[e-gold-list] Same Scam, second verse...
http://www.free-market.net/forums/e-gold0008/messages/677659202.html and surrounding messages indicate that someone still needs some long treatises on morality, etc. REMEMBER! DO NOT enter correct account info on the e-qold (that's a Q) site. The e-gold (with a G) guys are (once again) complaining, but other measures -- depending on um...your own creativity are invited. I'd note that if law enforcement weren't so damned busy with that criminal Parker Bradley they might have more resources to devote to this problem, but that would be a very-nasty thing for me to say. sigh... jammer99 Free, encrypted, secure Web-based email at www.hushmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Let's help the e-Qold guy!
Examination of the bogus "e-qold" site reveals that stolen passwords then sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (This is revealed in the www.e-Qold.com html, so I'm ccing the Altavista abuse address, along with our new friend's altavista address.) Perhaps we should all send this entity our thoughts on e-gold passphrase theft? Folks might also want to enter their own account numbers and then a "creative" non-password, too, right on the scammer's site! These are just educational suggestions, meant to assist this person in assessing the morality of his/her actions. Some of you might even want to send this person large quantities of information about e-gold, your personal ruminations on morality and/or theology and/or ethics, and all manner of other useful e-mail things, I don't know! Just a thought. jammer99 Free, encrypted, secure Web-based email at www.hushmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Bigtime Fraud
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/26868.htm This guy obviously practiced a Willie Sutton "because that's where the money is" philosophy. jammer Free, encrypted, secure Web-based email at www.hushmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Interesting article about money laundering
http://cryptome.org/money-double.htm from the venerable John Young. I've also seen figures saying that US taxpayers basically see $1 siezed for every $22 spent, something for them to think about this April 15th, i guess. jammer Free, encrypted, secure Web-based email at www.hushmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Inquiring Minds
which Costa apparently tried to circumvent) and their user agreement says nothing about taking the fall for scammers. Viking made the best suggestion, forget the gold for ten years and then go back and claim the loot when the law's not sniffing about. One thing's for sure -- if the crook(s) had gotten away with that $1.1M Outexchange and made off with the loot, you'd be 100% guaranteed shit-outta- luck. As it is, you should be thanking your lucky stars for both of the user agreements that you so dislike reading, since they're all that's giving you even a snowflake's chance in hell of getting your gold back. If the government of the U.S. is involved in e-gold/OmniPay business, in order to make a statement against "Costa"-types of business on the internet, then there is NO hope for ANY of this. The TRUTH WILL prevail, eventually. Omnipay says it follows US laws, but I see no evidence (apart from your ravings, that is) for them being the feds. That evidence seems weak, but the evidence that Costa Gold is made up of (somewhat incompetent) crook(s) is pretty powerful. You trusted a crooked scammer, and your money's now effectively gone, only instead of being gone the usual way (stolen) it's still visible in the publicly-viewable escrow account, and nobody gets to use it. That must be frustrating, but you might want to consider this loss a "costa" doing 'business' with these types of Ponzi schmes. (I kinda hope the Gold Casino or some legitimate game site makes a fun/funny bet out of "will the Costagold people ever get their gold back, and if so when?") The OmniPay folks AND their escrow folks should NOT trample on the rights to privacy of "foreign individuals" .. this issue impacts the privacy rights of ALL of us ... you too, "Viking". ... If by "privacy rights" you mean "the right to reinterpret the e-gold OmniPay user agreements to include terms they already explicitly EXclude," you're going to be griping without success for a while. e-gold gives you OK privacy, but not anonymity. OmniPay uses US banks to pay customers, which means you must look to those banks for privacy (good luck). None of this is/was a big secret when you got an e-gold account. If you want to use anonymous cash to pay scammers, find something else like green paper or digigold or even physical pieces of gold and have at it! You even suggested that internet dollar system, which might be a better choice for a typical scammers' marks^H^H^H^H^Hcustomers because it's not grams of metal. It is odd that you attack the pseudonymity of Viking Coder (easier than arguing with him on your facts, so I guess I can't blame you..) yet at the same time, you seem to be an absolutist regarding "foreign individuals" and privacy of any sort. I detect a bit of a double-standard. jammer99 . IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you are not using HushMail, this message could have been read easily by the many people who have access to your open personal email messages. Get your FREE, totally secure email address at http://www.hushmail.com. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] GATA goes to South Africa
http://www.gata.org/latest.html There's also a new "RealPlayer" clip of Mr. Murphy on the page, it gets a bit much with the music, but it's interesting they're still kicking along. D-Day for their lawsuit is March 15th. jammer99 IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you are not using HushMail, this message could have been read easily by the many people who have access to your open personal email messages. Get your FREE, totally secure email address at http://www.hushmail.com. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Inflation on the horizon?
http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/010216/n13697011.html IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you are not using HushMail, this message could have been read easily by the many people who have access to your open personal email messages. Get your FREE, totally secure email address at http://www.hushmail.com. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] I wish them luck
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010124/ny_world_g.html The WGC is again thinking about how to market gold, which throughout history has been the most wanted substance on the planet, or one of them. They hired a big firm (see story). This certainly sounds like a better strategy than their previous (futile, and I told them so at the time, before they had failed) strategy of attempting to convince central bankers to do what they obviously DIDN'T want to do, and $50 million is a lot of loot. I think that if they put $1 million of that into buying a big pile of e-gold, right now, they could do wonders for gold miners, e-gold, and the WGC. I wonder if they'll be that smart? Here's hoping so. jammer99 IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you are not using HushMail, this message could have been read easily by the many people who have access to your open personal email messages. Get your FREE, totally secure email address at http://www.hushmail.com. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] hacking?? I don't see evidence.
