[e-gold-list] PayPal is doing an Amazon

2003-07-28 Thread Robert S.Z.
A hosting client of ours, www.universal-escrow.com who can't post here
himself for obvious reasons just sent me this:

United States Patent Application 20020004772  
Kind Code  A1  
Templeton, James E. ;   et al.  January 10, 2002  

--System
and method for verifying a financial instrument

I will quote one of the claims:

1. A method of verifying a customer's authority to use a financial
instrument, comprising: initiating one or more transactions using a
financial instrument identified by a customer; storing one or more
attributes of said one or more transactions; receiving a set of proffered
attributes; comparing said proffered attributes to said stored
attributes; and accepting use of the financial instrument by the customer
if said proffered attributes match said stored attributes. 
--

If they are being granted that patent (and I can't see why they wouldn't
considering that Amazon.com got the one-click purchase patenteted years
after hundreds of sites had and used 'prior art'), then it is likely that
they will actually try to enforce it as well. After all, they are known
crooks.

So, maybe Omnipay and a few others should start contesting the application
while there is still time?

Cheers,
Robert.

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[e-gold-list] Re: PayPal is doing an Amazon

2003-07-28 Thread James M. Ray
At 11:47 AM -0400 7/28/03, Robert S.Z. wrote:
A hosting client of ours, www.universal-escrow.com who can't post here
himself for obvious reasons ...

I'm curious about the obvious reasons. While sites claiming to be
escrow sites have a checkered history at best, this one does a few
things that seem legit -- like actually-mentioning an account number
on their page. I'm not saying they ARE legit (indeed, their margins
look too low to be real, IMO, because escrow done-right is GOING
to be expensive!!) but they could certainly post something on the
topic of a patent dealing with something about money. (I may have
killed a message that was an ad for escrow services, but it may
have been instinctive, because of all the escrow-crooks out there.)

I am certainly *far* from perfect at doing this moderation stuff!
JMR


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[e-gold-list] Regarding crooks!!! Very Interesting! I think :)

2003-07-28 Thread Fraud Party
THIS MY FIRST FRAUD REPORT(MORE TO COME):

I do not like the following web sites and I am expressing my opinions
The words between quotes are citations from the web sites I am referring
to... If you have time to do more against these bastards please do so.. My
e-mail address {for kicking asses} is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I couldn't
find something better...

I am sure that there will be e-mails like:
 ohh no... this web site is fine...  My grandmother used it.. my indian
ancestor also used... they are now scammers... don't b bd boy
F**K THOSE


Let's party:


www.e-goldtransfer.com

WOW! They have a Tell a friend button... nice!!!

They listed contact info is:
Western Union / E-GoldTransfer
P.O. Box 7521
Broomfield, CO 80021-0005 USA

NO PHONE NUMBER... THEY HAVENT BOTHERED TOO MUCH...
VISIBLE FROM THE STUPID WEB PAGE DESIGN...

The person who registered the domain is:

Domain Name.. e-goldtransfer.com
Creation Date 2003-06-27
Registration Date 2003-06-27
Expiry Date.. 2004-06-27
Organisation Name Deropot
Organisation Address. 1015 Neptune Dr.Lot 22
Organisation Address. 
Organisation Address. Ruskin
Organisation Address. 33570
Organisation Address. FL
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Is he for real? Does he know that he has registered this domain with his
credit card?
Maybe there is somebody out there that will search his real phone number
and tell him about this...

I am sure that they are also good and honest auction scammers:

Read their FAQ:

Can I pay for online auctions using your services? 
A. Yes, you can pay for E-Bay.com, Yahoo.com and other online auctions. 

Of course why not... A real company would try its best to protect against
auction scams but e-goldtransfer.com is really strong with its
opinion...

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www.cash-financial.net

All transactions are completed in a safe and secure offshore environment,
with complete privacy.
For them after they steal your money... 

Just click the CONTACT US link from their web site and wow they really are
in the center of the financial offshore and nonoffshore world or
whatever...

Cash Financial 
Address : Beirut Central district
Arais Bldg - Bank Geagea, 
125 Azarieh Street 
Beirut, Lebanon 
Phone : (961)1 877668 /69 /70 /71 /72 
Fax : (961)1 875054 /55 

I don't have the balls to call these numbers... I am afraid that I will be
BinLadened

Just read their FAQ... simple... THEY CAN DO ANYTHING... NO PROBLEM... 

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www.xhp-exchange.com  www.opticomposhop.com

The XHP exchange has the WORST design that I have ever seen...
(thinking)... almost the worst..
They even show your IP when you visit their web site.. Coool!!

What about the IP of those who control the web site, the one behind the
proxy or the firewall... how can I get it, you know, just to... say hello
to them!

NO PHONE NUMBER NO NOTHING

Whois Output for: xhp-exchange.com

Domain Name Owner:
XHP-exchange
134 fairview st
arlington, TX 76010
US

Administrative Contact:
XHP-exchange
chung, chan [CC-186]
134 fairview st
Arlington, TX 76010, US
Phone: 8179387386
Fax: 8179387386
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Billing Contact:
XHP-exchange
chung, chan [CC-186]
134 fairview st
Arlington, TX 76010, US
Phone: 8179387386
Fax: 8179387386
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Record Information: 
Domain Record Created: June 29, 2003 03:40
Domain Record Updated: June 29, 2003 03:45
Domain Record Expires: June 29, 2004 03:40

Web site is hosted at: www.omnis.com

opticomposhop.com

Well this is my favorite...

