldnow.st
> GoldNow accepts credit cards. They charge a 15% fee. The extremely high
> fee is due to the added hassle and risk of fraud.
> 
> 
> > the most convenient payment methods
> 
> Also the most convenient to steal, fake, and/or cancel payment on;
> especially over national borders.
> 
> Is there not a single MM who is based in the UK?
> 
> 
> Viking Coder
> 
> Worth Two Cents?
> http://www.2cw.org/VikingCoder
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[e-gold-list] Re: E-Gold->UK exchange?

[Viking Coder]

> Dealers do not seem to want to accept GB personal cheques or credit cards

It is not just GB personal checks or credit cards that MMs don't want.
Most would prefer to not have anything to do with any personal checks or
credit cards. Since they run their own business, they can pretty much do
whatever they prefer.

www.goldnow.st
GoldNow accepts credit cards. They charge a 15% fee. The extremely high
fee is due to the added hassle and risk of fraud.


> the most convenient payment methods

Also the most convenient to steal, fake, and/or cancel payment on;
especially over national borders.

Is there not a single MM who is based in the UK?


Viking Coder

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[e-gold-list] Re: New e-gold exchanger - InstantGold

[Tristan Petersen]

>hello,
>
>Close but no Cigar!
>
>There are lots of market makers who have MUCH cheaper rates than you... At
>http://metal-escrow.com we fund your account for fees from 5% to 6%! Offhand
>I believe http://goldcurrencies.ca and many others also have comparable or
>lower rates.

And if you are looking for the absolute CHEAPEST way to convert from e-
gold to GoldGrams, Cambist.net Exchange Services is for you! Our fee is a
very reasonable 2%!

Visit http://www.cambist.net and exchange your digital gold currencies today!

Tristan Petersen
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[e-gold-list] Re: DIRT

[bulldog9]

Hi
I'm private investigator from Poland, and I've obtained the copy of this
software from Codex (for $3500 but what the hell it's worth it).Believe me
or not but this little thing (trojan file have only 20 KB) can easily invade
your system - without forcing you to open any email attachments !!! Codex -
is sending to me updates (containing latest bugs in various systems and
email software-it's a need for trojan injection) every week. I'm using this
system for about a year and I must say that I've earned tracking scams, and
cyberterrorists over $3. And I realize that Internet is in %100 spyied
by govs and others... IT'S NOT FAIR !!! That's why I want to sell a copy of
this soft to some real good programmer (Trojan is wrote in pure Assembler).
If you are interested or want some more info send me a note (use PGP).

Tom Rutkowski

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- Original Message -
From: "Viking Coder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:57 PM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: DIRT


> > Does anyone have the URL of the company that is marketing the privacy
> > invading trojan to law enforcement agencies?
> >
>
> http://www.codexdatasystems.com
>
> Watch the status bar of your browser (at the bottom of the screen) when
> you click into their site. A harmless javascript script that pretends to
> violate your privacy by searching your hard drive & downloading all of
> your files & even remotely formatting your hard drive.
>
> You can only obtain info on this software if you send them a request on
> your "agency letterhead". The only reason this is lawful is that they are
> selling it to the people who make the laws.
>
>
> Viking Coder
> 
> Worth Two Cents?
> http://www.2cw.org/VikingCoder
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[e-gold-list] Re: New e-gold exchanger - InstantGold

[Sidd]

hello,

Close but no Cigar!

There are lots of market makers who have MUCH cheaper rates than you... At
http://metal-escrow.com we fund your account for fees from 5% to 6%! Offhand
I believe http://goldcurrencies.ca and many others also have comparable or
lower rates.

Regards,

Sidd.


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Subject: [e-gold-list] New e-gold exchanger - InstantGold


|   Hello,
|
|
|
|   At http://InstantGold.8k.com you can fund your e-gold account by Western
Union. Cheapest transfers on the market ( for Western Union transactions ).
Fees down to 8%. Fast funding !
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[e-gold-list] Subject: eCurrency Trade Association.

[Michael Moore]

Revised and updated

THE GOLD ECONOMY COMES OF AGE!