Yes, e-gold is BIG business and as such it is utterly INEXCUSABLE that they do not have 24/7 live tech support and are not working their a**es off making our e-gold accounts opaque to hackers. I know of one person who had I5K removed from his account, and just this week two people I know have had attempts at hacking their e-gold accounts, in one case rendering it useless for spends. If you click on every untrusted executable sent to you, there's nothing that e-gold [or anyone else] could do. It's called evolution in action. I'm betting that happened here. Why? Well, take a look at the message above. "15K" is almost certainly a reference to dollars, and yet we know e-gold is grams, BUT...Scams and/or ponzi schemes tend to describe their outsized-compared-to-Ponzi's-promises in terms of dollars, and then expect to use e-gold as a source of free technical support for their exceptionally dumb customers. 24-7 tech support can't protect your e-gold passphrase if you click on every attachment sent to you, and people who tend to fall for schemes like 'ebiz' (let's be honest here) aren't exactly the brightest folks on the planet when it comes to other aspects of life. It doesn't matter what operating system you or e-gold installs next. I see no evidence that *e-gold* computers have _ever_ been compromised, but e-gold can't help the owners of insecure remote computers if they won't help themselves (and I think they're answering emails in a timely manner these days). jammer99 Free, encrypted, secure Web-based email at www.hushmail.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you are not using HushMail, this message could have been read easily by the many people who have access to your open personal email messages. Get your FREE, totally secure email address at http://www.hushmail.com. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Those brilliant Brits
http://cnniw.yellowbrix.com/pages/cnniw/Story.nsp?story_id=17289745ID=cnniwscategory=Metals+%26+Minerals%3APrecious Gosh, what a shock that socialists can't get selling gold right for the taxpayers. Slowly, the WGC is getting the clue that GATA had a year ago, and someday the "mainstream" media may even get that very same clue. jammer99 IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you are not using HushMail, this message could have been read easily by the many people who have access to your open personal email messages. Get your FREE, totally secure email address at http://www.hushmail.com. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Glencannon's wrong, IMO
Here's why. Substitute "Yen" when he says or means "grams of gold" and you'll see that it does not make sense anymore. A big multinational won't LIKE having another currency to deal with, but they're entirely used to dealing with a variety of currencies every day, and with computers it's no big problem for even relatively-small businesses to calculate capital gains and losses (I'm at a loss as to how storage or spend fees play into this, especially since one gets calculated in weight and the other in dollars). Clearly not all financial activity in the e-gold system is reported to tax authorities, nor should it be IMO. That makes e-gold no different than dollars, and the federal government will probably figure that out, eventually, after wasting lots of time and money first. I also think the root of e-gold and OmniPay's customer service problems is indeed scams like "ebiz," which appears to be merely a particularly brazen and well-done Ponzi scheme. If I am wrong about this (I have not signed up for their service, as I don't trust them with my gold!) then could one of their proponents please give a coherent answer as to exactly what business they DO do??? One guy on the free-market.net board suggested they're identity takers, which makes sense, considering they want your tax info while failing to identify themselves to you in any way. No response to him yet from the scammers... Anyway, the problem with scams is that it brings a new and much stupider crop of folks in to try and understand e-gold, which has never been that simple even before scams started misrepresenting grams as "dollars," because it makes the scammin' easier than a truthful explanation. BUT, stupid as these newcomers are (and we've spent the last week watching them get skewered here, apparently Delphi's more welcoming to idiots with more hope than sense!) it's hard to feel sorry for them, because even they know it's a scam, and these fools seem universally to be relying on an even- greater set of fools to come along double/triple their money in X days. The problem is that even dimwits, thank god, have limits on how fast they can breed, and scams are so desperate and running out of morons that they actually refer to the failures of previous scammers instead of just keeping mum. Stupider people take more customer service time and money than college-educated, hard money conservative economics types that used to populate this list in the old days before scams like ebiz came along, and we suffer for it if we need help from OmniPay... Will scams ever go away entirely? No, not as long as greed accompanies stupidity, BUT I predict Glencannon is exactly wrong, and that more "mainstream" companies WILL pick up e-gold. They're sheep, and they're not especially smart, but all it takes is one and the rest will follow [while saying it was their idea]. I predict even the mainstream media will finally notice e-gold next year, and they will grow like mad then. In fact, I think that Amazon.com is going to have an e-gold account 365 days from now or, alternatively, they'll be in bankruptcy. e-gold seems to be about the only thing that can save both them and a lot of other fundamentally-fucked-up dot.com's, and that's going to work to all our benefits (even Glencannon's) in the gold economy next year. IMNSHO, YMMV, etc. jammer99 Barbara Feldon rulez 86 IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you are not using HushMail, this message could have been read easily by the many people who have access to your open personal email messages. Get your FREE, totally secure email address at http://www.hushmail.com. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
