Re: [E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Nick Griffin]

So no way of backing up the Nand then ..?



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 Original message 
From: David Given 
Date: 07/04/2019 22:22 (GMT+00:00)
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software 
Subject: Re: [E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

readflash won't work. I'm not kidding about it being slow --- it's only a few 
bytes per second. PBL doesn't have a command to read data, so what pblq does is 
to tell it to checksum one byte at a time, and it figures out what the byte is 
from that. It's strictly a hack.



On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 22:44, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
Werid no one ever thought of backing up the firmware before putting new 
firmware on it,what would happen if you didn’t work.

You don’t have anything on the program you made pblq..?

This is the bit I want to get working..

“readflash   
  Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)”

What's the offset and length, I don’t know what that means..?

Spanner..

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎7‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎37
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

I don't think I had anything written down --- this was all years ago, remember. 
I have managed to dig up this old Getting Started page, with instructions on 
reflashing the E3 with Linux: 
https://wiki.earth.li/E3_Getting_Started<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.earth.li%2FE3_Getting_Started=02%7C01%7C%7C7c55375aea6a4a77e90508d6bb9f2cdf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902689655542999=H2PLBCxlm0DisFSVtC2GXqxPWeeLAzOU8bAz1HIRXXY%3D=0>
 Remember that we were all interested in running stock Linux on the machine 
rather than hacking the built-in firmware. Those instructions are all based 
around pbltool, which was the other tool for talking to PBL and which I'd 
completely forgotten about, but should work fine. Bear in mind that this will 
replace the stock firmware.

Regarding forums... I've never met a forum yet which was as easy to use as 
email, let alone coming close to the convenience of getting messages delivered 
directly to my inbox. (If this had been a forum I would never have seen your 
posts!)

Have you seen the mailing list archives at 
https://www.earth.li/pipermail/e3-hacking/<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.earth.li%2Fpipermail%2Fe3-hacking%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C7c55375aea6a4a77e90508d6bb9f2cdf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63690268963004=MBwkP77N8Af1BpvQS%2BXHA50Aebe1omhbjFRwwEjebow%3D=0>?

On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 17:15, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
I need help with PBLQ I don’t understand its commands and options what am I as 
pose to know how to use it, when there are no instructions on how to use it, 
all it has is a read me,please can David Given help me because he made it..?? 
or anyone who has used it…??
Like “ writeflash  ” I don’t understand what is offset and 
length is ,is length the size of the NAND..
I am don’t know about pbl commands..??? Has anyone used this program before,I 
just hope I am not talking to myself or I will go mad…lol

”live@commodoreos<mailto:live@commodoreos> ~
READY.
pblq -h
pblq: Amstrad PBL boot load client v0.3.pre1.
(C) 2005 David Given.
Usage: pblq [] 
Options:
   -h Displays this message
   -v Switch on verbose mode (what that)
   -r Reuse an already existing connection
   -e  Set which emailer model to use (what Mode do not understand)
   -p   Sets the serial port to use
   -s   Sets the slow baud rate
   -f   Sets the fast baud rate
   -m   Sets the maximum packet size (0=ask PBL)
Commands:
   ping   Pings the device, testing communication
   term   Start simple serial terminal (is this like Putty, when I reset 
the email there is no txt just binary.)
   bless 
  Makes a PBL image bootable (does this copy PBL to your PC as a 
bootable image or something)
   execute 
  Executes an on-device program and enters the terminal (not sure 
need more explaining)
   checksum  
  Calculates the checksum of an area of memory ( not sure is the 
binary code,so need the code for the area in the Memory so it can grab it)
   read   
  Reads data from RAM into the specified file ( Reads data from the 
memory and copies into a file,so you can copy it back)
   write  
  Writes data from the specified file into RAM ( same as above but 
the opposite)
   readflash   
  Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)( not sure need 
help with offset and length do not understand)
   writeflash  
  Writes data into the NAND flash ( same as above but the opposite)
Addresses should begin 0x if you want them in hex. ( hex ok  so starts with 0x 
so 0x1234567)
WARNING. Use this program at your own 

Re: [E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[David Given]

readflash won't work. I'm not kidding about it being slow --- it's only a
few bytes per second. PBL doesn't have a command to read data, so what pblq
does is to tell it to checksum one byte at a time, and it figures out what
the byte is from that. It's strictly a hack.