Over  the past 5 years the gold economy has grown from a fledgling e-
gold  pioneered by two lawyers with a vision to an ever-expanding 
economy with more and more market makers, several gold account 
custodians, a host of merchants and many other associated businesses on 
the fringes. With a multi million dollar yearly turn over Gold is now 
used as a transactional medium for hundreds of uses.  You can purchase 
anything from coffee to computers,  pay your phone bill, invest or 
gamble, pay salaries or subscribe to periodicals.  Originally e-gold, 
as the pioneer in the field was the only gold supplier but now there 
are a variety of suppliers available and a big range of exchange 
providers, market makers and cambios to choose from.

It is expected that this economy will continue to grow by leaps and 
bounds over the coming years to become a significant influence in the 
world markets and, as a result of this, it has been recognized that a 
formal professional standard of operation and service by exchange 
providers, market makers and cambios should be put in place as part of 
the preparation for the expected expansion and new influx of clients.

There are currently about 30 Market Makers, Exchange Providers &  
Cambios (MMs, SPs &Cams) operating in the arena and it is now time to 
bring them under one umbrella and not only give them the support they 
deserve  but help them to provide a standard of operation for their 
clients of which 
they can be proud.  This does not mean that their individuality and 
style or  even their pricing structure or the healthy competitive 
spirit they enjoy will change. Quite the contrary.  It will lend them 
the support against fraud they need, give them the status they have 
earned and provide a  reliable source of business through the eCurrency 
Trade Association (eCTA) web site they desire. It will also satisfy the 
expectation of the public for a standard of ethical behavior and 
professional conduct they can rely on. 

The pioneering days are now over, the gold economy is an established 
fact and with  over a million dollars a day turnover it is time to move 
to the next stage.

This will be the eCurrency Trade Association Inc.

The Purposes of the eCurrency Trade Association include:

Provide and maintain a professional standard of ethics & guidelines  
for the eCurrency and gold economy within which each member can 
operate  securely and their rights may be protected in order to service 
their clients and customers and the gold economy effectively.

Maintain a high standard of entry to the Association.

Promote and maintain the highest professional standards of business 
conduct and practice among it's members

All remaining MMs, SPs & Cambios that have not yet applied for 
membership in the eCTA are invited to do so and to receive 
accreditation to demonstrate their bona  fide status to the world at 
large. Those who pass the application and the inspection of the Board 
of Directors will receive  their accreditation.  This application will 
need to be applied for on an  annual basis.  Currently we have 13 
Founding Members going through the accreditation process.

New customers and existing clients can expect  have their expectations 
met when they seek to find an MM or SP or Cambio whom they can 
securely  trust to provide the standard of service they are looking 
for.  They will be able to find accredited members on the eCurrency 
Trade Associations (eCTA)  web site, currently being developed, or 
alternatively look for the Seal of Accreditation on their existing 
providers site and, if that Seal is not present, perhaps seek a site 
which CAN display the Seal for their own security and peace of mind.

The Association has also included a purpose to seek out and expose 
scammers and those who intend to commit fraudulent acts within the 
gold  economy  With current and new process being put into place, the 
combined weight of the members, affiliated businesses  and contacts 
with the authorities, considerable success is expected in this quarter.

The advent of the eCTA  in the gold economy will be a boon for all.  
MarketMakers, Exchange Providers, Cambios, Gold Suppliers, Merchants, 
Service Providers and Clients alike.  It will set the future standard 
for the gold economy and will provide a criteria by which the economy 
can be judged and respected by the mainstream.  Customers will be able 
to confidently pick the Market Maker, Exchange Provider or Cambio of 
their choice knowing they have been carefully screened, have come up 
shining and have a Seal of Accreditation to show for it.  The Market 
Makers, Exchange Providers &
Cambios will have an association that supports them and gives them a 
status of respectability that encourages more business their way and  
finally, the Gold Suppliers will see an economy satisfactorily and 
stably expanding into the future mainstream.

This is what we mean when we say 

[e-gold-list] Re: US bank fees on international transfers

[Michael Moore]

In point of fact you will find that most banks in most countries will 
charge for their services.

Some charge heaps and some little,  depends on what the bank considers 
it can get away with.

No bank is going give away any services for nothing and anyone who 
thinks they will is naive.

The first principle of banks is to make a profit pure and simple.

If you understand that you will understand banks.


