[e-gold-list] Re: Theft!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would really depend on when the customer's spends were made. If they are recent, then I would suggest the customer give further information so that assistance may be given. Judging by the amount of $750, if the spends were made sometime in November or December of last year, it was actually a spend into the former ee-bizventures program on their $375 level. EBV changed that particular account to the "legal defense fund" when they claimed that they were facing legal difficulties and required everyone to make a spend to keep their program going. It would certainly be helpful for someone making such a claim to provide additional information instead of hitting the list with vague threats. David - Original Message - From: "CCS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 4:22 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Theft! Just what legal defense fund do you suppose this refers to? Perhaps it is for some scam and this guy doesn't realize that e-gold has nothing to do with it. CCS > I had an initial amount of $750.00 stolen from my e-gold > account by the legal defense fund!! I did not > authorize them to do so. So far I have only rec'd the run > around.. I suggest they return the $750.00 w/ interest or > suffer repercussions. > > Brett Long > ph# 541-347-6321 or 3390 > -- > http://card.netscape.com/brettheckler1 > > http://www.mlmwnt.com > > > When entering the mlmwnt.com site for the 1st time,click NEW Visitor,then enter your name,country,e-mail address & > Brett H. Long & Associates as your referral. You may also use acct#000521281 > > > _ _ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Fw: Re osgold.com
Michael, For the sake of not missing any of your points, I included your text along with my replies in ( ) There is no email on the site, no names or anyway you can establish who is behind it. (On the front page, it lists the two corporations behind it. More contact information will be added tomorrow, as the service just launched) No indication of where 'the gold' is. Just says in an 'offshore bank' (There are two banks involved, one in Panama, where the company home office is, and another in Latvia) The osgold site has their own e-gold account number which is: 273002. I opened a test account with osgold and attempted a spend from one of my e-gold accounts of 50 cents. The transaction went through as there was a 50cent deduction from my e-gold account. It did not appear in the osgold account and an error message came up encouraging me to 'try again' When I saw that I rolled on the floor laughing. (Our technicians are working on this difficulty. 99% of transactions have gone through and credited the customer's account. The 1% that have not have been credited to a customer's account within 16 hours) I then went to their support page which has a feedback form on and filled that out with the complaint that my 50 cents had disappeared. I got an auto responder come back from a [EMAIL PROTECTED] which I located came from Malaysia (It may be from elsewhere of course and bounced). (The server is in Malaysia) My conclusion from this, 1) Is that osgold is an attempt to collect spends from e-gold accounts. There is no apparent way you can spend the osgold to any merchants, only to other osgold account which I imagine would be very few. (You would be VERY wrong on this statement, as in the last 24 hours, over 2200 new accounts have been created. When e-gold first launched, I don't remember seeing a list of merchants waiting to accept e-gold as payment either. We have actually already set up several service providers who will accept OSGold for payment. The site just launched, and these things take time.) 2) Looks like osgold is piggy backing off e-gold. e-gold might want to have a look at that. Osgold is not professing to be a market maker but an 'e-gold' in its own right. (OSGold is a clear alternative to e-gold. We do not wish to "piggyback" off of anyone. We merely provide e-gold exchange as a benefit to our customers, much the same way many offshore banks now do the same. many of the market makers, whether approved by e-gold or private, are now accepting exchanges from different payment alternatives.) (It actually amazes me that one would suggest that e-gold might want to have a look into what we are doing. By all means, everyone should have a look. But, the mere statement you made does imply a certain impropriety on our part, which is unfounded. E-Gold provides payment services. OSgold is just one step in a whole suite of services which will be offered to the public over the next several months.) 3) I would steer clear of Osgold until their bona fides can be established if possible. (Bona fides can, and will, be established. Like I said befre, the site is young, and just launched officially yesterday. There is much work still to be done. If a person would feel better waiting until that work is done to create an account with OSGold, then by all means that is what they should do.) I know what is in store for the future of One Groupe International, but it takes time to prove it and that is what will be done. We will prove it day by day. David --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Re osgold.com
Sidd, First of all, I would like to say that I appreciate your comments, as I can always count on you to look into the technical side of a site with the most critical eye I have EVER seen in a discussion list. Your use of "snippets" to create a whole picture is quite amazing. You have taken several different ideas/plans for the future and attempted to roll them into this one site. I have included your comments, each followed by mine in ( ). He wants us to send our MONEY to him but he gives ABSOLUTELY NO representation about how he will deal with our money. There are NO terms and conditions, agreements or any other guarantees or other legal requirements on the site. (The legal requirements are on the site at http://www.osgold.com/services/terms.html) Look at these Classic snippets from the web site: "An OSGold Account is an online monetary system which allows you to convert money to gold, and then retain it online" hm... and then... "Store your GOLD in an Offshore Bank, where a transfer is as easy as clicking a button, and you immediately begin to earn a very nice interest on that gold. Your gold is immediately converted to a cash value to protect you from the fluctuation in gold prices. Yet, you can convert back to OSGold at any time FOR FREE" Ah... so now the gold I am retaining on line is actually CASH to protect against gold price changes... so what is it then, online gold or online cash?! Is there REALLY any gold there at all? The gold is in an offshore Bank?!? You earn "a(sic) very nice INTEREST" on your gold??! This is at least educational :) (You write this as if it is included in the site description, but it is actually in the coming soon category where we discuss the future services which will be available. The gold you put into the OSGold site will remain as gold, and the goldbank is another site alltogether.) "Investigate new opportunities, where your principal is guaranteed, where due diligence has been accomplished...where scams don't exist..." (This, again, is from the coming soon page and there will be legitimate investment opportunities offered through another site as well.) Wow, now we're in heaven! And just as an interesting aside (amidst the thousands of other questions going through my head) the security is done by HEN Inc.??? (Just wondering, what is interesting about this?) It may be going too far to call this a scam, but lets face it, there is no way this set up elicits TRUST! Maybe I am just suspicious? (Too suspicious, no. Jumping to false conclusions based on the improper use of small site snippets, YES.) The site will be fully updated with all necessary contact information this week. One thing that I would ask is this: You are basing a lot of trust issues on the fact that there is no contact information. With e-gold, the information is provided. Yet you may still wait a week or two to receive a reply from them. Actually, you may never receive a reply from them when asking questions about your account. In a little over 24 hours, our support team has answered/resolved over 500 inquiries and questions. We actually GUARANTEE a 24 hour turn around time for response to questions. You mentioned in an earlier post that the site is unprofessional. When, in truth, the site was not designed for the technical mind. The site was designed for users who are fed up with "technically sound" sites and unnecessary clutter. What you call unprofessional, our users are calling a breath of fresh air. Yes, the site still needs work. And yes, there will be full contact information given on the site over the next few days along with the many other updates we have planned. At the same time, our straightforward approach and simple design has attracted the creation of over 2500 new accounts in the 30 hours the site has been open for business. While you may be unfamiliar with One Groupe International, the Internet at large is familiar with us and we have already built a relationship of trust with our current clients. Rome was not built in a day, and neither was E-Gold, Amazon, Yahoo, AOL, or any of the other successful Internet sites. Warmest regards, David --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
