Comfort and SUVs
One point which has not come up in the discussion of SUVs and other 4x4s is just the matter of comfort, and perhaps related to this wear and tear on the vehicle. Although I rarely need 4-wheel drive, I find that when I am driving off pavement, especially on uphill grades, there is a lot of jerkiness with two-wheel drive that can be alleviated by using al four wheels (or at least both axles). On any kind of road with rough variable traction I much prefer to switch to 4-wheel drive. Of course comfort does not fit with the concept that ecologists should wear hair shirts. However I don't think that hard shocks do the transmission and suspension much good. Bill Silvert
Re: primate watching
This is an interesting idea, but the analogy to bird-watching is weak. There are only a few primates that are serously endangered, mostly the great apes, and I think that anyone motivated by life lists would simply head for Madagascar and count lemurs. I suspect that getting a lot of spotters into the field would have a negative impact on the species being spotted. It is worth keeping in mind that one of the most successful measures in bird conservation is the habitat preservation by Ducks Unlimited, whose motive is to shoot ducks! Bill Silvert - Original Message - From: WENDEE HOLTCAMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: primate watching I read something recently where someone was pondering whether we could create a system of primate watching, similar to birdwatching, as a way to channel funds into primate conservation. So instead of life lists for birds (or in addition to) they would have life lists for primates. I thought this was really interesting and was just going to try to pitch an article on it, but now I can't seem to find it anywhere - I didn't find it from a google search and I can't remember if I saw this in the news or a scientific journal TOC, or what. I am pretty sure it was a primatologist or biologist/ecologist making the statement. Does this ring any bells for anyone? If so please contact me offlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wendee ~~ Wendee Holtcamp * Freelance Writer * Photographer * Bohemian http://www.wendeeholtcamp.com/ http://www.wendeeholtcamp.com Bohemian Adventures Blog * http://bohemianadventures.blogspot.com/ http://bohemianadventures.blogspot.com The Fish Wars: A Christian Evolutionist http://thefishwars.blogspot.com/ http://thefishwars.blogspot.com ~~ Online Writing Course Starts Sep 15. Sign Up Now!
Postdoctoral position: Molecular Ecology
Molecular Ecology Postdoctoral Research Scholar Department of Entomology University of Kentucky DESCRIPTION An exciting opportunity has arisen within the Department of Entomology at the University of Kentucky to pursue a molecular ecology research project, utilizing diagnostic molecular detection systems to study the dynamics of predator-prey and/or parasitoid-host interactions in terrestrial ecosystems. The start date for this 24-month appointment is flexible, but is available from October 1, 2007. Funding for additional years may be available, subject to satisfactory performance and successful grant applications. QUALIFICATIONS You should hold, or expect to obtain, a Ph.D. in molecular ecology/biology or related field, with relevant experience in isolation, amplification, purification and sequencing of mitochondrial/nuclear DNA, primer design, PCR optimization, etc. You must be highly motivated, with a proven ability in data handling, analysis, and the ability to work both independently and within a multi-disciplinary research team of faculty and graduate students integrating applied entomology, basic ecology and molecular biology. To apply, please send or e-mail a curriculum vitae with list of publications, covering letter explaining your interest in the above position and list of three referees to James Harwood (see below). SALARY AND BENEFITS Salary commensurate with background and experience. Benefits include university holidays, earned annual and sick leave, optional group health, life and supplemental insurances. FOR FURTHER DETAILS, PLEASE CONTACT: Dr. James D. Harwood Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Entomology University of Kentucky S-225 Agricultural Science Center North Lexington, KY 40546-0091 USA James D Harwood Department of Entomology University of Kentucky S225 Agricultural Science Center N Lexington KY 40546-0091 USA Tel. 001 859 257 4264 Fax 001 859 323 1120 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ca.uky.edu/entomology/dept/ipages/jharwood.asphttp://www.uky.edu/~jdharw2/jdh1.htm
Re: Field-Worthy SUV
I respectfully disagree with Eric on most points in his post. In my job we are constrained by time and other budgetary matters not to hire enough porters to carry our stuff into every site in the field, although I have clambered down enough talus slopes with sixty pounds on my back AFTER a twenty mile drive on what BLM calls roads. One of the benefits of 4WD is that it can be easier on road surfaces when you aren't spinning the tires, especially on steep slopes, where a low range can be really helpful. David Baker, Ecologist Central Oregon Interagency Ecology Program Deschutes National Forest 1001 SW Em Kay Dr. Bend, OR 97702 (541) 383-5424
Re: primate watching