Kind regards,

michael
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- Original Message -
From: "C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, June 10, 2001 2:42 am
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: US bank fees on international transfers

> On 9 Jun 2001, at 4:29, Graham Kelly wrote:
> 
> > Well, guys, I've discovered that most US banks "extract" $10 USD for
> > an incoming wire...
> 
> I noticed that as well. Canadian Banks do same but on occasions. 
> I think that it depends either on the amount of the wire or the 
> presence or not of a corresponfong bank. One thing is sure, if 
> have 
> yet to obtain a clear explanation for this fee.
> 
> 
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Some of you may be interested to find out what 
happened to Donald English, a.k.a. the owner 
and chief operator of the now defunct E-BizVentures.

Surprisingly, some people maintain to this day that 
E-BizVentures was NOT a ponzi. If you feel this way, 
GET AN EDUCATION ...

Check out the article (including a picture) here:
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[e-gold-list] Where is the Gold Casino ?

[auto249061]

Does anyone know where TheGoldCasino is incorporated, or where they're keeping 
their servers? 
I just love e-gold, and setting up a casino sounds like a lot of fun, but 
I'd like find out where to do it without licensing problems.
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[e-gold-list] New e-gold exchanger - InstantGold

[InstantGold]

  Hello,

 Now you can buy gold by Western Union for 15% fee ( 12% fee for orders
greater than 1000 $). Please visit http://instantgold.8k.com

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[e-gold-list] New e-gold exchanger - InstantGold

[Help desk]

  Hello,



  At http://InstantGold.8k.com you can fund your e-gold account by Western Union. 
Cheapest transfers on the market ( for Western Union transactions ). Fees down to 8%. 
Fast funding !



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[e-gold-list] Re: E-Gold->UK exchange?

[Yahoo! GeoCities]

Yes, exhorbitant banking charges are a big problem, especially for us here
in GB. Whenever I receive a dollar commission cheque I find that most of it
is swallowed up by transaction fees. Now, after opening PayPal and e-gold
accounts I find that it's a devil of a job funding them. Dealers do not seem
to want to accept GB personal cheques or credit cards - the most convenient
payment methods. They seem to want cash-over-the-counter (rather difficult
considering the mileage between USA and GB), wire transfers - what we call
cable transfers - but at a price, western union, banker's cheques, or other
outlandish vehicles which are relatively alien or expensive concepts over
here, at least for the small investor.
Richy
PLANET CELTICA
http://www.celtica.org/



- Original Message -
From: "Rachel Willmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:59 PM
Subject: [e-gold-list] E-Gold->UK exchange?


anyone on the list want to take some e-gold off my hands for a UK cheque or
bank transfer? The amount is about £200 now, but might go up to £1000.

I've looked at the various market makers, but am hoping to find a better
private deal which doesn't involve paying the international bank charges

Rachel



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[e-gold-list] Re: America, no longer the land of the free.

[Julian Morrison]

"James M. Ray" wrote:
> 
> At 04:13 PM -0700 06/10/2001, Craig Spencer wrote:
> ...
> >
> >Gold is one of the greatest threats to the whole socialist world view.
> 
> Hmm. Maybe I was wrong to use the word "socialist" (since hardly any
> socialists call themselves socialist anyway, these days). What I meant
> is that e-gold is useful no matter what our politics, and for it to dominate
> as I think it will, it has to be seen as something besides a system made
> for a political minority like the long-time inhabitants of the e-gold list.

Hmm. I think Craig's right to call you on that - the statist sorts
*don't care* about useful. Laissez faire is about as proven-useful as a
thing can get: there is a near perfect correlation of freedom,
non-corruption, and prosperity. Doesn't make them like it. Gold
likewise.

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[e-gold-list] Re: Some small returns

[C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.]

On 11 Jun 2001, at 16:01, Viking Coder wrote:

> So, instead of disappearing in the night and leaving a lot of people,
> who can't do the math, wondering were their money is, they are just
> going to fade away as their commisssion fees approach/exceed 100%.
> People will be told up front that they will receive no return on their
> 'investment'.

And I guess that many will still jump in -:)


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[e-gold-list] Re: Some small returns

[Viking Coder]

> http://goldenpyramid.vze.com/
> 
> At least they say it is a game and a true pyramid.

