[e-gold-list] Re: Visit Gold
To sidestep the flame war brewing here, the best chance for a private individual to be able to examine the gold holdings would be to becoem a journalist for, say, wyred magazine, and start making enquiries. You should at least be able to get an interview with the management of the facilities, and if you can sweet-talk them you might be able to get a look at the gold bars. I doubt they'd allow pictures however. It's still an outside chance of course, and other than starting a tunnel you just have to take it on trust that the gold is there and that it is really gold. Which is exactly the way all currencies operate, ultimately, by the trust of the users. --- Send the right message --- + Today freemail + Get your free, private email address at http://www.today.com.au --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Book auctions on Ebay
Now available for instant purchase at Ebay, using E-gold (plus traditional payment methods): Books, books and more books. Lots of science fiction including some Frank Herbert and H P Lovecraft, plus some RPG books still left (at time of writing)! http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=crossbowmarksman&sort=3&page=2&rows=100&s ince=1&showpics=1&stab=0 New Books at Discount Prices --- Send the right message --- + Today freemail + Get your free, private email address at http://www.today.com.au --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] The Gold Casino
Does anybody know what is going on at www.thegoldcasino.com ? Their egold account seems to have a balance limit imposed marco --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Visit Gold
Wow, them thare are pretty big words Jimbo. I may have to go get one of them College boys to translate your last mail to me? Whooo Boy, you can shoot that mouth of yours as fast as an M-60 in Afganistan. The fact is that you get your *peebles off* (rocks would be much to generous a description) telling other people how their Companies should be managed. WTF are you to make demands on management of GBC's? Are you a major shareholder? Have you ever built one? Managed one? Sold one? etc.. Or are you simply content sitting on the fence pretending to be the wise old Owl of the GBC community? You didn't even know what a GBC was until you fumbled across the e-gold site (while in a drunken stupor) one night a couple of years ago. Whenever you are countered in any forum you reply with veiled insults and displays of your superior intellect!! The needles in the eye comment was referencing my opinion of being a superior experience than to have to read the constant whining and dribble on these forums.. As far as you having the honor on inserting the needles, I think not friend. I would roll you like a week old doughnut and then charge you $35 for removing my boot from your ass!! You shouldn't talk like a real Texan (when you're not) and let your mouth write checks your body (or will) can't Cash. You're a Houstonite remember? What'd you do there anyway? Make about $165K a year at Nasa designing defective *O-Ring*gaskets that fail and blow up Space Shuttles or something?? Or where you in quality control on the Hubbell Space Telescope project?? I forget?? Tell Ole' Danny Goldin I said Hello the next time you see Him, I haven't pow-wowed with Him since the Mid 90's. You and Turk are a lot alike, both of you always want to run around and stick your noses in others peoples business. If you spent as much time working on your own businesses as you do commenting on the management of others (like Turkie) then you would be a friggin' Billionaire by now. JB _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Visit Gold
Dear Major Colonel and Bosco, All this crap about audits and such is because of SR and OSpyrite (a description I coined BTW) -- Two companies that had NO experience in the Precious Metals business and had NO business running a metals backed system!! No, it isn't. All this concern about audits and such is also due to the fact that e-gold has an affirmative obligation to identify an independent auditor who should be performing audits which should be published. If you have no concern over e-gold's business practices, where is the audit for the period from February 2001 to February 2002? Has there been any audit since February 2001? Are you comfortable with an e-currency provider that claims to be audited but is not? take your 400 Oz's and tell them to ship you a Bar if you don't trust them. Like most of what passes for opinion from your locale, this claim seems more like passing wind. The obligation to perform audits and take the process of third party certification seriously is one that GoldMoney and e-Bullion appear to take seriously. I don't see that on the e-gold site, though I presume that the upcoming revisions to the site will be reassuring. The last change - indicating a lot of details on the individual bars, was quite reassuring compared to what went before. It is idle and foolish to say that if I don't trust e-gold or GoldMoney I should put an eighth of a million dollars into their hands to buy a 400 ounce bar of gold and redeem it. Saying as much simply ignores the valid question about whether e-gold is going to have an audit performed, and whether e-gold is going to publish the results of such an audit. I didn't put the third party auditor provisions into my agreement with e-gold, Ltd. They did. It certainly doesn't call for noise from you. If you don't have any sensible thing to contribute to the discussion, type your views into a text editor, print them out, fold them six ways until the paper is all sharp outside corners, and vigorously place these where the Sun never shines. IMHO if you have any questions about credibility then you should apply them to a Company that requires you to shell out over $120K to see the Gold!! It seems very