[e-gold-list] www.ozzigold.com is 3 years old!
Dear Australian e-gold users, www.ozzigold.com is celebrating its 3rd birthday. To celebrate, we have lowered our service fees and launched a new web design. Any comments would be much appreciated. Regards, Phil ozzigold.com . _ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: goldhedge idea (was Re: The example TGC is setting. (was: Re: The truth))
> I recently saw this new goldhedge.com site, and I wondered why they are not > offering the opposite service as well. > They offer you a fixed US$ amount for your gold, but I think there would be > at least equal interest for a service that offers a fixed amount Grams of > gold for your $. > That would be a very useful service for the market makers, because now they > are taking risk when they accept a big order for e-gold at a certain rate, > as the price of gold can easily go up by the time they get the check for the > order. In theory this is certainly true; however, from a practical standpoint, it is more expedient for an exchange maker to wait until the customer has delivered his funds before making such a commitment. It is simply not reasonable to expect an exchange maker to assume this risk. Logic dictates that it is incumbent upon the customer to transfer his funds to the exchange maker before any transaction can occur. > > Because goldhedge is using futures position to deliver their service, they > could as easily offer fixed amount of gold for $ service. > (and why not the same services for silver, platinum and palladium ?) > We are certainly not opposed to providing hedging for the other e-metals. Silver is the most likely possibility in the future. As for platinum and palladium, these metals are not heavily traded, which means liquidity (i.e. getting your orders filled) becomes an issue. We prefer to avoid situations where we would have difficulty promptly meeting customer demand for new hedges and redemptions. > That would open a lot of possibilities. > Let's say you can do a $ investment that will give you a 20% return by the > end of the year. > Interesting, but your fear is that the dollar will drop in the meantime, > which could erase your profits. > I know I will have $ coming in by year end , and I could go to goldhedge > to fix the amount of gold I will get for these $ at near today's rates... > If the dollar drops in the meantime it is no problem because I have hedged > them against a fixed amount of gold... > > Again, this is certainly a good idea and there are many investors who do this world-wide on a daily basis; however, it is not likely be something in which we would ever become involved. Among other things, it would expose us to enormous amounts of government regulation and expense with respect to money laundering laws, CFTC registration as a commodity pool operator, etc., etc. In our current scheme of things, we are able to avoid all of these issues. We prefer it that way... :-) If someone is interested in hedging in this manner, I would suggest opening a commodities trading account and having at it! We have used Lind-Waldock in Chicago (http://www.lind-waldock.com) for many years and are very pleased with them. David Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: goldhedge idea (was Re: The example TGC issetting. (was: Re: The truth))
At 7:22 PM +0300 7/13/03, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: ... >That's why I put risk free in quotes, because obviously you always have the >risk that your currency goes down. >But the opposite can also happen , that gold goes down in $ terms. True, but my point was that grams have no inflation-risk. With rates that bad, CDs' risks seem great to me compared to just holding e-gold and seeing what happens. The government that issues dollars has recently seen a number of costs, not all of which may be reflected in their price, yet. Grams will always be worth something. Dollars have been a good bet so far, but that's past performance... ... >I recently saw this new goldhedge.com site, and I wondered why they are not >offering the opposite service as well. >They offer you a fixed US$ amount for your gold, but I think there would be >at least equal interest for a service that offers a fixed amount Grams of >gold for your $. >That would be a very useful service for the market makers, because now they >are taking risk when they accept a big order for e-gold at a certain rate, >as the price of gold can easily go up by the time they get the check for the >order. Well, I think he reads this list, perhaps he will try it. >Because goldhedge is using futures position to deliver their service, they >could as easily offer fixed amount of gold for $ service. >(and why not the same services for silver, platinum and palladium ?) > (Nobody but Jim Ray likes those three emetals) But hedging is interesting! JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] goldhedge idea (was Re: The example TGC is setting. (was: Re: The truth))
> >Not really a fair comparison. > >The CD is a 'risk free' investment, meaning that your principal will be paid > >back to you at the end of the period. > >So, the value of the CD cannot go down. > > On the contrary. The CD is paying between one and two percent, but > in "normal" times that's not even going to keep up with inflation. Grams > (which TGC's paying 7.2% on) don't inflate. While the share-price may > or may-not be enough of a risk-premium for TGC shares to be a good > buy vs a CD; CDs aren't exactly "risk-free" either. > JMR That's why I put risk free in quotes, because obviously you always have the risk that your currency goes down. But the opposite can also happen , that gold goes down in $ terms. Leaving the currency risk aside, with the CD you have exactly your principal amount back at the end of the period, while with stocks you don't know how much $ or Grams of gold you will get for them in 1 or 2 years from now... And you could also hedge your dollars. I recently saw this new goldhedge.com site, and I wondered why they are not offering the opposite service as well. They offer you a fixed US$ amount for your gold, but I think there would be at least equal interest for a service that offers a fixed amount Grams of gold for your $. That would be a very useful service for the market makers, because now they are taking risk when they accept a big order for e-gold at a certain rate, as the price of gold can easily go up by the time they get the check for the order. Because goldhedge is using futures position to deliver their service, they could as easily offer fixed amount of gold for $ service. (and why not the same services for silver, platinum and palladium ?) That would open a lot of possibilities. Let's say you can do a $ investment that will give you a 20% return by the end of the year. Interesting, but your fear is that the dollar will drop in the meantime, which could erase your profits. I know I will have $ coming in by year end , and I could go to goldhedge to fix the amount of gold I will get for these $ at near today's rates... If the dollar drops in the meantime it is no problem because I have hedged them against a fixed amount of gold... Danny --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] freecashcards ?