On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 22:44, Nick Griffin  wrote:

> Werid no one ever thought of backing up the firmware before putting new
> firmware on it,what would happen if you didn’t work.
>
> You don’t have anything on the program you made pblq..?
>
> This is the bit I want to get working..
>
> “readflash   
>   Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)”
>
> What's the offset and length, I don’t know what that means..?
>
> Spanner..
>
> *From:* David Given 
> *Sent:* ‎Sunday‎, ‎7‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎37
> *To:* Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software
> 
>
> I don't think I had anything written down --- this was all years ago,
> remember. I have managed to dig up this old Getting Started page, with
> instructions on reflashing the E3 with Linux:
> https://wiki.earth.li/E3_Getting_Started
> 
>  Remember
> that we were all interested in running stock Linux on the machine rather
> than hacking the built-in firmware. Those instructions are all based around
> pbltool, which was the *other* tool for talking to PBL and which I'd
> completely forgotten about, but should work fine. Bear in mind that this
> will replace the stock firmware.
>
> Regarding forums... I've never met a forum yet which was as easy to use as
> email, let alone coming close to the convenience of getting messages
> delivered directly to my inbox. (If this had been a forum I would never
> have seen your posts!)
>
> Have you seen the mailing list archives at
> https://www.earth.li/pipermail/e3-hacking/
> 
> ?
>
> On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 17:15, Nick Griffin  wrote:
>
>> I need help with PBLQ I don’t understand its commands and options what am
>> I as pose to know how to use it, when there are no instructions on how to
>> use it, all it has is a read me,please can David Given help me because he
>> made it..?? or anyone who has used it…??
>> Like “ writeflash  ” I don’t understand what is offset
>> and length is ,is length the size of the NAND..
>> I am don’t know about pbl commands..??? Has anyone used this program
>> before,I just hope I am not talking to myself or I will go mad…lol
>>
>> ”live@commodoreos ~
>> READY.
>> pblq -h
>> pblq: Amstrad PBL boot load client v0.3.pre1.
>> (C) 2005 David Given.
>> Usage: pblq [] 
>> Options:
>>-h Displays this message
>>-v Switch on verbose mode (what that)
>>-r Reuse an already existing connection
>>-e  Set which emailer model to use (what Mode do not understand)
>>-p   Sets the serial port to use
>>-s   Sets the slow baud rate
>>-f   Sets the fast baud rate
>>-m   Sets the maximum packet size (0=ask PBL)
>> Commands:
>>ping   Pings the device, testing communication
>>term   Start simple serial terminal (is this like Putty, when I
>> reset the email there is no txt just binary.)
>>bless 
>>   Makes a PBL image bootable (does this copy PBL to your PC
>> as a bootable image or something)
>>execute 
>>   Executes an on-device program and enters the terminal (not
>> sure need more explaining)
>>checksum  
>>   Calculates the checksum of an area of memory ( not sure is
>> the binary code,so need the code for the area in the Memory so it can grab
>> it)
>>read   
>>   Reads data from RAM into the specified file ( Reads data
>> from the memory and copies into a file,so you can copy it back)
>>write  
>>   Writes data from the specified file into RAM ( same as
>> above but the opposite)
>>readflash   
>>   Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)( not
>> sure need help with offset and length do not understand)
>>writeflash  
>>   Writes data into the NAND flash ( same as above but the
>> opposite)
>> Addresses should begin 0x if you want them in hex. ( hex ok  so starts
>> with 0x so 0x1234567)
>> WARNING. Use this program at your own risk. The author accepts no
>> responsibility
>> for any damage this program may do to your hardware. You have been
>> warned!”
>>
>> This needs a manual on how to use it properly,some I understand not all.
>> I have notice there is not a lot of info on flashing the emailer and its
>> not 

Re: [E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Nick Griffin]

Werid no one ever thought of backing up the firmware before putting new 
firmware on it,what would happen if you didn’t work.

You don’t have anything on the program you made pblq..?

This is the bit I want to get working..

“readflash   
  Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)”

What's the offset and length, I don’t know what that means..?

Spanner..

From: David Given
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎7‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎37
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software

I don't think I had anything written down --- this was all years ago, remember. 
I have managed to dig up this old Getting Started page, with instructions on 
reflashing the E3 with Linux: 
https://wiki.earth.li/E3_Getting_Started
 Remember that we were all interested in running stock Linux on the machine 
rather than hacking the built-in firmware. Those instructions are all based 
around pbltool, which was the other tool for talking to PBL and which I'd 
completely forgotten about, but should work fine. Bear in mind that this will 
replace the stock firmware.

