[e-gold-list] Re: Reply on Latvia

2001-06-28 Thread Glencannon Group Ltd.

It is amazing to me how such an operation could lose money!  The average
offshore bank charges frankly offensive fees to receive money, to send
money, to issue debit cards, to handle debit card transactions, and to
provide the most rudimentary of services.  They usually give modest interest
rates, and should be able to turn around and make a huge profit on some very
basic investments on the money they hold.  Also, they usually operate from
areas where the cost of hiring competent employees is reasonable, and
other aspects of overhead are extremely manageable.

How could you lose money with a deal like that?

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:58:39 -0600, Destiny Worldwide Net wrote:

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  Subject: Re: Reply to Ian Green about Paritate
  From: Glencannon Group Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:54:53 -0700 (PDT)
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  Indeed everything you say is true.  It really quite odd that the other
banks
  in Latvia allowed this to happen?  Don't they understand that the fall of
  Paritate, in such crude and unsophisticated manner, will only reflect ill
on
  those more functional banks?  I think everyone in that area needs to
learn a
  few things about managing marketing issues and particularly crisis
  situations.
  
  
  I am sure there are some banks who do.  I doubt that Latvia's largest
bank
  cares much, as they have a substantial and growing customer base of their
  own.  Of the other banks, Saules was recently bought out by Rietumu,
meaning
  that those two banks probably could not particiapte in a buy out at this
  time.  But from what I have experienced, Paritate was not run very well. 
we
  tried to open an account there for about 4-5 months a couple of years ago
  and had nothing but problems, lucky for us!  We got nothing but the run
  around and lost a little bit of money.  But at least we didn't loose as
much
  as if we would have had an active account.
  
  There is a bank here in Costa Rica that bills itself as an offshore
expert

  bank, but when you get below the surface, it is a slock operation just
like
  Paritate.  IN fact, I have joked sometimes that this bank in Costa Rica
and
  Paritate must have a management exchange program because they are both
  terrible to deal with.  But this particular bank in Costa Rica also has a
  negative net worth, if what I saw them doing last year is any indication.
I
  already talked about this a year ago, so I will not bore all of you with
the
  details, but they have a rapidly expanding customer base, but WHERE is
the
  money going, because they would on a rotating basis subtract money from
  people's accounts and then put it back in before the statement cutoff and
  there was no indication on the statement to show where thousands of
dollars
  [out of several accounts, mind you] had gone for a couple of weeks.  Yet,
as
  the managers of the fund, we knew that customer complaints about non
working
  debit cards was not an isolated incident, but business as usual for
these
  folks.  Also, when we went to withdrawa the final monies from the fund on
  the way out the door, they stalled on issuing the check for several
hours,
  with the first thing they said being that they could not find the money
in
  the account, and after about an hour and a tirade from me, they all of a
  sudden discovered it, it was all just an oversight, you see
  Bottom line, when someone wanted cold, hard cash from this bank it took
the
  bank a while to find it..
  
  This is fractional reserve banking at its worst!  My suspicion is that
  someone at the top is either massively incompetent beyond belief [more
  likely than in most countries] or a crook or both.  Needless to say, we
are
  very happy to have gotten away from them unscathed last year and to have
  established new relationships with competent banks with good customer
  service.  Bad customer service is a sign of worse trouble than the
customer
  can imagine.  This is also what worries us about egold so much, but that
is
  a topic for another day.
  
  John
  
  http://www.offshorearnings.com
  
  http://destiny-worldwide.net
  
  
  
  
  Thank you all the same for the information.
  
  
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[e-gold-list] Re: Reply on Latvia

2001-06-28 Thread Ken Griffith

By John's standards, Standard Reserve's Instant Anywhere debit card accounts
are reasonably priced, international, and backed by e-gold.


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  It is amazing to me how such an operation could lose money!  The
 average
  offshore bank charges frankly offensive fees to receive money, to send
  money, to issue debit cards, to handle debit card transactions, and to
  provide the most rudimentary of services.  They usually give modest
 interest
  rates, and should be able to turn around and make a huge profit on some
 very
  basic investments on the money they hold.  Also, they usually operate
from
  areas where the cost of hiring competent employees is reasonable, and
  other aspects of overhead are extremely manageable.
 
  How could you lose money with a deal like that?

 that's what I'd like to know, but apparantly Paritate and this other bank
 managed it.  While Paritate has been shut down, this other bank in Costa
 Rica continues on its merry way.  By the way, the name of this bank is
Banco
 Bantec, and whenever I name this, I usually get a tirade from the bank
 protesting that these are total lies because they monitor lists like this.
 Also, in case anyone is interested, another Costa Rican bank that issues
 international debit cards for customers outside the country is Banco Elca.
 I do not know the degree of the problem, or whether they will muddle
 through, but our attorney, who is very well connected, advised us not to
 keep any money there for the time being, which we did not do anyway.  They
 had offered to issue cut rate offshore debit cards for us a year ago, but
we
 declined after our experience with Bantec and another bank here [which was
 also incompetent and in trouble] made us decide to look elsewhere for
debit
 cards.  Since switching to the banks we deal with in Latvia, the fees are
 much higher to get the cards but the banks are reliable [no waiting two
 weeks for wire transfers and other monkey business] and do not make the
 mistakes so common here.  we maintian accounts in Costa Rica, but we only
 deal with good banks and none of them are offering a debit card program.

 So, that is why when people talk about getting low cost debit cards, below
 $200.00 or so, I have to ask what kind of bank is behind it.  Our
experience
 with the cheap banks has been cheap service and shaky banks.

 John

 http://www.offshorearnings.com





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