They can give you anything you want...
They even have an address and phone number:
Our postal address is 


optiCompo Electronics
c/o Embedded-inet Solutions
Tuchmacherstr. 50
14482 Potsdam, Germany

Phone:
Fax: +49 - 331 - 740 4531
+49 - 331 - 740 0319 

I am checking this out and it is not too good

OptiCompo Electronics originated in a group of people who like to develop
usefull things and new devices.
The fields of interest reach from Multimedia products to Microcontroller
based Embedded-Systems. 

WOW HARD WORDS FOR SCAMMER LIKE THESE... Notice how they write usefull
REALLLY

OptiCompo Electronics is approved by E-gold, to use the e-gold currency
as a payment solution for our online shop. 

WHERE THE F**K IS THIS APPROVED BY E-GOLD IN THEIR DREAMS!!!
They even have a link to the e-gold's approved merchants directory...

Have E-gold Admin(s) seen this?? Did they?
What the F**K? Just type e-gold in google and it is the second sponsored
link... after ofcourse www.e-goldtransfer.com... and followed by
www.cash-financial.net Guess what the next one is:
www.xhp-exchange.com ...  NO here it comes www.loan-gold.com ... let's
don't forget about crazyxchange.com
The OptiLombocombomombo... shop is:
We are open for any remarks and annotations, just mail us! 

Please e-mail them about their moms!!! Please!

Since march 

[e-gold-list] Re: Regarding crooks!!! Very Interesting! I think :)

2003-07-28 Thread Robert S.Z.
A bogus registrant address does not automatically make a site crook.
We register hundreds of domains and hold them in trust for customers who
value their privacy and we host several sites that appear to have strange
domain name registrant details, which using your black and white measure
would all be seen as suspect.

About as suspect as someone who posts negative claims about websites using
a freemail address. If you have more sustantial evidence, present it. If
not, well then you might just be operating a crooked site yourself and are
trying to bad-mouth your competition? Who can tell?

Leaves to say that we don't host any of the sites you listed. Therefore
there is no benefit for us in me defending those sites. I just have a
thing against shoot first, analyze later type of posts.

One might say I hate prejudice and generalisations.

Cheers,
Robert.

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[e-gold-list] Re: Need a couple of e-gold testers for my web site

2003-07-28 Thread Matthew Gelber
My web site tests out great!  I know most you are men  have no interest
at all in women's jewelry... but trust me, the women in your life do, and
if you buy them something from my site it won't cost you much but the
women will be happy, which makes your life much easier!  Plus my prices
are really really good, if anyone out there knows about jewelry they will
back me up on this.

If you want to use e-Gold  get the 10% discount I am offering to e-Gold
users, please use this address as an entry point:

http://www.treasuredfinds.com/egwelcome.asp?ref=eg

The nicest  best-priced items are any of the silver jewelry in the New
Items section.

All feedback welcome!

Matthew Gelber


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[e-gold-list] VoIP that accepts e-gold

2003-07-28 Thread David Gendron
Hey Guys and Gal's,

Since we're on the topic of VoIP I'll introduce you to
http://valis.calltheplanet.com.  I currently use this service and the
quality is the same or better than my land line (in Canada) which is
saying a lot.  Canada-USA is virtually perfect using landline but when
talking to other courntries there is often degredation due to different
qualities on the throughput, well, using the VoIP box only the last mile
is landline so the quality to these places tends to be better than if you
weren't using the box.

The best news is that they do accept e-gold.  That's the only way I pay
for the service.

Thank you,
 
David Gendron, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VALIS International, http://www2.valisinternational.com
US Bank Accounts and US Business Presence 
Setup for the World

How about a 

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[e-gold-list] Paypal alternative?

2003-07-28 Thread Max Bear
Hello,

Is there any other good payment system which is
similar to paypal?

Or does anybody know if there is any paypal like
system to sell? It's not necessary to take credit
card.

Max





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[e-gold-list] Re: Paypal alternative?

2003-07-28 Thread Yog Yatry
Please check www.mypaysystem.com

regards - yatry


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Subject: [e-gold-list] Paypal alternative?


 Hello,
 
 Is there any other good payment system which is
 similar to paypal?
 
 Or does anybody know if there is any paypal like
 system to sell? It's not necessary to take credit
 card.
 
 Max



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[e-gold-list] RE: Regarding crooks!!! Very Interesting! I think :)

2003-07-28 Thread Ian Green
Very interesting indeed.

Are you sure you are not actually promoting these websites? After all,
if you had *actual* bad experiences / been ripped off by them, or
whatever, then you should have let us know.

Otherwise it might be possible to suspect that by posting (potentially
unreasonable) claims of bad impressions about an interesting list of
online financial services you are actually getting a group of qualified
prospects to check them out for themselves! All without appearing to be
promoting them. Very ingenious, indeed! Maybe you are actually an
advertising genius? You have done all of this without giving us any
similar clue as to your *own* identity.

In one case your only suspicion against a domain is that it is in the
middle east, and you are nervous about having any appearance of any
connection to anyone of middle-eastern appearance!

Another thing that makes me suspect this is what is happening is that
some of the domains appear to have only just been registered. Time zone
difference may account for the future dating of the second record I
quote below, but surely you either registered it yourself or you are the
first person to visit it? This does not even account for the time needed
for the DNS details to propagate throughout the Internet!

 From: Fraud Party [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:24:29 -0400


 Domain Name.. e-goldtransfer.com
 Creation Date 2003-06-27
 Registration Date 2003-06-27

And another one:


 Whois Output for: xhp-exchange.com


 Record Information: 
 Domain Record Created: June 29, 2003 03:40
 Domain Record Updated: June 29, 2003 03:45
 Domain Record Expires: June 29, 2004 03:40
 

Anyway, you are most welcome to post more fraud suspicions, but please
include something more solid to go on, and maybe your *own* name, home
address and phone number. ;)

Regards,

Ian Green
http://107242.e-gold.com
 


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