[e-gold-list] Standard Reserve
Does anyone know if Standard Reserve is down or not functioning properly? I cannot 'send money' as it tells the exchange rates are not available. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gold-today.com "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have." - Margaret Mead - A private Secretary for $29.95 pa http://www.mbox.com.au/consumer_basic_more.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Re: After my previous post...
Hi all > After we tried to understand why we encountered so > many problems with the cards he supplies, we found > that *all* problems comes from the Parex bank in > Latvia. > Contradictory declarations from the Parex officer to > Frank and to me, funds that strangely disappeared 5 > days to re-appear suddenly without any explainations, > etc etc. All that made me very angry after Frank at > EurogoldLine, although he really tried to find out and > fix the problems. Frank is a great guy. Parex is a big bureaucratic machine which is obviously going to try to take advantage of anonymous cardholders in order to sit on a float for a few days. As I recall it even says in the terms and conditions for these cards that it will take a few days to credit funds. I have been in Parex's card issuing department and I have rarely seen such chaotic looking desks anywhere in the world. And the fashion tastes of the lady we met would not appeal to more conservative list members. If you can live with this, Parex is a perfectly OK bank to do business with. Regards Nick Fidex --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Re: Power for the People
Jim, > Euros have been in use for some time, and for about the last > year most of the disappearing currencies have been in a > mode of forced-exchange to the Euro. So, in Paris this Summer, > paying in francs at Timhotel was only possible using the > franc-Euro exchange rate set by fiat by the European money > authorities. I found it better to exchange US dollars for > francs or Euros at a cambio rather than accept this terrible > franc-Euro exchange. At one point, it seemed cheaper to > exchange francs to dollars to Euros at a cambio rather than > accept the fiat exchange rate. Again, many people have gotten > used to thinking in Euros, especially folks in Europe This really does not make any sense. I am not interested in doing a marketing job for Euros. It is just facts. The fact is it is a FIXED exchange rate and there is NO DIFFERENCE between French Francs and Euros. You could not possibly have bought Euros at a cambio because they do not yet exist in paper form (well maybe you could have bought Euro travellers cheques, that's about it) . If you were paying by cheque or card then there is NO DIFFERENCE between French Francs and Euros, they are one and the same creature. If you exchanged French Francs into dollars into Euros then someone was ripping you off big time. I can understand why members of the public might be confused by the Euro. However the banking business, even US banks, Visa, Mastercard etc have been settling all "legacy currency" transactions in Euros for the past two years. So I really don't understand why it has suddenly become such a big deal amongst people on this list who are supposedly knowkedageable on currency trading etc. Regards Nick Fidex --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Re: VISA: All Your Password Are Belong to Us
James M. Ray wrote: > >Of course, the cardholder is not liable if someone goes on a cybershopping >spree with a purloined number. But disentangling the fraud is a problem. >And the banks and merchants have to absorb the loss. > [skip a few lines] >American Express (news/quote) says that it does not see a compelling reason >to press for a new user identification system as it is comfortable with its >fraud losses. But the company said it might move to a new password system >if the industry agreed on a standard. > Now compare those two statements. Credit card companies NEVER suffer a loss, in fact they profit from it. It gives them an excuse to raise the fees they charge the merchants! The truth is out there, you just have to filter out the sound bites. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] VISA: All Your Password Are Belong to Us
Fascinating -- and a suggestion I (among others...) gave them, for free, over a decade ago. Hey, any Argentine e-gold users out there? I think a firsthand account of the present crisis might be interesting, even if the Argentine government persists in its stubborn clue-resistance... JMR From: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 09:19:34 -0500 http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/03/technology/ebusiness/03CARD.html?todaysheadlines December 3, 2001 Visa Starts Password Service to Fight Online Fraud By SAUL HANSELL Something seems backward about the way that credit card companies have used the Internet. If you want to see your balance or pay your bill online, you will need to log on to the credit card company's site with a password. But to spend money on other sites, all you need is the card number itself, the same one available to anyone who finds a stray receipt or picks the wallet from your pocket. Of course, the cardholder is not liable if someone goes on a cybershopping spree with a purloined number. But disentangling the fraud is a problem. And the banks and merchants have to absorb the loss. Visa is trying to change that, albeit very slowly. Starting today, it will invite cardholders to link their cards to a password. People using those cards at online stores set up to handle the new system, called Verified by Visa, will be asked for the password as they check out. MasterCard is working on a slightly more complex approach to verifying cardholders' identities; it plans to introduce the changes next year. At first, both of these systems will be optional