Regarding forums... I've never met a forum yet which was as easy to use as 
email, let alone coming close to the convenience of getting messages delivered 
directly to my inbox. (If this had been a forum I would never have seen your 
posts!)

Have you seen the mailing list archives at 
https://www.earth.li/pipermail/e3-hacking/?

On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 17:15, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
I need help with PBLQ I don’t understand its commands and options what am I as 
pose to know how to use it, when there are no instructions on how to use it, 
all it has is a read me,please can David Given help me because he made it..?? 
or anyone who has used it…??
Like “ writeflash  ” I don’t understand what is offset and 
length is ,is length the size of the NAND..
I am don’t know about pbl commands..??? Has anyone used this program before,I 
just hope I am not talking to myself or I will go mad…lol

”live@commodoreos ~
READY.
pblq -h
pblq: Amstrad PBL boot load client v0.3.pre1.
(C) 2005 David Given.
Usage: pblq [] 
Options:
   -h Displays this message
   -v Switch on verbose mode (what that)
   -r Reuse an already existing connection
   -e  Set which emailer model to use (what Mode do not understand)
   -p   Sets the serial port to use
   -s   Sets the slow baud rate
   -f   Sets the fast baud rate
   -m   Sets the maximum packet size (0=ask PBL)
Commands:
   ping   Pings the device, testing communication
   term   Start simple serial terminal (is this like Putty, when I reset 
the email there is no txt just binary.)
   bless 
  Makes a PBL image bootable (does this copy PBL to your PC as a 
bootable image or something)
   execute 
  Executes an on-device program and enters the terminal (not sure 
need more explaining)
   checksum  
  Calculates the checksum of an area of memory ( not sure is the 
binary code,so need the code for the area in the Memory so it can grab it)
   read   
  Reads data from RAM into the specified file ( Reads data from the 
memory and copies into a file,so you can copy it back)
   write  
  Writes data from the specified file into RAM ( same as above but 
the opposite)
   readflash   
  Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)( not sure need 
help with offset and length do not understand)
   writeflash  
  Writes data into the NAND flash ( same as above but the opposite)
Addresses should begin 0x if you want them in hex. ( hex ok  so starts with 0x 
so 0x1234567)
WARNING. Use this program at your own risk. The author accepts no responsibility
for any damage this program may do to your hardware. You have been warned!”

This needs a manual on how to use it properly,some I understand not all. I have 
notice there is not a lot of info on flashing the emailer and its not explained 
well, its like you put it up to show you have hacked it, but how do you 
expected to do it yourself, I have looked there is nothing on how to read the 
NAND from the E3,please someone make a walkthrough or explain offset and 
length..?

Not beaning funny but posting on here is hard, I have never used  email so 
much,well I don’t use email, I know people on here don’t like Facebook so what 
about a Forum so all info can be in one place not 

Re: [E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Nick Griffin]

I am trying to read the NAND to my PC,but don’t know to to put as the command..?

pblq nand.img
pblq: syntax error: readflash   
readflash   
Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)
pblq nand.img 

Is the start of the nand 0x something, can you help me or is there a website 
that explains this..? I DO NOT KNOW…?? I DO NOT Know about this stuff or about 
PBL.All I want to do is copy the NAND.

Is the stuff in need in the console info like here…??
LDR - 10024800 (flash 00404800)
is LDR the NAND..??

Its says here..
“The second stage loader is stored in a Q;Q; format block in NAND, and is 
called LDR. It's responsible for finding the kernel parameters block and the 
kernel itself, then booting it. The kernel mounts a cramfs filesystem from the 
flash as its root, then pivot_roots so that the root is a ramdisk with a 
symlink farm into the cramfs.”

so does LDR hold the OS, thats where the main software is..?

Spanner..

From: Ralph Corderoy
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎7‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎18‎:‎49
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software

Hi Nick,

>read   
>   Reads data from RAM into the specified file
>readflash   
>   Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)

Is it the distinction between RAM and NAND flash that's confusing you?
Otherwise, they're pretty similar.

