[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread Julian Morrison

"James M. Ray" wrote:
> 
> http://news.independent.co.uk/digital/update/story.jsp?story=79745
> 
> "If you don't have any facts, why waste valuable time asking for them?
> Just skim a few articles and then dream up whatever sounds right!"
>

I don't like the tone of these recent news articles. "ungovernable",
"money laundering" and other statist blatherings.

Well they're right about one thing - this idea of digital gold money is
well and truly out there, and I suspect the free market will find routes
around any attempt to stomp or subvert it. I just hope the current
companies have structured themselves to be hard to stomp.

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[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread Viking Coder

> Actually, you got that backwards:
> 
> GoldMoney is incorporated in the Bahamas
> Their operational corporate HQ is in the Isle of Man.

Oops... 

GoldMoney's corporate HQ is operated by Net Transactions Ltd. which is
incorporated in, and run out of, the Bahamas.

GoldMoney's administrative HQ is operated by Discus Ltd. which is run out
of the Isle of Man. Their domain name is registered to G.M. Network Ltd.;
same address in the Isle of Man. Their servers are located in St. Helier,
on Jersey Island, also in the British Isles.


Viking Coder

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[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.

On 26 Jun 2001, at 12:02, Viking Coder wrote:

> > Well, Gold Money IS incorporated in the Bahamas.
> > 
> 
> Their corporate headquarters are in the Bahamas, but they are
> incorporated out of, and have their administrative headquarters in,
> the British Isles (Isle of Man).

The GoldMoney system is operated by Net Transactions Ltd., which 
holds the exclusive right of use of the GoldMoney trademark. 
Net Transactions Ltd. is a limited liability company incorporated in the 
Bahamas, registration number 115,419B. 
 


Claude

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[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread Ken Griffith

Actually, you got that backwards:

GoldMoney is incorporated in the Bahamas
Their operational corporate HQ is in the Isle of Man.

- Original Message -
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> > Well, Gold Money IS incorporated in the Bahamas.
> >
>
> Their corporate headquarters are in the Bahamas, but they are incorporated
> out of, and have their administrative headquarters in, the British Isles
> (Isle of Man).
>
> This reporter did even less research than Declan did a little while ago.
> Leo has fully earned the title of 'schmuck'; even to the point of removing
> it from Declan.
>
> Leo even claims that the idea of a GBC was created after the dot-com bust.
> e-gold went live long before anybody ever heard the phrase "dot-com".
>
>
> Viking Coder
> 
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[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread Viking Coder

> Well, Gold Money IS incorporated in the Bahamas.
> 

Their corporate headquarters are in the Bahamas, but they are incorporated
out of, and have their administrative headquarters in, the British Isles
(Isle of Man).

This reporter did even less research than Declan did a little while ago.
Leo has fully earned the title of 'schmuck'; even to the point of removing
it from Declan.

Leo even claims that the idea of a GBC was created after the dot-com bust.
e-gold went live long before anybody ever heard the phrase "dot-com".


Viking Coder

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[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread Ken Griffith

Well, Gold Money IS incorporated in the Bahamas.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:53 AM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters


>
> > http://news.independent.co.uk/digital/update/story.jsp?story=79745
> >
> > "If you don't have any facts, why waste valuable time asking for them?
> > Just skim a few articles and then dream up whatever sounds right!"
> > JMR
>
> Incredible! Did they get anything right?
>
> * Gold Currencies are only 6 months old.
> * Amazon.com is a big promoter
> * GoldMoney is based in the Bahamas
> * Exchange fees are a flat $1.00 US
>
>
> SnowDog
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[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread James M. Ray

At 08:53 AM -0500 06/26/2001, SnowDog wrote:
>> http://news.independent.co.uk/digital/update/story.jsp?story=79745  
>> 
>> "If you don't have any facts, why waste valuable time asking for them?
>> Just skim a few articles and then dream up whatever sounds right!" 
>> JMR
>
>Incredible! Did they get anything right?

...

Mr. Lewis does meet the "makes Jim Ray very sarcastic" requirement. 

Seriously, I think he falls into a "beyond hope for any cluestick" category,
so I haven't even bothered to write him or try to set him straight.
JMR


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[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread Michael Moore




> http://news.independent.co.uk/digital/update/story.jsp?story=79745
>
> "If you don't have any facts, why waste valuable time asking for them?
> Just skim a few articles and then dream up whatever sounds right!"
> JMR


This is a PR job.  Facts are irrelevant.  Positioning and perception are
not.

If this were traced back you would most likely find it came from one of the
PR houses around the traps  and the Journalist has just put his name to it.
IF  it is not under a house name.

Newspapers  are generally short staffed and journalists have little time to
go out diggin' for facts so they tend to grab the PR crap churned out by
lobby groups and  'Public Affairs' front companies owned out by government
depts. and special interests.  We have the same here.  Companies that
regularly  do nothing but churn out  'press releases' or articles for
publication and  anyone who gets up their vested interest nose gets a real
shit rundown in the 'press'.

e.g.  Right now it is winter and every winter the drug companies go on a big
push to sell lots a vaccines so there is a PR scare being generated right
now.  "Oh...There is a 'new' flu epidemic coming... coming?  "Yes it is in
New Zealand right now but sure as onions are onions it will be here in
Aussie soon! Everyone in Australia should get vaccinated now!  This gets put
out as news.  Talk about free advertising. People I have observed vaccinated
with the crap get flu immediately.  In June each year the same 'News
Releases'  are churned out.

So if someone somewhere with some influence does not like the fact that
e-gold and Goldmoney are starting to inch into their business with a better
product  you can expect some little articles about e-gold being 'not quite
right'  to come out first. Nothing hard,  just a soft perception change or
seed of doubt thrown down.   Then after a while something a bit stronger.  A
questioning of the ethics of e-gold and its proponents.  This is followed by
questions. Questions, after all are not accusations.  So you can ask all
sorts of nasty questions in all innocence.  "How do we know they are
honest?". "Can we be really sure".  "Is this money laundering?".   Real
positioning stuff.. Then 60 minutes or one of the daily public affairs
programs that gives out  PR releases as news will do a 'sudden 'expose'  and
find and expose some poor bastard who has been allegedly 'done over' by
e-gold or a Market Maker. will consist of emotive statements and a scarcity
of fact.  There will be a call for restrictions  to 'protect the innocent'.
Soon everyone will 'know' that e-gold is a scam and more rights will have
been eroded.

So don't expect accuracy or honesty and don't expect the big boys to come
along and say.  "Hey ya doin' a swell job fellows!", 'cos they won't.



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[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread SnowDog


> http://news.independent.co.uk/digital/update/story.jsp?story=79745  
> 
> "If you don't have any facts, why waste valuable time asking for them?
> Just skim a few articles and then dream up whatever sounds right!" 
> JMR

Incredible! Did they get anything right?

* Gold Currencies are only 6 months old.
* Amazon.com is a big promoter
* GoldMoney is based in the Bahamas
* Exchange fees are a flat $1.00 US


SnowDog



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