clear from even a casual review of the list archive on talk.e-gold that I've never once complained about the e-Bullion currency or its policies. I have been complaining about the policy at e-gold, which is their policy of requiring audits but not having them performed or published. First you tell me that my only recourse is to put an eighth of a million dollars in their hands and redeem a bar of gold, and quit using their system; then you tell me that I should direct questions about credibility toward them. In other words, you appear to be floating face down in your stream of consciousness. Maybe you should engage your brain before you finger the keyboard. As for GoldMoney, they do have the same bizarre notion of using LBMA roughly 400 ounce bars as their standard unit for redemption, but at least they perform and publish audits on their inventory. Here again it all reduces to the fact that if you don't trust them don't buy or sell their product! Period. No, it doesn't reduce to any such made-up fact. The fact is that I do trust e-gold, and I do buy and sell their product. I have reason to trust them, based on an extensive background of direct business relationship, based on meeting principals of their firm, based on other due diligence. Just because I trust e-gold, Ltd. to provide a good e-currency does not mean that I have to be satisfied by a breach of their contract to provide a third party auditor and have audits performed. It doesn't mean that I have to tolerate idiocy from fools like you, either. If you think you can do a better job at it then build your own GBC and have at it! Of course I can do a better job. But why build my own? It is so much more effective to buy one of these distressed properties and bring professional management to bear on its problems. I would think it would be more appealing to stick needles in my eyeballs! I would pay a gram of gold to see you do so, but only if I get to choose the knitting needles. Regards, Jim http://goldbarter.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] [e-gold-tech] security note for automation users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- please see the note added today at: http://sci.e-gold.com something to keep in mind for e-gold automation users - the full command line of a spawned process may be visible to other users on your server via 'ps' or similar output for the duration of that processes run. in those cases, you do not want to have sensitive data passed into a program via those arguments. if this is an issue for you, consider other alternatives such as the --data @foobar method supported by cURL (reading arguments from a file). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 iQEVAwUBPdqFB8yM0YPqVE7FAQEMjAf/bzr48+UmSrItTgqv6kdQ4zZD+D9GtV2E wxL2za1zTV74AAHC564QlRZc6iCjnl/kj5A61SDY/hfdhsnGUFDXxX/XW6leK53/ MMsdoKAn80VZ6p/KKAyvPdCw6j5Nr1xjKIGQ/dbiCAoM65vgTjLa+SDe7m1X1ghv 3sMxEeL8qQxbbYpGoW8Pxf+Ce7DCGN2Yn4GFc3JDw50rjN7TQvOqKS9J9xN4xftn PzxsanlYiG+zde9jPUv9uayzId9yOrflLmEMuIs7o9fubmm0wKI4Aqd9E/HqPkuA KVXevgsajgjcbbKnFuaFZeV1fpYPNG1nNhRaLYspFSw1DzVxVZ3JPg== =FRiJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-tech as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Safe web surfing tip: Get in the habit of checking the SSL key/padlock icon in your browser and address/location bar *before* submitting sensitive information like your e-gold passphrase. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: [dgc.chat] DDU on ecurrency providers
Dear Graham, On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 11:15 PM, Graham Kelly wrote: Actually, I agree. I now realise that customers will need protection... from errant ecurrency providers. Excellent stuff. I am glad to see your company instituting a policy of due diligence on e-currency providers. I might add that Cambist doesn't support PayPal because, among other difficulties, they don't respond well to our due diligence inquiries. It is not easy being selective and setting high standards; if it were, everyone would do it. For the record, we have been doing due diligence on Sidd's new Pecunix currency for a while, and he has been very cooperative about our inquiries. Regards, Jim http://cambist.net. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] New ebay auctions. Pay by e-gold!
TRAFFICMISSION.COM - domain name & professional logo ($250 value)! Low reserve, no transfer fee! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1790199656 DESOB.COM for sale! Yahoo-listed, no reserve! No transfer fee! Pay by e-gold! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1789017306 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] RE: Off Shore Hosting
At 11:38 AM 11/19/2002 +0200, fidex lists wrote: > I live in Central America and am considering starting a web-hosting > business here. This message is a "feeler" to see if there is interest > in this group. Yes, of course, we would accept payment in e-gold. > ^_^ The 2nd question, if you would be interested in Central > American hosting, is would you be willing to pay more for hosting > here than what it costs for hosting in the US? > I think there is a good market for it if connections are fast enough. And up time and support and redundancy and security - the usual requirements. When I searched for off-shore servers a year or so ago, I found there were not a lot available. One other requirement is the stability of the country where the servers are located. FWIW George ___ George Matyjewicz, Chief Global Strategist GAP Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.gapent.com/ Book Author and Doctoral Candidate in Training Moderator of E-Tailer's Digest http://www.etailersdigest.com/ Automated Press Releases http://www.automatedpr.com/ Board Member AIB #34 http://www.aib-world.org/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Liberty Dollar Debuts Online!