While the analogy is weak, the potential is still there. After all, monkey watchers spend hours and hours watching the same monkeys, while bird watchers move from species to species. So, the objective of monkey watching, while in part might be the making of a life list, would probably mostly be to just watch them behave. So, instead of life list of species, it might be a life list of behaviors that they record. Just like who (in birding) has the longest list of species gains status, for monkey watchers perhaps who saw the most unusual behaviors would gain status. So, I think the potential is there, just need a catalyst. Jim On 8/13/07, William Silvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an interesting idea, but the analogy to bird-watching is weak. There are only a few primates that are serously endangered, mostly the great apes, and I think that anyone motivated by life lists would simply head for Madagascar and count lemurs. I suspect that getting a lot of spotters int= o the field would have a negative impact on the species being spotted. It is worth keeping in mind that one of the most successful measures in bird conservation is the habitat preservation by Ducks Unlimited, whose motive is to shoot ducks! Bill Silvert - Original Message - From: WENDEE HOLTCAMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: primate watching I read something recently where someone was pondering whether we could create a system of primate watching, similar to birdwatching, as a way to channel funds into primate conservation. So instead of life lists for birds (or in addition to) they would have life lists for primates. I thought this was really interesting and was just going to try to pitch an article on it, but now I can't seem to find it anywhere - I didn't find it from a google search and I can't remember if I saw this in the news or a scientific journal TOC, or what. I am pretty sure it was a primatologist or biologist/ecologist making the statement. Does this ring any bells for anyone? If so please contact me offlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wendee ~~ Wendee Holtcamp * Freelance Writer * Photographer * Bohemian http://www.wendeeholtcamp.com/ http://www.wendeeholtcamp.com Bohemian Adventures Blog * http://bohemianadventures.blogspot.com/ http://bohemianadventures.blogspot.com The Fish Wars: A Christian Evolutionist http://thefishwars.blogspot.com/ http://thefishwars.blogspot.com ~~ Online Writing Course Starts Sep 15. Sign Up Now! --=20 James J. Roper, Ph.D. Ecologia e Din=E2micas Populacionais de Vertebrados Terrestres -- Caixa Postal 19034 81531-990 Curitiba, Paran=E1, Brasil -- E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefone: 55 41 33857249 Mobile: 55 41 99870543 -- Ecologia e Conserva=E7=E3o na UFPR http://www.bio.ufpr.br/ecologia/ Personal Pages http://jjroper.googlespages.com
Re: primate watching
There are currently estimated to be 625 species and subspecies of primates,= and 26% of those are in immediate danger of extinction (Critically Endange= red or Endangered). That may seem like only a few primates to some people,= but to those of us who work in primate conservation, it is 160 taxa too ma= ny.=0A=0AAsia actually leads the world in endangered primates with 55 taxa = (some down to a handful of individuals), Neotropics with 34, Africa with 33= , and Madagascar with 28. The Primate Specialist Group of the IUCN's Speci= es Survival Commission, Conservation International, and the International P= rimatological Society put out a list of the Top 25 Most Endangered Primates= every 2 years (the list created during the 2006 IPS meetings should be rel= eased soon). As is said every other year when that list is debated, the li= st could easily be 50 or 100 species long. Check out the Red List or the 2= 004 list of the top 25 most endangered primates (http://web.conservation.or= g/xp/news/press_releases/2005/040705.xml). =0A=0AJulie Wieczkowski, admit= tedly someone who studies one of the 43 endangered primates in Africa=0A = =0A- Original Message =0AFrom: William Silvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] =0ATo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Monday, August 13, 2007 6:40:18 A= M=0ASubject: Re: primate watching=0A=0A=0AThis is an interesting idea, but = the analogy to bird-watching is weak. There =0Aare only a few primates that= are serously endangered, mostly the great apes, =0Aand I think that anyone= motivated by life lists would simply head for =0AMadagascar and count lemu= rs. I suspect that getting a lot of spotters into =0Athe field would have a= negative impact on the species being spotted.=0A=0AIt is worth keeping in = mind that one of the most successful measures in bird =0Aconservation is th= e habitat preservation by Ducks Unlimited, whose motive is =0Ato shoot duck= s!=0A=0ABill Silvert=0A=0A=0A- Original Message - =0AFrom: WENDEE = HOLTCAMP [EMAIL PROTECTED]=0ATo: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU=0ASent:= Sunday, August 12, 2007 7:19 PM=0ASubject: primate watching=0A=0A=0AI rea= d something recently where someone was pondering whether we could=0A creat= e a system of primate watching, similar to birdwatching, as a way to=0A ch= annel funds into primate conservation. So instead of life lists for =0A bi= rds=0A (or in addition to) they would have life lists for primates. I thou= ght =0A this=0A was really interesting and was just going to try to pitch= an article on =0A it,=0A but now I can't seem to find it anywhere - I di= dn't find it from a google=0A search and I can't remember if I saw this in= the news or a scientific=0A journal TOC, or what. I am pretty sure it was= a primatologist or=0A biologist/ecologist making the statement.=0A=0A= =0A=0A Does this ring any bells for anyone? If so please contact me offli= st=0A [EMAIL PROTECTED]=0A Wendee=0A=0A ~= ~=0A=0A Wendee Holtcamp * Freelance Writer * = Photographer * Bohemian=0A=0A http://www.wendeeholtcamp.= com/=0A http://www.wendeeholtcamp.com=0A Bohemian Adventures Blog * ht= tp://bohemianadventures.blogspot.com/=0A http://bohemianadventures.blogsp= ot.com=0A=0A The Fish Wars: A Christian Evolutionist =0A http://thefish= wars.blogspot.com/=0A http://thefishwars.blogspot.com=0A ~~~= ~~~=0A Online Writing Course Starts Sep 15. Si= gn Up Now!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AJulie Wieczkowski, Ph.D.=0AAssistant Profes= sor=0ADepartment of Anthropology=0A332 Pafford=0AUniversity of West Georgia= =0ACarrollton, GA 30118=0A678-839-6458 (ph)=0A678-839-6466 (fax)=0Ajuliewhi= [EMAIL PROTECTED]/~jwhiz
