[e-gold-list] NZ banks
Sidd wrote: To put this into perspective though, consider the devastation of the USD. My interest is in New Zealand, where I reside for much of the time. The USD/NZD exchange rate on this day 2001 was 2.41663 http://www.oanda.com/convert/classic Today the USD/NZD exchange rate is 1.54696 This shows an increase of 56% over the 2001 price. Thus, I have been MUCH better off keeping my money in a NZ bank at an interest rate of 6.5% than I would have been if I had kept it in gold. Can you recommend an NZ bank that accepts deposit accounts (preferably with VISA debit card) from non-natives, offers that 6.5% rate, and doesn't soak you on conversion fees ? Mike. -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] The EUnuchs
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=5838 Loose Canons Would You Believe? (Neither do I.) By Jed Babbin Published 12/1/2003 12:08:13 AM LONDON -- Would you believe you can create an economic superpower by combining many weak economies into one that's centrally-controlled by a bureaucracy unaccountable to voters? Would you believe that a bunch of countries that refuse to spend at an adult level to provide for their own defense now want to devote a chunk of their scarce military resources to make themselves independent militarily of the U.S.? Well, chief, if you believe that you must be a big supporter of the European Union. Tottering Along Nicely is one of those popular Brit TV shows in which the Brits poke fun at their own foibles, and it's pretty funny. But watching BBC you'll never learn that the EU reached its apogee last week, and the only direction it will go from here is down. The EUnuchs thundered and blundered on both economics and defense in ways that will eventually sink their attempted alliance. One of the principles the EU is founded upon is that the quasi-socialist governments of its biggest members needed to be protected from the profligacy of the others. In the mid-1990s, Germany insisted on and obtained agreement that if any EU member had a national debt in excess of 3% of its gross domestic product, it is susceptible to fines and other sanctions by the EU. This was aimed at Italy, which -- like France and most of the rest -- was debt-ridden and thought to be unable to recover without drastic reforms. That's the advertised product. But that's not what the EUnuchs deliver of course. None of the EU nations have been willing to face the problems caused by their semi-socialist policies that preclude significant economic growth. Sclerotic economies are the norm in Europe, aging populations brutalized by taxes and not even able to reproduce to create a new generation to pay for the old. The EU's own books -- reflecting the bureaucracy's spending habits -- don't balance enough for outside auditors to even say they're accurate. France -- recently most famous for letting ten thousand of its citoyens die in a heat wave because everyone responsible for dealing with the problem was on vacation -- has reached a level of decadence unseen since Madame Guillotine first came to prominence in 1789. Staggering wages, frequent strikes, statutorily-created long vacations and breathtaking taxation have resulted in French debt in excess of 3% of its Gross Domestic Product for the third year in a row. Germany, also in the Red in more ways than one, also exceeds the 3% threshold. All that made both countries susceptible of fines for breaking the rules designed to protect the Euro. But there they go again. Last week the two founding members of the Axis of Weasels railroaded an agreement that broke the Euro deal, and that Humpty Dumpty won't ever be put together again. Now, the rest of the EU members -- many of which are not EUnuchs, such as Spain -- are left holding the bag for their supposed economic partners. It is only a matter of time before this problem unravels the whole EU deal. The problem for us is that the political momentum behind the EU ensures that it may totter along nicely for another five or ten or twenty years before it comes apart. Too many politicians have too much invested in the EU to let it fall apart over something as petty as the foundational economic principles. Even Tony Blair -- under fire in his own nation for rising crime and discontent over British participation in the war in Iraq -- is edging along the EU deal in trepidation. The EU economic shenanigans and the defense deal that is still evolving may yet damage fatally our only