-- >From: "Bernard von NotHaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Liberty Dollar Debuts Online! Bernard, I opened a digital Liberty Dollar account. The only thing that seems to be missing is: how do I get Liberty Dollars into my account? The only thing I found that mentioned funding an account was in the Terms of Service, which states that FRN can be converted into eLD if I send FRN to NORFED via cash, checks, money orders, bank wire, and credit cards. I went over to norfed.org, looking for how to get eLD into my account. If you follow the "where do I get it" link, you are taken to the listing of Redemption Centers, which I suppose will eventually be selling eLD. However, that point is not made explicitly clear. I eventually found how to get eLD by following the "products" link on the NORFED site. Finding out how to fund my account is not that intuitive, so might I suggest that a link such as "fund my eLD account" appear on the account screen along with "send liberty dollars", "receive liberty dollars", etc. The link could explain the process, and take the user either to the "products" page of norfed.org or to a listing of relevant redemption centers. A description of how to fund your eLD account could also appear in the FAQ section at libertydollar.org. It also might be a good idea to have a separate list of the redemption centers dealing in digital Liberty Dollars and which also do business nationally. For example, if Cambist.net makes a market for eLD as we do with e-gold etc, it would be a good idea to have companies like ours on a separate list from traditional redemption centers, who have hitherto focused only on serving local geographical areas and have only dealt with the physical Liberty Dollars. Best Regards, John Kyle --- http://cambist.net -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] RE: Off Shore Hosting
> I live in Central America and am considering starting a web-hosting > business here. This message is a "feeler" to see if there is interest > in this group. Yes, of course, we would accept payment in e-gold. > ^_^ The 2nd question, if you would be interested in Central > American hosting, is would you be willing to pay more for hosting > here than what it costs for hosting in the US? > I think there is a good market for it if connections are fast enough. Nick Fidex --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Off Shore Hosting
At 6:46 PM -0600 11/18/02, Cassandra wrote: >I live in Central America and am considering starting a web-hosting >business here. This message is a "feeler" to see if there is interest >in this group. Yes, of course, we would accept payment in e-gold. >^_^ The 2nd question, if you would be interested in Central >American hosting, is would you be willing to pay more for hosting >here than what it costs for hosting in the US? Hi Cassandra. There are quite a few hosting companies which take e-gold, but more are always welcome. What would your rules be, and what legal jurisdiction(s)? For example, one hosting company which accepts e-gold is Havenco. It's located on the nation of SeaLand in the English Channel. Because of the securely-remote location and minimal legal rules (no spam or childporn, basically) they're able to charge premium rates. JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Liberty Dollar Debuts Online!