> Not beaning funny but posting on here is hard, I have never used email
> so much,well I don’t use email

It's always a good time to learn to use email properly.  It's the core
of many projects' communications.  Lots of data can flow into email,
e.g. RSS feed readers, and cron-job output.  And there are many programs
that can read it, search it, and store it as a text file per email for
access by the normal Unix text processing tools.  Email is king.  :-)

--
Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Ralph Corderoy]

Hi Nick,

>read   
>   Reads data from RAM into the specified file
>readflash   
>   Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)

Is it the distinction between RAM and NAND flash that's confusing you?
Otherwise, they're pretty similar.

> Not beaning funny but posting on here is hard, I have never used email
> so much,well I don’t use email

It's always a good time to learn to use email properly.  It's the core
of many projects' communications.  Lots of data can flow into email,
e.g. RSS feed readers, and cron-job output.  And there are many programs
that can read it, search it, and store it as a text file per email for
access by the normal Unix text processing tools.  Email is king.  :-)

-- 
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Re: [E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[David Given]

I don't think I had anything written down --- this was all years ago,
remember. I have managed to dig up this old Getting Started page, with
instructions on reflashing the E3 with Linux:
https://wiki.earth.li/E3_Getting_Started Remember that we were all
interested in running stock Linux on the machine rather than hacking the
built-in firmware. Those instructions are all based around pbltool, which
was the *other* tool for talking to PBL and which I'd completely forgotten
about, but should work fine. Bear in mind that this will replace the stock
firmware.

Regarding forums... I've never met a forum yet which was as easy to use as
email, let alone coming close to the convenience of getting messages
delivered directly to my inbox. (If this had been a forum I would never
have seen your posts!)

Have you seen the mailing list archives at
https://www.earth.li/pipermail/e3-hacking/?

On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 17:15, Nick Griffin  wrote:

> I need help with PBLQ I don’t understand its commands and options what am
> I as pose to know how to use it, when there are no instructions on how to
> use it, all it has is a read me,please can David Given help me because he
> made it..?? or anyone who has used it…??
> Like “ writeflash  ” I don’t understand what is offset
> and length is ,is length the size of the NAND..
> I am don’t know about pbl commands..??? Has anyone used this program
> before,I just hope I am not talking to myself or I will go mad…lol
>
> ”live@commodoreos ~
> READY.
> pblq -h
> pblq: Amstrad PBL boot load client v0.3.pre1.
> (C) 2005 David Given.
> Usage: pblq [] 
> Options:
>-h Displays this message
>-v Switch on verbose mode (what that)
>-r Reuse an already existing connection
>-e  Set which emailer model to use (what Mode do not understand)
>-p   Sets the serial port to use
>-s   Sets the slow baud rate
>-f   Sets the fast baud rate
>-m   Sets the maximum packet size (0=ask PBL)
> Commands:
>ping   Pings the device, testing communication
>term   Start simple serial terminal (is this like Putty, when I
> reset the email there is no txt just binary.)
>bless 
>   Makes a PBL image bootable (does this copy PBL to your PC as
> a bootable image or something)
>execute 
>   Executes an on-device program and enters the terminal (not
> sure need more explaining)
>checksum  
>   Calculates the checksum of an area of memory ( not sure is
> the binary code,so need the code for the area in the Memory so it can grab
> it)
>read   
>   Reads data from RAM into the specified file ( Reads data
> from the memory and copies into a file,so you can copy it back)
>write  
>   Writes data from the specified file into RAM ( same as above
> but the opposite)
>readflash   
>   Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)( not sure
> need help with offset and length do not understand)
>writeflash  
>   Writes data into the NAND flash ( same as above but the
> opposite)
> Addresses should begin 0x if you want them in hex. ( hex ok  so starts
> with 0x so 0x1234567)
> WARNING. Use this program at your own risk. The author accepts no
> responsibility
> for any damage this program may do to your hardware. You have been
> warned!”
>
> This needs a manual on how to use it properly,some I understand not all. I
> have notice there is not a lot of info on flashing the emailer and its not
> explained well, its like you put it up to show you have hacked it, but how
> do you expected to do it yourself, I have looked there is nothing on how to
> read the NAND from the E3,please someone make a walkthrough or explain
> offset and length..?
>
> Not beaning funny but posting on here is hard, I have never used  email so
> much,well I don’t use email, I know people on here don’t like Facebook so
> what about a Forum so all info can be in one place not scattered over
> different websites, it very hard to look up any thing in the Mailing list
> Archive because it has no search options so you have to press on each
> thread one by one.
>
> Would you be happy If I make a forum for the Emailer, no point me making
> one if no one uses it..?? I am proberly 8 years to late…lol, I am good at
> making them, I make one for TheC64 Mini. http://thec64community.online
>
> I think I know why you made the E3 Hacking Mailing list because you could
> at the time look at it on the Emailer by redirecting the emails to your
> email addy on Amserve.…  would of cost a bomb to look at it at the time
> at 20p a collection. I only connected email once a day when I was using
> it and that was about £6.20 a month so it cost about £75 a year just to
> have it turn on…lol
>
> Thanks..
> Spanner..
>
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[E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Nick Griffin]