Re: primate watching
One would hope that primate watchers (or watchers of anything else) would become a bit more interested in the behaviors, life history etc. of the creatures they watch than many birders who couldn't care less about the biology of the birds they see, but just want to check them off their list. Does anybody know a way to get these people interested in the life history, behavior etc. of the birds and their conservation rather than just adding names to their lists? There are currently estimated to be 625 species and subspecies of primates,= and 26% of those are in immediate danger of extinction (Critically Endange= red or Endangered). That may seem like only a few primates to some people,= but to those of us who work in primate conservation, it is 160 taxa too ma= ny.=0A=0AAsia actually leads the world in endangered primates with 55 taxa = (some down to a handful of individuals), Neotropics with 34, Africa with 33= , and Madagascar with 28. The Primate Specialist Group of the IUCN's Speci= es Survival Commission, Conservation International, and the International P= rimatological Society put out a list of the Top 25 Most Endangered Primates= every 2 years (the list created during the 2006 IPS meetings should be rel= eased soon). As is said every other year when that list is debated, the li= st could easily be 50 or 100 species long. Check out the Red List or the 2= 004 list of the top 25 most endangered primates (http://web.conservation.or= g/xp/news/press_releases/2005/040705.xml). =0A=0AJulie Wieczkowski, admit= tedly someone who studies one of the 43 endangered primates in Africa=0A = =0A- Original Message =0AFrom: William Silvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] =0ATo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Monday, August 13, 2007 6:40:18 A= M=0ASubject: Re: primate watching=0A=0A=0AThis is an interesting idea, but = the analogy to bird-watching is weak. There =0Aare only a few primates that= are serously endangered, mostly the great apes, =0Aand I think that anyone= motivated by life lists would simply head for =0AMadagascar and count lemu= rs. I suspect that getting a lot of spotters into =0Athe field would have a= negative impact on the species being spotted.=0A=0AIt is worth keeping in = mind that one of the most successful measures in bird =0Aconservation is th= e habitat preservation by Ducks Unlimited, whose motive is =0Ato shoot duck= s!=0A=0ABill Silvert=0A=0A=0A- Original Message - =0AFrom: WENDEE = HOLTCAMP [EMAIL PROTECTED]=0ATo: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU=0ASent:= Sunday, August 12, 2007 7:19 PM=0ASubject: primate watching=0A=0A=0AI rea= d something recently where someone was pondering whether we could=0A creat= e a system of primate watching, similar to birdwatching, as a way to=0A ch= annel funds into primate conservation. So instead of life lists for =0A bi= rds=0A (or in addition to) they would have life lists for primates. I thou= ght =0A this=0A was really interesting and was just going to try to pitch= an article on =0A it,=0A but now I can't seem to find it anywhere - I di= dn't find it from a google=0A search and I can't remember if I saw this in= the news or a scientific=0A journal TOC, or what. I am pretty sure it was= a primatologist or=0A biologist/ecologist making the statement.=0A=0A= =0A=0A Does this ring any bells for anyone? If so please contact me offli= st=0A [EMAIL PROTECTED]=0A Wendee=0A=0A ~= ~=0A=0A Wendee Holtcamp * Freelance Writer * = Photographer * Bohemian=0A=0A http://www.wendeeholtcamp.= com/=0A http://www.wendeeholtcamp.com=0A Bohemian Adventures Blog * ht= tp://bohemianadventures.blogspot.com/=0A http://bohemianadventures.blogsp= ot.com=0A=0A The Fish Wars: A Christian Evolutionist =0A http://thefish= wars.blogspot.com/=0A http://thefishwars.blogspot.com=0A ~~~= ~~~=0A Online Writing Course Starts Sep 15. Si= gn Up Now!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AJulie Wieczkowski, Ph.D.=0AAssistant Profes= sor=0ADepartment of Anthropology=0A332 Pafford=0AUniversity of West Georgia= =0ACarrollton, GA 30118=0A678-839-6458 (ph)=0A678-839-6466 (fax)=0Ajuliewhi= [EMAIL PROTECTED]/~jwhiz
looking to find 1km %cover maps of oaks in eastern USA
Everyone, I remember a few years back seeing some 1 km resolution maps of the % cover or standing crop of various eastern USA oak species (individually by species). I think the forest Service produced them. Can anyone provide me a link to downloadable versions of these maps in jpeg or gif format? I have been searching online but cannot find them. Thanks! Jonathan
looking for mangrove ecologists/biologists
Dear all,
many thanks to those of you who replied to my=20
request on mangrove-contacts in West Africa!
Since this quest was successful, I do it once more! :-)
This time I am looking for mangrove-contacts in=20
West India (e.g. Gujarat), or in Pakistan (e.g. Sind).
Any kind of help would be precious.