Liberty Dollar Debuts Online! Worlds first value-backed currency available in digital, physical, and certificate forms EVANSVILLE, INDIANA November 18, 2002 Capitalizing on the steady growth of The Liberty Dollar currency, NORFED announced that Americas inflation proof currency is now available in digital form. The Liberty Dollar Online allows individuals and merchants to conduct business on the Internet, via e-mail, or through electronic funds transfer (EFT) using The Liberty Dollar (ALD) for their exchanges. Simply put, users can now email Liberty Dollars in any amount to each other and buy over the Internet from merchants who accept Liberty Dollars. "The digital Liberty Dollar is the latest -- and most useful -- in a growing market of electronic value backed currencies," said Louis James, President of The Henry Hazlitt Foundation. "Henry Hazlitt believed that sound money is vital to ensuring long-term peace and prosperity. As President of a foundation committed to advancing Hazlitt's work, it gives me great hope to see the proliferation and successful usage of sound digital currencies, like The Liberty Dollar, that offer an alternative to our inflationary Federal Reserve Notes." As a newcomer, NORFED has moved strategically to increase competition by taking a different path from the other digital currencies, which are bought at a premium and do not pay the account holder to use them. Instead, The Liberty Dollar puts people first in the monetary line where their dollars are worth the most, and rewards them for using the new currency with a profit. As NORFED asks, Why pay a premium when you can use The Liberty Dollar at a 10% discount off the face value, and earn 10% on all your sponsorees exchanges! To launch the Free Money Movement, the fees for using the Liberty Dollars Online are free for all transactions under $10. Any payment over $10 is charged a flat fee of 37 cents, paid by the payee. Just think, for the cost of a postage stamp, users can send silver backed Liberty Dollars anywhere in the world instantly, at a fraction of the cost of typical banking fees. Plus NORFED, a non-profit, educational, national organization shares the transaction fees with its Redemption Centers, to encourage them to take an active role in returning America to the new value backed currency. Ten cents of the 37 cent transaction fee goes to the Redemption Center who sponsored the individual making the payment. This means that in addition to the $100 for sponsoring a Redemption Center, if you sponsor just one RC who uses the same amount of Liberty Dollars Online monthly as you do, you will effectively get 20% on your money. If you sponsor just 9 friends, who use the same amount of ALD monthly as you do, you will get your money for free. If you sponsor 100 friends, get $10,000 and you can live for free on the ALD. "We created the digital Liberty Dollar to marry the strength of silver backed currency with the speed and convenience of the Internet," said Bernard von NotHaus, Monetary Architect at NORFED. "This e-currency is absolutely unique no other money provider offers 100% silver backing, physical redemption, digital convenience, and paper certificates, all tied to a single, economic, model currency that lets users profit from using the money. Liberty Dollar users have been asking about digital currency since we launched The Liberty Dollar in 1998, and were proud to say that after extensive research and development, we built a system that works technically and economically." A free Liberty Dollar account can be opened within a couple of minutes and funded via the "Products" button on www.NORFED.org, or by contacting NORFED via email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or calling 888.421.6181. And although anyone can open a free account, only Redemption Centers get the silver backed Liberty Dollars at a discount and use them at a profit plus earn two residual referral fees. Planned future developments for the digital Liberty Dollar include a smart card system that allows for the anonymous transaction of digital Liberty Dollars using card-to-card technology, debit and ATM card availability, and other ties with electronic currency systems already in use in the U.S. and worldwide. ABOUT THE LIBERTY DOLLAR The Liberty Dollar Americas inflation proof currency - was launched on October 1, 1998 after 23 years of development. It has approximately $3 Million in circulation and tens of thousands of users and merchants in all 50 states. The Liberty Dollar is the only digital currency that also offers physical redemption into gold and silver, paper warehouse receipts that can be spent or carried like cash, and a national network of over 1,500 Redemption Centers who provide exchange service. The Liberty Dollar can be spent anywhere it is voluntarily accepted, including a network of thousands of Liberty Merchants nationwide. ABOUT NORFED NORFED, the National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and the Internal Revenue C
[e-gold-list] Re: Visit Gold
In theory it all sounds good and well. However the clearances required to even get close to where bullion repositories are located are stringent. The extra clearances to get inside are even more stringent, at least so I am told. I am sure that Via-Mat or Brinks or whomever would simply open their doors to any Joe Schmoe who shows up on their doorstep and says: Hey, I have an acct at E_gold that has about 25 grams in it (or if it's an acct at GMoney then you would be saying; "I have an acct at GM that has about 1/2 a gram in it") -- do you to terribly mind if I come in and browse around a bit because I want to make sure that you REALLY have my $255 worth of Gold in your Vault! I have a pretty good feeling you would get your rear-end booted about as far as 1/2 dozen heavily armed Guards could throw you. As far as I am concerned, if you don't trust the issuer than don't do business with them, period!! All this crap about audits and such is because of SR and OSpyrite (a description I coined BTW) -- Two companies that had NO experience in the Precious Metals business and had NO business running a metals backed system!! E-gold and GMoney require a minimum redemption of 400oz Bars -- take your 400 Oz's and tell them to ship you a Bar if you don't trust them. E-Bullion is even easier to trust as far as I am concerned, because they don't limit you to 400oz Bars and you can redeem as little as a KiloBar. IMHO if you have any questions about credibility then you should apply them to a Company that requires you to shell out over $120K to see the Gold!! Here again it all reduces to the fact that if you don't trust them don't buy or sell their product! Period. If you think you can do a better job at it then build your own GBC and have at it! After browsing all the whining about GBC's on this list over the last Year or so I would think it would be more appealing to stick needles in my eyeballs! JB _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