for cardholders, online stores and the various banks that issue the cards. Visa predicts that only 6 percent of its cards will have passwords in the first year. That means that 94 percent of cards will still be an open invitation to crooks. And even those cards that do have passwords can still be used at sites - including Amazon.com (news/quote) - that do not want to ask for the passwords. Indeed, Visa's software does not even work on Macintosh computers, so a Mac-using card thief would not be deterred by the system. Visa argues that it is taking the first steps in a long process to make online buying more secure. It says it will write software for the Mac and find ways to encourage participation. Visa, which is an association owned by the banks, hints that if the system works as it hopes, it will ultimately require passwords for online purchases. "If the market accepts this over the next year, we have levers we can pull to increase adoption," said James McCarthy, a senior vice president at Visa's eVisa business unit. So far, even some of the biggest Visa banks are not so sure they want to force any cardholder to obtain a password who does not want one. "The last thing we want to do is curtail any purchase activity from someone because they don't want to take the time to sign up for the system," said Hugh Bleemer, executive vice president for e-business at First USA, the largest Visa card issuer. First USA, which will be among the first to let cardholders sign up for Verified by Visa, says it is not so much concerned about fraud itself as simply the fear of fraud felt by some of its cardholders. "When we look at research and talk to our customers, we know there is a group that would like us to provide an added level of security," Mr. Bleemer said. For the banks, moving shopping online can have a big effect. In stores, only 30 percent of dollars spent are with general- purpose credit cards. On the Internet, that share is 90 percent. Fraud, meanwhile, is hardly a major problem for the credit card issuers. Visa says that just 7 cents for every $100 in card purchases is lost to fraud, half the rate of 10 years ago. But 25 cents for every $100 in online purchases is fraud. The online fraud rate has been stable in recent years, but the overall number has grown, as e-commerce now represents just under 4 percent of Visa card purchases. "If we don't get to the root causes of this, the losses will continue to grow," Mr. McCarthy said. One reason the banks have not been so concerned about fraud losses is that under credit card rules, online stores - and other mail order merchants - must cover the costs of any charge that the consumer says was unauthorized. (In a store, where the customer signs a charge slip, the bank issuing the card is liable for fraud.) Moreover, in 2003, Visa expects to change these rules so that merchants that accept Verified by Visa will not be liable for unauthorized charges. That promise is not enough to get Amazon.com, the largest online store, to participate in Verified by Visa. "From our standpoint, the amount of friction that Verified by Visa introduces for the customer outweighs the benefit from reducing fraud," said Mark Britto, Amazon's director of corporate development. "It would turn one-click ordering into four- point, three-click ordering," he said, referring to the online store's tradem
[e-gold-list] KISS for the People!
Dear Nick & JP, > I worry about adding any more javascript complications > to the world's most important web page .. the e-gold > spend page. As long as the web sites we've already developed don't have to change scripts, I don't have a difficulty with e-gold making enhancements. If they make changes that force me to pay for updates to our web sites, I'll be pissed. > Also, what Nick says is absolutely correct: No, it isn't. > There just seems to be no reason at all to have > the historic currencies like the French Franc > or whatever. Yes, there is. People in France have been "thinking" in French francs for some time. While they have been forced to pay an unfavorable exchange rate into Euros lately, and are soon forced to use Euros only, there are many who may still think in French francs and even prefer to price their web sites in those currencies. Positioning is that aspect of marketing science that involves the way people think about products. A company that tries to change the way people think, rather than fitting its marketing into the existing thinking patterns, is going to have difficulty. It may be that the difficulty is worth the results, but often it isn't. For example, and I take this example from Ries & Trout's book on Positioning "The battle for your mind," Avis rental car agency has tried to advertise itself as the best rental car company. Every time it has done so, it has lost market share, and seen very little value for its advertising dollar. Only when Avis embraces its #2 position, and advertises with slogans like "We're #2, we try harder" has it had good results from its advertising. Getting people to bump Hertz out of the #1 rental car slot in their minds is not practical. It might be possible, but it would cost a tremendous amount of money. The fact that many people don't want to pay Hertz's prices makes it easy for competitors to get market share, but they cannot expect to be thought of as the #1 rental car company, even if, in some categories of measurement, they actually are. Making it possible for people who think in a currency other than USdollars, Euros, grams, or ounces to see their currency of choice would seem to be a good thing. Just because the Euro has forced all these other currencies out of existence doesn't mean it has force them out of people's minds. And, submitting to what the Euro banking cartel wants people to do seems like gutless defeatism. Regards, Jim http://www.GoldBarter.com/ --> a free market http://www.Cambist.net/ --> exchanges http://www.ezez.com/free/freejim.html --> cool speaker --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Power for the People