Best regards,
Gianluca
Gianluca Polgar
Ph.D. candidate
c/o Prof. G. Ardizzone
Dipartimento di Biologia Animale e dell'Uomo,
V.le dell'Universit=E0, 32
University of Rome La Sapienza
00185, Rome (Italy)
tel. 3488851198 / 0637518472
e-mail:
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website: http://www.themudskipper.org
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Chief Conservation Science Officer-job announcement
Apologies for cross-postings. Please forward and share with your colleagues! Chief Conservation Science Officer PRBO Conservation Science (PRBO) seeks a visionary conservation biologist to lead and grow our multi-investigator scientific research programs to address urgent global change issues. The successful candidate will have expertise in staff and program management, conservation science, fundraising, and partnership building. Qualifications: Ph.D. in relevant field and minimum of seven years post-graduate experience with exceptional management, scientific, fundraising and communication skills. Experience with modeling, avian ecology and a range of ecosystems desired. Starting salary: $110,000 - $120,000 annually with competitive benefits. Ongoing review of applications; position opened until filled. E-mail cover letter, CV, and contact information for 4 references (including e-mails and phone numbers) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with CSO Search in the subject line. PRBO is a growing, internationally-recognized non-profit with expertise in avian ecology, population biology, ecosystem science, informatics and conservation applications. Headquartered in the north San Francisco Bay area, PRBO's annual budget is ~$7 million supporting 60 staff biologists and over 100 seasonal biologists. Additional details can be found at www.prbo.org/sciencedirector file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\chowell\Desktop\www.prbo.org\scienced irector . For more information, contact Ellie M. Cohen, President and CEO ([EMAIL PROTECTED], 707-781-2555, ext. 318). PRBO is an Equal Opportunity Employer. August, 2007 Chrissy Howell, PhD Sr. Conservation Scientist PRBO Conservation Science Terrestrial Ecology Division 3820 Cypress Dr., #11 Petaluma, CA 94954 707-781-2555 ext. 315
volunteer postion available Puerto Rico
UNIVERSITY OF PUERTO RICO - RECINTO DE RIO PIEDRAS, INSTITUTE FOR TROPICAL ECOSYSTEM STUDIES TROPICAL FOREST RESEARCH EXPERIENCE FOR COLLEGE GRADUATES. September 10th until ~December 14th 2007. Applications to be submitted by August 19th, 2007 The Institute for Tropical Ecosystem Studies (ITES) of the University of Puerto Rico is carrying out a variety of research projects as part of the Luquillo Long-Term Ecological Research Program. Two volunteers are needed to assist in accomplishing aspects of this research program in the area of hurricane disturbance and forest dynamics. Volunteers will be exposed to tree identification, field protocols, and database management, with most of the work taking place in a hurricane simulation project, the Canopy Trimming Experiment. Volunteers will work Monday through Friday with weekends free. While working in Puerto Rico volunteers will have the opportunity to learn about many aspects of tropical ecology from scientists involved in the Luquillo Long-Term Ecological Research Program. For more information see http://ites.upr.edu/ and http://luq.lternet.edu/ STIPEND: $500 per month to cover food and general living expenses. PERIOD: Approx 12 weeks. September 10th until ~ December 14th 2007. ACCOMODATION: Free accommodation at the El Verde Field Station in Puerto Rico. TRAVEL: Refund of up to $600 towards a round-trip plane ticket from mainland USA, if not already living in Puerto Rico. NOTE: We are unable to provide any medical insurance. REQUIREMENTS: Graduate with an interest in ecology and preferably with some experience of field work and plant identification. Some knowledge of Spanish is useful, but it is not required. USA citizens or permanent USA residents only. APPLICATION PROCEDURE: Please send the following via electronic mail: 1) A letter describing your relevant experience and indicating why you wish to work in tropical forest, and stating that your application is for a volunteer position. 2) Full resume 3) University transcripts (scanned unofficial transcripts will be accepted for the application) 4) Name, title, telephone number, mailing and email addresses, of two references. 5) Applications should be sent by email to arrive by August 19th, 2007. Successful applicants will be invited in late August 2007. Please mail applications to: Dr Jess Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] All attachments must have the name of the applicant as part of the file name.
CSO Seeks Paid Intern to Work on Coastal Resilience
The Coastal States Organization (CSO) is seeking a full-time, one-year, paid intern to assist the states in examining the applications and potential of coastal community resilience. CSO is a small non-profit trade association representing states on coastal and ocean resource management, policy, and legislative issues in Washington D.C. Specifically, the intern will: (1)Enhance the states' understanding of coastal resilience; (2) Explore how coastal resilience can be used as a measure of community health; (3) Increase states' knowledge on the opportunities to incorporate coastal resilience into state and federal legislation; and (4) Serve as a liaison between CSO, the coastal states, and the Coastal Services Center on activities related to coastal resilience. Qualifications: Ability to analyze federal and state coastal policy, meet deadlines, plan meetings, and work well in a small office environment. A Masters Degree in marine/environmental policy or land use/community planning or experience with coastal hazards strongly preferred. Salary: $45,000 plus health care, vacation, and sick leave. To apply, please email a resume and cover letter by August 31, 2007 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No calls please. A full copy of the announcement may be viewed on the homepage of www.coastalstates.org.
ATV damage
I'm looking for articles/research on ATV damage to environments/habitats ..= . please feel free to post to the list or reply directly to me at this emai= l or my work email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! -Liesl _ See what you=92re getting into=85before you go there http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_preview_0507=
Re: primate watching