I need help with PBLQ I don’t understand its commands and options what am I as 
pose to know how to use it, when there are no instructions on how to use it, 
all it has is a read me,please can David Given help me because he made it..?? 
or anyone who has used it…??
Like “ writeflash  ” I don’t understand what is offset and 
length is ,is length the size of the NAND..
I am don’t know about pbl commands..??? Has anyone used this program before,I 
just hope I am not talking to myself or I will go mad…lol

”live@commodoreos ~
READY.
pblq -h
pblq: Amstrad PBL boot load client v0.3.pre1.
(C) 2005 David Given.
Usage: pblq [] 
Options:
   -h Displays this message
   -v Switch on verbose mode (what that)
   -r Reuse an already existing connection
   -e  Set which emailer model to use (what Mode do not understand)
   -p   Sets the serial port to use
   -s   Sets the slow baud rate
   -f   Sets the fast baud rate
   -m   Sets the maximum packet size (0=ask PBL)
Commands:
   ping   Pings the device, testing communication
   term   Start simple serial terminal (is this like Putty, when I reset 
the email there is no txt just binary.)
   bless 
  Makes a PBL image bootable (does this copy PBL to your PC as a 
bootable image or something)
   execute 
  Executes an on-device program and enters the terminal (not sure 
need more explaining)
   checksum  
  Calculates the checksum of an area of memory ( not sure is the 
binary code,so need the code for the area in the Memory so it can grab it)
   read   
  Reads data from RAM into the specified file ( Reads data from the 
memory and copies into a file,so you can copy it back)
   write  
  Writes data from the specified file into RAM ( same as above but 
the opposite)
   readflash   
  Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)( not sure need 
help with offset and length do not understand)
   writeflash  
  Writes data into the NAND flash ( same as above but the opposite)
Addresses should begin 0x if you want them in hex. ( hex ok  so starts with 0x 
so 0x1234567)
WARNING. Use this program at your own risk. The author accepts no responsibility
for any damage this program may do to your hardware. You have been warned!”

This needs a manual on how to use it properly,some I understand not all. I have 
notice there is not a lot of info on flashing the emailer and its not explained 
well, its like you put it up to show you have hacked it, but how do you 
expected to do it yourself, I have looked there is nothing on how to read the 
NAND from the E3,please someone make a walkthrough or explain offset and 
length..?

Not beaning funny but posting on here is hard, I have never used  email so 
much,well I don’t use email, I know people on here don’t like Facebook so what 
about a Forum so all info can be in one place not scattered over different 
websites, it very hard to look up any thing in the Mailing list Archive because 
it has no search options so you have to press on each thread one by one.

Would you be happy If I make a forum for the Emailer, no point me making one if 
no one uses it..?? I am proberly 8 years to late…lol, I am good at making them, 
I make one for TheC64 Mini. http://thec64community.online

I think I know why you made the E3 Hacking Mailing list because you could at 
the time look at it on the Emailer by redirecting the emails to your email addy 
on Amserve.…  would of cost a bomb to look at it at the time at 20p a 
collection. I only connected email once a day when I was using it and that was 
about £6.20 a month so it cost about £75 a year just to have it turn on…lol

Thanks..
Spanner..

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Re: [E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Ralph Corderoy]

Hi Nick,

> Can someone who knows Cliff contact him to ask how the Amstrad Emailer
> deactivates itself or locks its features please…? I don’t see why you
> wouldn’t tell us now the device is obsolete

I expect he's probably divulged everything he can recall after quite a
few contacts over the years.

> I need to know how it locks and how it does it, if we know then we
> might be able to find a way to activate, unlock them.