Anyone used http://www.freecashcards.com/? .. any suggestions? Thanks! Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold Debit Card
Sir, We can personally recommend the E-fidex Maestro card issued out of Loyal Bank Ltd http://www.e-fidex.com/Accepts e-gold deposits & good rates. The E-bullion card is a great card also, fast performance on deposits is very good here. http://www.e-bullion.com Finally, we are hoping that the MasterCard from DebitGold.biz will be very good but mine is just now on the way. (very reasonable price) http://www.debitgold.biz We have a section listing many debit cards and brief descriptions on their issuers. I am sure you will also find several exchange providers who offer excellent cards with fine service to back that up. http://www.gold-pages.net/links/Debit_Cards/ Best of luck. Alex Gold-Pages.net Gold-Stores.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] e-gold Debit Card
Hi, Anyone could recommend me a good e-gold debit card? I am looking for something similar with Steve Renner's cashcard (with faster funding service thou..) I don't say that cashcards is not a reliable company, and I think that Steve is a honest man. The only problem is that it takes 1 or 2 weeks for the card to be funded wich is a major problem. Thank you, Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: The example TGC is setting. (was: Re: The truth)
At 10:36 AM +0300 7/13/03, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: ... >> This is what my bank offered for CD's a month ago. (No typos) >> CD (Minimum $1,000 for 2 years): 1.45% >> CD (Minimum $10,000 for 2 years): 1.50% >> CD (Minimum $100,000 for 2 years): 1.50% >> > > >Not really a fair comparison. >The CD is a 'risk free' investment, meaning that your principal will be paid >back to you at the end of the period. >So, the value of the CD cannot go down. On the contrary. The CD is paying between one and two percent, but in "normal" times that's not even going to keep up with inflation. Grams (which TGC's paying 7.2% on) don't inflate. While the share-price may or may-not be enough of a risk-premium for TGC shares to be a good buy vs a CD; CDs aren't exactly "risk-free" either. JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: I can no longer recommend cashcards.net- it's a scam.
> Yes, mine worked the last time I used it - I'll try today > to withdraw money from my local ATM today to see if it is > still in working order. I had no problems to withdraw the available funds from my local ATM. I'll try to transfer funds to the card an see what happens! Lourens and I walked right into a == Download ringtones, logos and picture messages at Ananzi Mobile Fun. http://www.ananzi.co.za/cgi-bin/goto.pl?mobile --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: The example TGC is setting. (was: Re: The truth)
> >>> Even if full disclosure was given, 7.2% per annum is not exactly > >>> breath > >>> taking. > > > > Well, these days, looking at things like US banks, it's not all that > > bad... > > This is what my bank offered for CD's a month ago. (No typos) > CD (Minimum $1,000 for 2 years): 1.45% > CD (Minimum $10,000 for 2 years): 1.50% > CD (Minimum $100,000 for 2 years): 1.50% > Not really a fair comparison. The CD is a 'risk free' investment, meaning that your principal will be paid back to you at the end of the period. So, the value of the CD cannot go down. While stocks always carry a risk premium because they can fall in value and you may have to wait many years to see it trade back at the price you bought (if ever) Danny --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