Dear Friends, It seems to me that grams of gold (or other metal) are a good way of thinking about what e-gold (and other DGCs) represent. Since a gram of gold is always a gram of gold, no matter how badly inflated a fiat currency gets, it seems rational to think in grams. Ounces are also somewhat useful, since many commodities lists show a standard contract denominated in ounces, and list the current price in (typically US dollars) per ounce. Knowing what an ounce of gold is going for is a good thing. Ounces are also good for silver, much better than grams. An ounce of silver is on the order of $5, so it is close to Claude's idea of "the cost of a meal." A couple of ounces of silver are about a gram of gold. US dollars are used worldwide. While DGCs are the thinking person's preference for money, not everyone thinks much. A very great many people think of prices in terms of US dollars. Many people who use other currencies also think in US dollars. There is no reason to push people to change their way of thinking; the reason not to do so is that it loses a lot of the market's interest. Euros have been in use for some time, and for about the last year most of the disappearing currencies have been in a mode of forced-exchange to the Euro. So, in Paris this Summer, paying in francs at Timhotel was only possible using the franc-Euro exchange rate set by fiat by the European money authorities. I found it better to exchange US dollars for francs or Euros at a cambio rather than accept this terrible franc-Euro exchange. At one point, it seemed cheaper to exchange francs to dollars to Euros at a cambio rather than accept the fiat exchange rate. Again, many people have gotten used to thinking in Euros, especially folks in Europe. Having the option of stating the payment in terms of other currencies is a good thing, and a service. It picks up Yen and CHF, which is great. Yet, these aren't cluttering the screen normally. Part of the value, for me, of using e-gold, GoldMoney, 3PGold, 1mdc, and e-bullion, is to help change the culture. The pervasive culture worldwide doesn't apply much thought to the issue of "what is money." Since that issue is paramount to the excessive and unwarranted influence of the banking cartel, and since that cartel has been responsible for very much of the evil in the world (e.g., getting between people and their property, using government to enforce fiat currency values, etc.) it is important, to me, to pressure people to think about that issue. Promoting the widespread use of grams as a unit of currency and gold and silver as metals backing hard money is important. To me. Getting off this planet, making humanity a multi-planetary species, and obtaining the kind of personal freedom I seek for myself are purposes that cannot be met within the context of the current world superpower governments and with the current banking cartel in power. I know from personal experience. Regards, Jim http://www.GoldBarter.com/ --> a free market --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Re: Anonymous remailer, HDD-encryption and e-gold structuring
At 01:02 PM 12/4/2001 -0500, you wrote: >UPDATE For Greg: > > >www.nic.ch updated today the new ownership of www.privacy.li >you may want to check it out at your leisure sometimes even miracles >ahappen:-) When you say "updated today the new ownership", what do you mean? Has the company changed hands in the last 3 days, or just the domain name? Or have you simply removed the publicly visible information which was linked to an entity which was involved in a dispute regarding misuse of entrusted funds? You're going to have to be a lot more forthcoming before I'd dream of sending you any gold or recommending you to someone seeking privacy. -- Greg Broiles -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP 0x26E4488c or 0x94245961 Eliminate due process, civil rights? It's the Constitution, stupid! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] After my previous post...
Hi, Some days ago I posted on that list the message quoted below. I would like to offer my apologies to EurogoldLine.nl, the Market-Maker that was concerned by my message. After we tried to understand why we encountered so many problems with the cards he supplies, we found that *all* problems comes from the Parex bank in Latvia. Contradictory declarations from the Parex officer to Frank and to me, funds that strangely disappeared 5 days to re-appear suddenly without any explainations, etc etc. All that made me very angry after Frank at EurogoldLine, although he really tried to find out and fix the problems. EurogoldLine is a GREAT market-maker, and I strongly recommend him for e-gold users who want a reliable - and fast Service. Moreover, I now CAN recommend the cards that EurogoldLine supplies, to be used for small or for *large* amounts. I add that, after my message, I got a few offers that make me think that a few scamsters are on the List, waiting nice pigeons! Regards, ML > We purchased a few debit cards from Parex bank, from one e-gold market > maker. After a positive test with the MM, we have been waiting 10 days for > the cards to be funded... And they have never been, the MM seems unable to > do this and just sent us the gold back, 10 days later. Selling cards that > he can't fund... But that is another problem! > We are looking for a market maker who could buy our gold and fund those > cards QUICKLY. The amounts are by block of USD 10,000. After having heared > "promise" during 2 weeks for NO result, we now prefer "facts". In other > words, we prefer the cards to be funded QUICKLY $5,000 by $5,000 rather > than to wait a century for + $10,000. __ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Domain for sale.