Hello Judith, As a birder, ecologist, and sometimes conservation educator and environmental advocate I share your frustration with this. First of all I must emphasize that in my experience there are many, many birders who care passionately and effectively about more than their life list with respect to birds. However, after many years of trying to influence adult behavior on this point I've simply decided that the old saw it takes all kinds applies to this as well. I do believe that adult behavior sometimes can be influenced over time so giving up is not an option. But total conversion is not a realistic expectation so should not be a source of frustration. Regards, Daniel L. Tufford, Ph.D. University of South Carolina Department of Biological Sciences 209A Sumwalt(office) 701 Sumter St, Room 401(mail) Columbia, SC 29208 Ph. 803-777-3292, Fx: 803-777-3292 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.biol.sc.edu/~tufford -Original Message- From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judith S. Weis Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 2:23 PM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: primate watching One would hope that primate watchers (or watchers of anything else) would become a bit more interested in the behaviors, life history etc. of the creatures they watch than many birders who couldn't care less about the biology of the birds they see, but just want to check them off their list. Does anybody know a way to get these people interested in the life history, behavior etc. of the birds and their conservation rather than just adding names to their lists? There are currently estimated to be 625 species and subspecies of primates,= and 26% of those are in immediate danger of extinction (Critically Endange= red or Endangered). That may seem like only a few primates to some people,= but to those of us who work in primate conservation, it is 160 taxa too ma= ny.=0A=0AAsia actually leads the world in endangered primates with 55 taxa = (some down to a handful of individuals), Neotropics with 34, Africa with 33= , and Madagascar with 28. The Primate Specialist Group of the IUCN's Speci= es Survival Commission, Conservation International, and the International P= rimatological Society put out a list of the Top 25 Most Endangered Primates= every 2 years (the list created during the 2006 IPS meetings should be rel= eased soon). As is said every other year when that list is debated, the li= st could easily be 50 or 100 species long. Check out the Red List or the 2= 004 list of the top 25 most endangered primates (http://web.conservation.or= g/xp/news/press_releases/2005/040705.xml). =0A=0AJulie Wieczkowski, admit= tedly someone who studies one of the 43 endangered primates in Africa=0A = =0A- Original Message =0AFrom: William Silvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] =0ATo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Monday, August 13, 2007 6:40:18 A= M=0ASubject: Re: primate watching=0A=0A=0AThis is an interesting idea, but = the analogy to bird-watching is weak. There =0Aare only a few primates that= are serously endangered, mostly the great apes, =0Aand I think that anyone= motivated by life lists would simply head for =0AMadagascar and count lemu= rs. I suspect that getting a lot of spotters into =0Athe field would have a= negative impact on the species being spotted.=0A=0AIt is worth keeping in = mind that one of the most successful measures in bird =0Aconservation is th= e habitat preservation by Ducks Unlimited, whose motive is =0Ato shoot duck= s!=0A=0ABill Silvert=0A=0A=0A- Original Message - =0AFrom: WENDEE = HOLTCAMP [EMAIL PROTECTED]=0ATo: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU=0ASent:= Sunday, August 12, 2007 7:19 PM=0ASubject: primate watching=0A=0A=0AI rea= d something recently where someone was pondering whether we could=0A creat= e a system of primate watching, similar to birdwatching, as a way to=0A ch= annel funds into primate conservation. So instead of life lists for =0A bi= rds=0A (or in addition to) they would have life lists for primates. I thou= ght =0A this=0A was really interesting and was just going to try to pitch= an article on =0A it,=0A but now I can't seem to find it anywhere - I di= dn't find it from a google=0A search and I can't remember if I saw this in= the news or a scientific=0A journal TOC, or what. I am pretty sure it was= a primatologist or=0A biologist/ecologist making the statement.=0A=0A= =0A=0A Does this ring any bells for anyone? If so please contact me offli= st=0A [EMAIL PROTECTED]=0A Wendee=0A=0A ~= ~=0A=0A Wendee Holtcamp * Freelance Writer * = Photographer * Bohemian=0A=0A http://www.wendeeholtcamp.= com/=0A http://www.wendeeholtcamp.com=0A Bohemian Adventures Blog * ht= tp://bohemianadventures.blogspot.com/=0A http://bohemianadventures.blogsp= ot.com=0A=0A The Fish Wars: A
Re: primate watching
Judith, I certainly did not mean to suggest that birders are not interested in the objects of their attention, but they do so with a different sense of how to go about it. Just ask a birder for some information about the behavior or biology of birds they have seen, and be prepared to have a beer or two whil= e they tell their stories. I would venture to say that ALL people who are animal watchers (and even plant watchers) are interested in the animals they watch. Birds just have so many options tha they must divide their time among the many species, while primatologists often have fewer species and so devote more time to each. Jim On 8/13/07, Judith S. Weis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One would hope that primate watchers (or watchers of anything else) would become a bit more interested in the behaviors, life history etc. of the creatures they watch than many birders who couldn't care less about the biology of the birds they see, but just want to check them off their list= . Does anybody know a way to get these people interested in the life history, behavior etc. of the birds and their conservation rather than just adding names to their lists? There are currently estimated to be 625 species and subspecies of primates,=3D and 26% of those are in immediate danger of extinction (Critically Endange=3D red or Endangered). That may seem like only a few primates to some people,=3D but to those of us who work in primate conservation, it is 160 taxa to= o ma=3D ny.