important military alliance, NATO. It's all in the math. The kerfuffle over the separate EU defense force is important, but more symbolic of the problem than a real blow to NATO. The Weasels want a defense structure that is capable of operating independently of NATO, which is fine. If Europe will take on the burden of peacekeeping operations and other matters in which American interests aren't clearly implicated, we should encourage them to do so, and we have. The principal reason that NATO is strong is that its forces train together and operate with weapon systems that are, at least mostly, compatible with each other. At the base of the Weasels' ambitions is to build a defense force that not only is capable of operating independently from American forces, but is equipped with European-made weapon systems. For the head weasel, France's Chirac, it's always about the money. If France can divorce the EU from NATO, France's defense manufacturers may be able to profit from increased sales (if there were any to all the EU nations' defense establishments, which there ain't). We live in an era of plug and play warfare. In the Iraq campaign, the intensity of the conflict was an essential part of the successful strategy. Compatibility and some
[e-gold-list] Re: NZ banks
At 10:56 PM +1300 12/4/03, Graham Kelly wrote: MS, Can I assist? I cannot get you a NZ account, but I can help other ways, maybe! Graham Kelly CEO CEO of what? Can you recommend an NZ bank that accepts deposit accounts (preferably with VISA debit card) from non-natives, offers that 6.5% rate, and doesn't soak you on conversion fees ? What I'm looking for should be obvious: A debit card with low or no currency-conversion fees which I can use anywhere in the world, off a deposit account with a decent rate of interest, in a currency which equals or beats gold. If should also be easy to move funds into and out of the account, and not require an insane amount of bullshit to set up. The issuer should also have an 800 number (preferably 24/7) in order to deal with problems (such as placing a lock on my account in the event of a stolen card). Mike. -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: NZ banks
Mike, What I'm looking for should be obvious: A debit card with low or no currency-conversion fees which I can use anywhere in the world, off a deposit account with a decent rate of interest, in a currency which equals or beats gold. If should also be easy to move funds into and out of the account, and not require an insane amount of bullshit to set up. The issuer should also have an 800 number (preferably 24/7) in order to deal with problems (such as placing a lock on my account in the event of a stolen card). I have been informed that all banks in New Zealand issue debit cards but you need to *front up* to get them. What do you mean by front up? (You mean deposit actual funds? Well, that goes without saying for a debit card.) You can't send funds out of the country online either but you can fax the New Zealand banks International payment orders. If I have a debit-Visa, then that's a moot point. Here's what I want: [1] I deposit account in a bank in a nation with a stable currency (i.e., which equals or beats gold in interest RoR). [2] Issues a debit-Visa card which works flawlessly anywhere Visa is accepted. The issuer's systems would perform conversion on-the-fly with low or no transaction fee (so, for example, if it's NZ account, and I put in twenty bucks US worth of gas into my car in Chicago, not only will the credi-pay pump take the card, but I won't end up looking at a huge surcharge on my statement because I bought something that wasn't NZ-denominated. [3] Movin' me swag back and forth to, say, Ameritrade, should be as painless as wiring to and fro from a US bank. Mike. -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Some charts
http://www.sharelynx.net/Markets/GoldCharts.htm Mike. -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] High-interest accounts?
At 3:30 AM -0600 11/13/03, Mike Schneider wrote: [in another thread] Meanwhile, I gotta track down a rumor of a Monte Carlo bank offering 22% interest on numbered-account deposits. Well, that rumor went bust after much fruitless searching. What are some top rates for bank deposit accounts (esp. non-US or numbered, and offering Visa or other debit cards, e-gold or not) that y'all may have encountered? Mike. -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: High-interest accounts?