A little over a year ago I registered downlinegroup.com for a friend. He later decided he did not want it. I don't really want it either. There is a ponzi operating at downlinegroup.net and I periodicly get email from someone complaining about not gettting paid. I would rather not have the taint of having my name on it. Now that I have stated why I don't want it I will state that I think it has value. If anyone would like to take this name I am offering up for sale for $1,000. All gold currencies accepted. Vince Callaway FreedomHound.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Re: Another one bites the dust (needlessly)
At 01:02 PM -0500 12/05/2001, C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. wrote: ... >I think that the reason as more to do with the fact that people still >prefer real books to e-books. It is still annoying to read a book on a >computer. > >However, I am thinking that when a sort-of protable electronic book >reader is available on the market, e-books will get more popular. Hi Claude. I'd agree that paper books are very nice, but I think that rather than single-purpose readers, we will see nicer and nicer screens on our notebooks. I'm about to (well, eventually) get another Mac, probably through Banana (but probably after Christmas, and that new screen technology ROCKS). Aside from the feeling of a nice book in your hands (which can never be duplicated, IMO) I think people will get used to more electronic screens over time. >Of course, digital gold currencies will always remain the best way >top shorten the 0rder-to-Delivery period. Yeah, that's my main point. It also seems like these guys give up too easily. If they saw that the cost of receiving payments & automating delivery were this low by switching to e-gold, they'd just fire everyone anyway and stay open in what I'd like to christen "rum punch mode." JMR Who got back with 23 "Bahamian" cigars! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Re: Another one bites the dust (needlessly)
On 5 Dec 2001, at 11:53, James M. Ray wrote: > The reason they > aren't making money is almost certainly that they are simply unable to > sufficiently-automate the chain between getting-paid & delivery. James, I think that the reason as more to do with the fact that people still prefer real books to e-books. It is still annoying to read a book on a computer. However, I am thinking that when a sort-of protable electronic book reader is available on the market, e-books will get more popular. Of course, digital gold currencies will always remain the best way top shorten the 0rder-to-Delivery period. Claude Cormier Ormetal Inc. http://www.goldcurrencies.ca http://www.ormetal.com = Claude Cormier Public Key http://www.ormetal.com/keys/ClaudeCormier.asc = --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Another one bites the dust (needlessly)
It's a pity these desperate companies never seem to get desperate- enough to think any differently about ecommerce. The reason they aren't making money is almost certainly that they are simply unable to sufficiently-automate the chain between getting-paid & delivery. I doubt they'd believe e-gold can solve this problem for them today, but it could. ... D I T H E R A T I see the digerati dither, daily > > BOOK VALUE > > "The market for e-books has simply not developed > the way we hoped, and given the overall economic > climate, we can't jeopardize our thriving print > business by carrying a money-losing operation > indefinitely into the future." > > Larry Kirshbaum, chairman of Time Warner Trade > Publishing, on closing iPublish.com, a venture > that redefined publishing as we know it only > by being unprofitable, News.com, 4 December 2001 http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8069120.html (see also http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7829133.html for the Random-House version of the same, sad story). JMR >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >Ditherati appears daily on weekdays. An archive is >online at http://www.ditherati.com/archive/ "e-gold is to money what email is to letters." -- JP May -- Regards, James M. Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP = 0xAE141134 Try a free e-gold account: http://www.e-gold.com/e-gold.asp?cid=101574 http://www.omnipay.net to buy/sell http://two-cents-worth.com/?jmr&EG if you think my message was worth "2 cents." --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] Re: Sites using e-gold
I have done well on bamdex but I feel kind of guilty about it. Would be better if I could suck money off lots of people rather than just the few that trade now and then. Out of many trades I have never lost (except to myself ;) many apologies to those less cautious, I am spending your money well! cya, Andrew... > Has anyone had any experience with either the $1000 gold contract website > bamdex.com or xodds.com that they would like to comment on? > Thanks > B Pate > > > > http://two-cents-worth.com/?109406&EG > --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
[e-gold-list] DNS.vanrein.org is back!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, The domain services at DNS.vanrein.org are back online -- including all the tools and the $15/yr, fully automated sales. It's been down a lot lately -- first had somebody trying to break in, followed by ISP "maintenance" (I would call it "messing up") but the trouble is over! The break-in failed, but I decided to go offline until I was certain what had happened (a script kiddy, not someone who seriously knows what they were doing) and what to do about it (update SSH beyond the version I had running). I took the "chance" of the downtime to do a major hardware upgrade, ready for growth and expensian. More importantly, the operating system is now a more secure one (Linux, designed with "cool" in mind, was replaced with FreeBSD, designed with "secure" in mind). To celebrate the new opening, there will be a special offer added over the coming days, namely the new .name top-level, intended primarily for email-aliases of personal email addresses. You may want to get one to sell aliases to all your family members! Sorry to anyone who was disturbed by the downtime -- I think the above helps to understand it. Cheers, Rick van Rein. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Ddd8VVg0GvW60c0RAgItAJ0T7zY0LrQdCTk4ZYhrhXZvpXi4HACggoS7 4344qWbEpt0VY2SS5nV/Si0= =RMsu -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html lets you observe the e-gold system's activity now!