=3D0A=3D0AAsia actually leads the world in endangered primates with = 55 taxa =3D (some down to a handful of individuals), Neotropics with 34, Africa wit= h 33=3D , and Madagascar with 28. The Primate Specialist Group of the IUCN's Speci=3D es Survival Commission, Conservation International, and the International P=3D rimatological Society put out a list of the Top 25 Most Endangered Primates=3D every 2 years (the list created during the 2006 IPS meetings should be rel=3D eased soon). As is said every other year when that list is debated, th= e li=3D st could easily be 50 or 100 species long. Check out the Red List or the 2=3D 004 list of the top 25 most endangered primates (http://web.conservation.or=3D g/xp/news/press_releases/2005/040705.xml). =3D0A=3D0AJulie Wieczkowsk= i, admit=3D tedly someone who studies one of the 43 endangered primates in Africa= =3D0A =3D =3D0A- Original Message =3D0AFrom: William Silvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] =3D0ATo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Monday, August 13, 2007 6:= 40:18 A=3D M=3D0ASubject: Re: primate watching=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AThis is an interestin= g idea, but =3D the analogy to bird-watching is weak. There =3D0Aare only a few primate= s that=3D are serously endangered, mostly the great apes, =3D0Aand I think that anyone=3D motivated by life lists would simply head for =3D0AMadagascar and coun= t lemu=3D rs. I suspect that getting a lot of spotters into =3D0Athe field would have a=3D negative impact on the species being spotted.=3D0A=3D0AIt is worth kee= ping in =3D mind that one of the most successful measures in bird =3D0Aconservation= is th=3D e habitat preservation by Ducks Unlimited, whose motive is =3D0Ato shoo= t duck=3D s!=3D0A=3D0ABill Silvert=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A- Original Message - =3D= 0AFrom: WENDEE =3D HOLTCAMP [EMAIL PROTECTED]=3D0ATo: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU=3D0ASent:=3D Sunday, August 12, 2007 7:19 PM=3D0ASubject: primate watching=3D0A=3D0= A=3D0AI rea=3D d something recently where someone was pondering whether we could=3D0A creat=3D e a system of primate watching, similar to birdwatching, as a way to=3D= 0A ch=3D annel funds into primate conservation. So instead of life lists for =3D= 0A bi=3D rds=3D0A (or in addition to) they would have life lists for primates. = I thou=3D ght =3D0A this=3D0A was really interesting and was just going to try = to pitch=3D an article on =3D0A it,=3D0A but now I can't seem to find it anywher= e - I di=3D dn't find it from a google=3D0A search and I can't remember if I saw t= his in=3D the news or a scientific=3D0A journal TOC, or what. I am pretty sure = it was=3D a primatologist or=3D0A biologist/ecologist making the statement.=3D0A=3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D0A Does this ring any bells for anyone? If so please contact = me offli=3D st=3D0A [EMAIL PROTECTED]=3D0A Wendee=3D0A=3D0A ~=3D ~=3D0A=3D0A Wendee Holtcamp * Freelance W= riter * =3D Photographer * Bohemian=3D0A=3D0A http://www.wendeeholtcamp.=3D com/=3D0A http://www.wendeeholtcamp.com=3D0A Bohemian Adventures Blo= g * ht=3D tp://bohemianadventures.blogspot.com/=3D0A http://bohemianadventures.blogsp=3D ot.com=3D0A=3D0A The Fish Wars: A Christian Evolutionist =3D0A http://thefish=3D wars.blogspot.com/=3D0A http://thefishwars.blogspot.com=3D0A ~~~=3D
ECOLOGY Conservation Principles and Transformations Re: primate watching
Bill and Forum: Speaking of weak analogies, primate hunting may not be a sufficiently large sport for the duck-hunter analogy to be of much value, but one of the most insightful ecologists I have ever known, Dick Vogl, used to lecture widely on the value of the Ducks Unlimited approach for habitat preservation--an ironic but useful route to success, especially when heavy industries with political clout tend to like filling wetlands for their oil and gas depots, etc. Few took his eco-logic seriously, many rejecting it out-of-hand. Then there's the just-beginning-to-be-explored transformational concept (struggling though it may be). To illustrate, Dayton Hyde once told me that he finally figured out that probably the real reason he took up hunting ducks was to get a closer look at their incredible beauty. He told of the moment this dawned on him. Having picked up the corpse of a duck he had just shot, he was struck by the iridescent colors and beautiful form of the bird, and realized that he had just diminished that beauty (not to mention the structural and real violence used to appreciate it). He realized that the real beauty was in the live duck and its environment--earth, water, and the fire in its heart and mind, once beating and cycling much like his own. He resolved, in that moment, to work in defense of waterfowl, and that decision paid off handsomely for him, internally and financially.* A transformational moment? Hunting: a necessary or useful transition? I could tell you similar tales . . . WT * This, of course, is my version of Hyde's story; it may have suffered in the retelling, for which I apologize in advance. At 03:40 AM 8/13/2007, William Silvert wrote: This is an interesting idea, but the analogy to bird-watching is weak. There are only a few primates that are serously endangered, mostly the great apes, and I think that anyone motivated by life lists would simply head for Madagascar and count lemurs. I suspect that getting a lot of spotters into the field would have a negative impact on the species being spotted. It is worth keeping in mind that one of the most successful measures in bird conservation is the habitat preservation by Ducks Unlimited, whose motive is to shoot ducks! Bill Silvert - Original Message - From: WENDEE HOLTCAMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: primate watching I read something recently where someone was pondering whether we could create a system of primate watching, similar to birdwatching, as a way to channel funds into primate conservation. So instead of life lists for birds (or in addition to) they would have life lists for primates. I thought this was really interesting and was just going to try to pitch an article on it, but now I can't seem to find it anywhere - I didn't find it from a google search and I can't remember if I saw this in the news or a scientific journal TOC, or what. I am pretty sure it was a primatologist or biologist/ecologist making the statement. Does this ring any bells for anyone? If so please contact me offlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wendee ~~ Wendee Holtcamp * Freelance Writer * Photographer * Bohemian http://www.wendeeholtcamp.com/ http://www.wendeeholtcamp.com Bohemian Adventures Blog * http://bohemianadventures.blogspot.com/ http://bohemianadventures.blogspot.com The Fish Wars: A Christian Evolutionist http://thefishwars.blogspot.com/ http://thefishwars.blogspot.com ~~ Online Writing Course Starts Sep 15. Sign Up Now!