Isn't it the lack of being able to `phone home' that causes it to
deactivate after a while?  I seem to recall discussion on this list
about hooking up a modem in place of the phone line to `take' the call.
`AT+VTS' generates a dial tone?  These days, perhaps a
Asterisk/PoTS/VoIP bit of hardware could do similar.

> Has anyone managed to backed up there NAND from the E3,if so did you
> backup it when the Emailer was activated, if yes to both please can
> you shear it

Good idea.

The older firmware, before it got encrypted, could be disassembled and
studied some more, probably easier now than then with tool advancements,
and the phone-call code found so it can be stubbed out and the firmware
re-programmed.

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[E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Nick Griffin]

I Need your help..?
Can someone who knows Cliff contact him to ask how the Amstrad Emailer 
deactivates itself or locks its features please…? I don’t see why you wouldn’t 
tell us now the device is obsolete, I did send a message on Twitter but no 
reply, that’s probably because he don’t know me, I need to know how it locks 
and how it does it, if we know then we might be able to find a way to activate, 
unlock them.

Has anyone managed to backed up there NAND from the E3,if so did you backup it 
when the Emailer was activated, if yes to both please can you shear it, I want 
to test and see if I can writing over my NAND with it, and how did you do it, 
there is no walkthrough on explaining on how to do this with pblq..?

Sky took over Amstrad in 2007 for 125 million, they got full control of it in 
2010, (Sky removed the name Amstrad of they Sky+HD boxes and replaced it with 
the name Sky in 2010)that why they closed the Emailer service in 2011,they 
closed it because the phone numbers were from BT and Sky would have of paid BT 
to keep them(Amstrad did a deal with BT in 2000 with the first E1, its even had 
BT on the device), all they wanted was the satellite box part of Amstrad, 
that's how they made Sky Q (they brought it in-house so they could make them 
themselves) and Now TV, they never existed before and would not exist if they 
didn’t buy Amstrad. I wonder if Cliff works for Sky now or moved on. Amstrad 
exists only in name now, it don’t make or build anything, its the so Sky can 
hold on to what copyright Amstrad has like the copyright to the name and 
likeness of the ZX Spectrum, so when the ZX Spectrum Vega was made Retro 
Computer LTD had to pay Sky for the copyright to use its name and likeness.

”Yes I know a lot about Amstrad and the Emailer,I had to,to add stuff to the 
Amstrad and Emailer Wikipedia pages..  I have all 3 manualsE1,E3,E2(Shame they 
gone now from the Amstrad site, the links are there to the PDFs but they are 
dead because they go to Amstrad’s download site but that's been taken down by 
Sky,well Amserve.co.uk don’t work no more so it only time before Amstrad main 
site disappears) and 3 Emailers one E3 and 2 E2 Pluses.. lol. One of my 
Plus has the Configuration Change on it, I got that last year same as my E3, 
from eBay, they cost me £12 each with P+P,the other don’t work well it does but 
deactivated but keeping it and I got that in 2004, My mum bought for me before 
she died, she died 3 months later in October.”

Have a nice day..

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎6‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎21‎:‎59
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software

Try this… 
https://web.archive.org/web/20070531214536/http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cliff.lawson/index.htm

Spanner..

From: Antony Stone
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎6‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎20‎:‎16
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software

On Saturday 06 April 2019 at 19:55:51, Nick Griffin wrote:

> I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad..  The files work on there
> too, so if you need to download something for you PPC640… 
>
> https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20100111065846%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fweb.ukonline.co.uk%3A80%2Fclidata=02%7C01%7C%7Cbc9b4e19deb44187e20008d6bac46ea3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636901750176337201sdata=GFCxZFCrRLFe7Shitjk2HsN3h76CFjvXyD%2FDcXVpRkM%3Dreserved=0
> ff.lawson/ archive.org/web/20100111065846/http://web.ukonline.co.uk:80/cliff.lawson/
> ata=02%7c01%7c%7cec60a40c8c474674a9e108d6baafc57f%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
> a%7c1%7c0%7c636901661420165108=AYuOwEPXcqIuCLVxgq/VMaeODqQOjH
> tk9ctgHx/uiEY%3D=0>

That link gives me "Hrm.
The Wayback Machine has not archived that URL.
This page is not available on the web
because of server error"


Antony.

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