But they still claim that you *will* receive the funds, and are basing it
in US$.

However, they are trying to at least be legitimate about the fact that
they are a pyramid. Their commission fees are rising (5% before May 29,
10% until June 19, 40% after June 19) to help pay off the increasingly
larger amounts of people.

So, instead of disappearing in the night and leaving a lot of people, who
can't do the math, wondering were their money is, they are just going to
fade away as their commisssion fees approach/exceed 100%. People will be
told up front that they will receive no return on their 'investment'.
Well, only if they can do the math to realize that if they're charged a
100% commission, then that leaves a grand total of $0 to play with. It is
very easy to give a 5000% return on $0.

If only the US Government was that cooperative when talking about their
Social Security plan. :)


Viking Coder

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[e-gold-list] Re: I wonder why?

[jrw]

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[e-gold-list] Re: America, no longer the land of the free.

[James M. Ray]

At 04:13 PM -0700 06/10/2001, Craig Spencer wrote:
...
>
>Gold is one of the greatest threats to the whole socialist world view.

Hmm. Maybe I was wrong to use the word "socialist" (since hardly any
socialists call themselves socialist anyway, these days). What I meant
is that e-gold is useful no matter what our politics, and for it to dominate
as I think it will, it has to be seen as something besides a system made
for a political minority like the long-time inhabitants of the e-gold list.

In what *might* be seen as good news, I heard on the TV news today
(warning: grain-of-salt alert!!!) that about 76K ATM machines in about
20 states have now stopped working, due to recent floods in Texas. I
am getting this sense of deja-vu with flooding in New Jersey last year
that caused similar system-wide outages at banks in the northeast. Are
any of you affected? I can't seem to get my ATM card to work here,
even *without* floods, but that's another (long) story...
JMR


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[e-gold-list] Re: America, no longer the land of the free.

[Ken Griffith]

My ATM card isn't working either, but I've only tested it at one machine in
Virginia.

Ken
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> At 04:13 PM -0700 06/10/2001, Craig Spencer wrote:
> ...
> >
> >Gold is one of the greatest threats to the whole socialist world view.
>
> Hmm. Maybe I was wrong to use the word "socialist" (since hardly any
> socialists call themselves socialist anyway, these days). What I meant
> is that e-gold is useful no matter what our politics, and for it to
dominate
> as I think it will, it has to be seen as something besides a system made
> for a political minority like the long-time inhabitants of the e-gold
list.
>
> In what *might* be seen as good news, I heard on the TV news today
> (warning: grain-of-salt alert!!!) that about 76K ATM machines in about
> 20 states have now stopped working, due to recent floods in Texas. I
> am getting this sense of deja-vu with flooding in New Jersey last year
> that caused similar system-wide outages at banks in the northeast. Are
> any of you affected? I can't seem to get my ATM card to work here,
> even *without* floods, but that's another (long) story...
> JMR
>
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[e-gold-list] Some small returns

[C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.]

How's that for making a few do's for your next week-end 
expenses -:)

http://goldenpyramid.vze.com/

At least they say it is a game and a true pyramid.

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[e-gold-list] Re: what has happened to digigold?

[jpm]

>does anyone know the latest about digigold? I have just downloaded and set
>up webfunds and attempted to buy some digigold for it from omnipay, but it
>hasn't arrived. I heard digigold and systemics had a dispute and systemics
>was no longer providing issuance server services but can find nothing about
>this matter currently on digigold, webfunds or systemics websites. Anyone
>know what is going on?

egold stopped paying systemics to run the server, so they stopped 
running the server.  Bad egold.

Or, conversely, systemics stopped running the server even though 
egold had paid.  Bad systemics.

In any event, egold sued the fuck out of systemics, so now its all 

tied up in litigation for 100 years.

Hope it helps!

http://www.systemics.com/legal/injunction.pdf


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>David Hillary
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[e-gold-list] what has happened to digigold?

[David Hillary]

does anyone know the latest about digigold? I have just downloaded and set
up webfunds and attempted to buy some digigold for it from omnipay, but it
hasn't arrived. I heard digigold and systemics had a dispute and systemics
was no longer providing issuance server services but can find nothing about
this matter currently on digigold, webfunds or systemics websites. Anyone
know what is going on?

David Hillary


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