Re: looking to find 1km %cover maps of oaks in eastern USA
Everyone, I had a few responses from helpful readers, and this seems the best source so far: http://www.nrs.fs.fed.us/atlas/tree/tree_atlas.html These are not the 1km I was hoping for...but more like 25km. However it is great stuff ..many species and not just oaks here thanks to all who have helped Jonathan Everyone, I remember a few years back seeing some 1 km resolution maps of the % cover or standing crop of various eastern USA oak species (individually by species). I think the forest Service produced them. Can anyone provide me a link to downloadable versions of these maps in jpeg or gif format? I have been searching online but cannot find them. Thanks! Jonathan
Carbon Calculator
Dear Listserv, We have a question: Are there any carbon calculators available for specific consumer items (i.e. cup of coffee, load of laundry, etc.)? All we've been able to find are calculators for driving, home heating, and airtravel. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Sara E. Viernum Clifford J. Webb
Re: primate watching
Hi all-- I'm a primatologist and although I personally have a list, I think the reason it is harder for folks to think in terms of lists on primates is easy: there are no wild primates in the US or Europe where the bulk of the bird twitchers live. It costs money, sometimes lots of it to go see a wild primate. Birds are easy and at our backyard feeders. Laura PS And oh how I wish monkeys came to our feeders instead! :) At 6:36 PM -0300 8/13/07, James J. Roper wrote: Judith, I certainly did not mean to suggest that birders are not interested in the objects of their attention, but they do so with a different sense of how to go about it. Just ask a birder for some information about the behavior or biology of birds they have seen, and be prepared to have a beer or two while they tell their stories. I would venture to say that ALL people who are animal watchers (and even plant watchers) are interested in the animals they watch. Birds just have so many options tha they must divide their time among the many species, while primatologists often have fewer species and so devote more time to each. Jim On 8/13/07, Judith S. Weis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One would hope that primate watchers (or watchers of anything else) would become a bit more interested in the behaviors, life history etc. of the creatures they watch than many birders who couldn't care less about the biology of the birds they see, but just want to check them off their list. Does anybody know a way to get these people interested in the life history, behavior etc. of the birds and their conservation rather than just adding names to their lists? There are currently estimated to be 625 species and subspecies of primates,= and 26% of those are in immediate danger of extinction (Critically Endange= red or Endangered). That may seem like only a few primates to some people,= but to those of us who work in primate conservation, it is 160 taxa too ma= ny.=0A=0AAsia actually leads the world in endangered primates with 55 taxa = (some down to a handful of individuals), Neotropics with 34, Africa with 33= , and Madagascar with 28. The Primate Specialist Group of the IUCN's Speci= es Survival Commission, Conservation International, and the International P= rimatological Society put out a list of the Top 25 Most Endangered Primates= every 2 years (the list created during the 2006 IPS meetings should be rel= eased soon). As is said every other year when that list is debated, the li= st could easily be 50 or 100 species long. Check out the Red List or the 2= 004 list of the top 25 most endangered primates (http://web.conservation.or= g/xp/news/press_releases/2005/040705.xml). =0A=0AJulie Wieczkowski, admit= tedly someone who studies one of the 43 endangered primates in Africa=0A = =0A- Original Message =0AFrom: William Silvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] =0ATo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Monday, August 13, 2007 6:40:18 A= M=0ASubject: Re: primate watching=0A=0A=0AThis is an interesting idea, but = the analogy to bird-watching is weak. There =0Aare only a few primates that= are serously endangered, mostly the great apes, =0Aand I think that anyone= motivated by life lists would simply head for =0AMadagascar and count lemu= rs. I suspect that getting a lot of spotters into =0Athe field would have a= negative impact on the species being spotted.=0A=0AIt is worth keeping in = mind that one of the most successful measures in bird =0Aconservation is th= e habitat preservation by Ducks Unlimited, whose motive is =0Ato shoot duck= s!=0A=0ABill Silvert=0A=0A=0A- Original Message - =0AFrom: WENDEE = HOLTCAMP [EMAIL PROTECTED]=0ATo: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU=0ASent:= Sunday, August 12, 2007 7:19 PM=0ASubject: primate watching=0A=0A=0AI rea= d something recently where someone was pondering whether we could=0A creat= e a system of primate watching, similar to birdwatching, as a way to=0A ch= annel funds into primate conservation. So instead of life lists for =0A bi= rds=0A (or in addition to) they would have life lists for primates. I thou= ght =0A this=0A was really interesting and was just going to try to pitch= an article on =0A it,=0A but now I can't seem to find it anywhere - I di= dn't find it from a google=0A search and I can't remember if I saw this in= the news or a scientific=0A journal TOC, or what. I am pretty sure it was= a primatologist or=0A biologist/ecologist making the statement.=0A=0A= =0A=0A Does this ring any bells for anyone? If so please contact me offli= st=0A [EMAIL PROTECTED]=0A Wendee=0A=0A ~= ~=0A=0A Wendee Holtcamp * Freelance Writer * = Photographer * Bohemian=0A=0A http://www.wendeeholtcamp.= com/=0A
hunting conservation/was ECOLOGY Conservation Principles and Transformations Re: primate watching
This is a really interesting point. I wrote an article about Louisiana black bears about a year ago, a threatened subspecies of American black bear. I spent a week in the field while biologists relocated bear mommas and cubs to a different habitat in efforts to expand their range. One comment by one of the people there that week was that the best thing that could happen to the LA black bear is to make it a game species. Hunters channel a lot of funds that ultimately (usually) go into conservation. I'd be curious to know how MUCH money exactly has been channeled into conservation through hunting of various species - particularly somewhat rare species hunted in a limited manner? And in what types of scenarios does funding generated from hunting/fishing of rare species outweigh the conservation efforts obtained by listing the species as threatened or endangered? I know, for example, in Texas they give out a very small number of very high-priced permits to hunt bighorn sheep - and as I understand it, a lot of this money goes to conservation/management. I've been told the species is rare enough to be listed as threatened, but as far as I know no stink has been raised about the issue by any group. I would think that the money from hunting a few benefits the overall conservation more than putting it on the ESA. Likewise, Guadalupe Bass, Texas' state fish is nearly extinct IF You consider hybrids not really Guads. Pretty much all Guadalupe bass have hybridized with their introduced cousins - smallmouth and largemouths. (There