Thanks, Michael, for the information about NMC. Shades of Leonard Crow Dog, L Peltier, and many others, I'm sure. I was unclear, however, on the purpose of the petition. I know you were forwarding this message from another source, so you may not know the answer to this, but does she _need_ petitions to get a new trial? How many signatures? Sara >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 5 09:21:41 1995 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 23:29:47 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kylie Matthews) Subject: Re: opening doors >I very much agree--I hold doors open out of common courtesy when I am >first to arrive at them, and I hope others will do the same for me, >regardless of gender. However, I have to admit to disliking a certain >kind of gender-specific door-holding: when a man ostentatiously moves >ahead to open a door *for* me, and then proceeds to hold it open in such a >manner as to force me to walk "under the bridge" of his open >arm-and-armpit if I accept his act of "chivalry." I usually do, because >the only alternative generally would seem to be refusal, which could come >across as rudeness on my part. But I much, much prefer that a door simply >be "handed off" to be, because, frankly, I do not like this form of >enforced bodily closeness being imposed on me, and supposedly as a >"courtesy" yet. > >Does anyone else on the list feel as I do about this? Perhaps if men >were aware such a gesture is not always perceived as something positive >by the woman on the receiving end, however well-meaning their intent, they >might re-think their ideas about what is appropriate in regard to doors. > >Ronnie I also hold doors open for those who are behind me. I also walk through doors held open for me by either gender who are in front of me. This is ok. My previous post was misunderstood. What I do not like is what Ronnie has explained beautifully. There is a difference between men who hold a door open out of common courtesy and those who do it in a patriarchial way. I too hate the imposed physical closeness that we must endure in the name of politeness. The book 'the female man' forgotten author, sorry, goes into some of the other things we don't make a fuss about out of politeness like enduring sexual harrassment. Respectfully, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Interesting: Your people glorified organised violence for 40 centuries, but you imprison those who employ it privately." Mr Spock. Star Trek 'Dagger of the Mind'