At 9:56 PM -0500 11/16/03, Adam Selene wrote: snip What's the best rate (either vs. gold or vs. dollar or vs other relatively stable currency or commodity) that you've heard of? Mike. -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Meltdown in Middle East Ignites Gold
At 1:05 AM -0600 11/13/03, Jim Davidson wrote: From: R. J. Tavel, J.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gee, I've seen that name before. The J.D. hazards a guess. My take: Gold will be moving down relative to currencies in coming months, and these guys want suckers to buy at current market-highs. So, Mike, is that like, a guess? Or are you doing the contrarian thing by looking at the ads and touts as a gauge of a top? The latter. These ads appear to target the Opus segment of the credulous market. My expectation is that gold will run up through $400 in the next few weeks, probably reaching a short-term top around $415. That would explain the ads: Selling a top. Robert Prechter was in New Orleans earlier this month insisting that gold would drop in two major strokes to around $200 before coming back up. He was alone in this view. What was his time-frame for $200? That seems a little rich. Various others at the New Orleans conference felt that gold would certainly rise as the public becomes aware that there are gains to be had. Kinda like the stock market bandwagon, but with better fundamentals. The supply trap is still there, my friend. Gold exploration has been negligible for the period from roughly 1996 to 2003. From exploration to gold bullion on the market is 36 to 60 months. Demand seems to be increasing, too, with plenty of new demand coming on the market now that China has allowed for private individuals there to own gold. While this may be true, the dollar/gold ratio is dependant more on the money supply rather than gold supply demand, and big shakers may have an inside info track to Greenspan, et al. Many speakers at the New Orleans (Blanchard) show seem to feel that dollar shorting is a key part of the increase in gold's price. Flight to quality. I seem to recall that being mentioned by James Turk of GoldMoney.com in his presentation as well as by Doug Casey of International Speculator. Doug also feels strongly that it is only a matter of time before a USA city gets nuked by terrorists, judging by his comments. Hmm! (The spate of new currency re-issues are almost tailored to preferential treatment in the event of an emergency.) In his presentation, James Turk suggested that the 1980 price spike was a flagpole and that there is a pennant formation which recently ended extending from that flagpole. If so, technical analysis theory suggests that one should expect the current bull market to result in a price that combines the height of the flagpole with an added height equal to the length of the pennant - though transposing the units of time to the price axis is still puzzling me. Oh brother Never trust fundamentals when everybody's micro-analyzing fundamentals. Meanwhile, I gotta track down a rumor of a Monte Carlo bank offering 22% interest on numbered-account deposits. Many others compared the current situation to the period from 1971 to 1980. If that were to repeat, and we were to take a baseline of 1971 at $35 per ounce against a baseline of $254 per ounce then the increase to $895 intra-day in January 1980 would be a 25.57 times increase and multiplying $254 times 25.57 gets us $6494.78 per ounce in a few years time. It's a poor analogy, considering that that the Nixon period includes a one-time going-off-of-fixed-price giant leap. Hyperinflation after a nuke attack is the only thing that might result in that, but if the afterward government repudiated all-green paper currency (hunks of it sitting in overseas, a significant percentage of it deduced to be counterfeit) and tells the electorate Sorry, but welfare-state Marxism is over due to technical difficulties, the dollar could recover almost immediately. Mike. -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Meltdown in Middle East Ignites Gold
From: R. J. Tavel, J.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: advertising spam for gold-mutuals snipped Last night I noticed a barrage of gold-bullion ads on television, and today this guy is pressing the Yahoo! groups. My take: Gold will be moving down relative to currencies in coming months, and these guys want suckers to buy at current market-highs. Mike. -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Just when you thought it was safe...
At 8:26 PM +1200 11/11/03, Graham Kelly wrote: Hmmm, interesting perception, Sidd. Though it begs the question, *who* exactly is in the dark? Perhaps the market makers are in the dark, and the customers are the enlightened ones! What the world needs is a world-wide private-sector 24/7 stock-market exchange which converts currency on-the-fly to e-gold and is not enslaved to government edict or regulatory shenanigans. Anyone out there trying to set one up? Mike. -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Saving (was Re: e-gold for stocks)
At 7:23 PM +0200 11/7/03, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: I only pointed out that in a paper money system there is more incentive to 'invest' the money. How so (if you're not pointing to the propensity of governments to spread around inflationary fait paper to garner support)? In a technological age, it's unnecessary for money (whether paper or gold or two-ton yap stones) to even be handled, only that you be known to be good for it. Literally, you are given a loan, and buy based off that credit, and when you realize a return on your investment, pay off the loan. Physical money never leaves the bank vault. Mike. -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Use e-gold for *this* baby
At 4:33 AM +1200 11/9/03, Graham Kelly wrote: Guys, I have today updated my gyro picture site http://community.webshots.com/user/kelly_clan I have now over 40 [as yet unpaid] orders for the gyro aircraft, and I Close-up pic: http://www.UFO-Helithruster.com/images/1_UFO_L_side_taxi_Green_a.JPG Interesting One question: Is it possible to glide and land your autogyro dead-stick? Mike. -- http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