is one pure population which, ironically, was introduced outside of its range). But listing this species on the ESA would not only be an utterly logistical nightmare (distinguishing them from stocked fish? Nearly impossible if you're talking about genetics and not morphology) it would probably NOT be the most beneficial thing for the species. Any thoughts? Any other similar cases? This has the makings of a great article :) Wendee ~~ Wendee Holtcamp * Freelance Writer * Photographer * Bohemian http://www.wendeeholtcamp.com Bohemian Adventures Blog * http://bohemianadventures.blogspot.com The Fish Wars: A Christian Evolutionist http://thefishwars.blogspot.com ~~ Online Writing Course Starts Sep 15. Sign Up Now! -Original Message- From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Tyson Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 2:43 PM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: ECOLOGY Conservation Principles and Transformations Re: primate watching Bill and Forum: Speaking of weak analogies, primate hunting may not be a sufficiently large sport for the duck-hunter analogy to be of much value, but one of the most insightful ecologists I have ever known, Dick Vogl, used to lecture widely on the value of the Ducks Unlimited approach for habitat preservation--an ironic but useful route to success, especially when heavy industries with political clout tend to like filling wetlands for their oil and gas depots, etc. Few took his eco-logic seriously, many rejecting it out-of-hand. Then there's the just-beginning-to-be-explored transformational concept (struggling though it may be). To illustrate, Dayton Hyde once told me that he finally figured out that probably the real reason he took up hunting ducks was to get a closer look at their incredible beauty. He told of the moment this dawned on him. Having picked up the corpse of a duck he had just shot, he was struck by the iridescent colors and beautiful form of the bird, and realized that he had just diminished that beauty (not to mention the structural and real violence used to appreciate it). He realized that the real beauty was in the live duck and its environment--earth, water, and the fire in its heart and mind, once beating and cycling much like his own. He resolved, in that moment, to work in defense of waterfowl, and that decision paid off handsomely for him, internally and financially.* A transformational moment? Hunting: a necessary or useful transition? I could tell you similar tales . . . WT * This, of course, is my version of Hyde's story; it may have suffered in the retelling, for which I apologize in advance. At 03:40 AM 8/13/2007, William Silvert wrote: This is an interesting idea, but the analogy to bird-watching is weak. There are only a few primates that are serously endangered, mostly the great apes, and I think that anyone motivated by life lists would simply head for Madagascar and count lemurs. I suspect that getting a lot of spotters into the field would have a negative impact on the species being spotted. It is worth keeping in mind that one of the most successful measures in bird conservation is the habitat preservation by Ducks Unlimited, whose motive is to shoot ducks! Bill Silvert - Original Message - From: WENDEE HOLTCAMP
Position Available: Community Ecologist and Curator of Native Habitats at the Chicago Botanic Garden
Position Available Community Ecologist and Curator of Native Habitats at the Chicago Botanic Garden The Chicago Botanic Garden seeks a Community Ecologist with research strengths in invasion biology, restoration ecology, and/or spatial ecology for its Plant Science and Conservation Division. Duties include conducting an active conservation-oriented research program with external funding focusing on plant communities, collaborating with a wide range of academic and stewardship organizations, and serving as the curator of the Gardens Native Habitat areas (approximately 150 acres comprised of a natural oak woodland, a river corridor and a re-created prairie). The successful candidate will also teach community ecology at Northwestern University in support of the joint Chicago Botanic Garden/Northwestern University MS program in Plant Biology and Conservation and will have the opportunity to work with graduate students from that program and other Chicago region universities. Requirements include a Ph.D. in ecology, botany, biology or a related field, expertise in community ecology, strong quantitative skills, and a desire to work in a non-profit environment. Expertise in restoration ecology, invasion biology, spatial ecology, and/or land management techniques is strongly desired, along with considerable knowledge of, and practical experience with, native community restoration in the upper Midwest. For further information about the position, contact Kayri Havens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] To apply, send cover letter with statement of research and teaching interests, curriculum vitae, and contact information for three references to: Human Resources Department, Chicago Botanic Garden, 1000 Lake Cook Road, Glencoe, IL 60022. Review of applications will begin October 1, 2007 and continue until a suitable candidate is found.
Re: Carbon Calculator
Sorry I can't help you out with your specific question, but I can't = resist sharing a link with you to a video from some British youths that = takes a very novel approach to explaining carbon credits or offsets:=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Df3_CYdYDDpk I am reply to the list just in case there are a few scientists out there = who have not come across it. It appears the BBC covered this, but I = don't have TV, so the whole western world might know... apologies if = that is the case. =20 Enjoy, David -Original Message- From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news on behalf of = Sara Viernum Sent: Mon 8/13/2007 6:31 PM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Carbon Calculator =20 Dear Listserv, We have a question: Are there any carbon calculators available for=20 specific consumer items (i.e. cup of coffee, load of laundry, etc.)? All we've been able to find are calculators for driving, home heating, = and=20 airtravel. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Sara E. Viernum Clifford J. Webb
Postdoc available: comparative ecophysiology of Hawaiian lobeliads
Comparative plant ecophysiology Support from the National Science Foundation is available for postdoctoral research in the area of physiological ecology of the Hawaiian lobeliads (Campanulaceae). Candidates are expected to provide leadership in an existing common garden project on physiological responses to drought across gradients of light and to develop a line of independent research. Past experience with plant hydraulics and water relations preferred. The position will be based on the Big Island, Hawaii, USA. A starting date in Winter/Spring 2008 is preferred but negotiable. Please send a cover letter, vitae, names addresses of three references, and examples of recent publications. Applications are accepted until the position is filled. Electronic submission is preferred. Dr. Rebecca Montgomery Department of Forest Resources University of Minnesota 115 Green Hall 1530 Cleveland Ave N. Saint Paul, MN 55108 USA Tel: 612-624-7249 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:http://fr.cfans.umn.edu/people/facstaff/montgomery/index.html
