Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?

2011-02-13 Thread Josh Brinks
I dealt with the same issue for 3 years in-between undergrad and grad
school. I spent two Michigan winters mowing down invasives for the Nature
Conservancy in areas not as accessible during the summer, but it was
miserable work most of the time.  If I was lucky they would save 4-6 weeks
worth of funding from my summer job at MNFI for me to count tree rings and
process samples we collected during the summer. The other times were spent
waiting tables and working my high school job at a record shop.

Those times were nerve wrecking as funding was only guaranteed for a few
months at a time if I was lucky. In my experience, exhibiting a good skill
set (field botany, sampling procedure) and an eagerness to work long days in
terrible weather seemed to result in off season funding and having your name
passed on to other agencies.

Josh Brinks (SERC)


On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Ruchira Datta  wrote:

> I just wanted to say how much I admire the dedication of you and the other
> seasonal technicians who've responded to wildlife / conservation biology.
>  Thank you for keeping up the good work!
>
> --Ruchira
>
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Merran  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > It's so nice to hear from other seasonal technicians!  I work as a plant
> > technician and as much as I love winter, it can be a problem.  After
> > college, I was able to find an awesome job working year-round in Western
> > Washington -- it was a revegetation job and we spent our winters
> > planting.  Another good place to look for a year-round job is in the
> > desert.  I spent some time volunteering in Joshua Tree earlier this
> winter
> > and loved it, and I think they spend their February's pulling Sahara
> > Mustard
> > (a horrible weed).  I've also seen that some National Parks will give you
> > free board in exchange for volunteering.
> >
> > I began working seasonally last summer because I wanted to travel and
> work
> > in new plant communities (incidentally, I worked in Utah and a common
> > offseason job there was ski instructing).  Being unemployed can really
> get
> > you down, so I would recommend volunteering whenever you have a break --
> > although the temping idea is a pretty good one.  Thanks Zuri!  This
> winter
> > I've been collecting unemployment and volunteering, and it's so much
> > fun.  I'm currently helping out at a nonprofit that does environmental
> > education -- another type of year-round work.
> >
> > Merran Owen
> >
>


Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?

2011-02-13 Thread Aaron T. Dossey
I wouldn't recommend a Ph.D.  The market is flooded with us to the 
effect of our 10+ years in school not paying any dividends for that 
investment - see studies such as a recent one on Florida associates 
degree holders making more on average than those with Bachelor's degrees 
- a Ph.D. is an even more exaggerated example of that.  The years you'll 
invest in that (graduate tech position) and, subsequently, in postdoc 
after postdoc tech position are better spent gaining real world 
experience and seniority in your field.  In doing so, you become more 
valuable and irreplaceable at wherever you work.


And hey, in the mean time, you're working on your own career, not 
someone else's.


Aaron T. Dossey, Ph.D.
Biochemistry and Molecular Biology




On 2/13/2011 6:32 PM, malcolm McCallum wrote:

There are only two ways to get ahead, but neither gives instant
gratification...

1) keep getting more education whether it means adding courses,
degrees (in same and other disciplines) or what.
I have a phd and just finished a course on using the program R.  There
is always more to learn.  This does not guarantee you will succeed,
but at least you are doing something.  Sitting waiting for your next
gig just keeps you falling behind in both skills and knowledge.

2) publication.  If you can figure out a way to get peer reviewed
pubications out of your work, it will generally lead to permanent
jobs, even if those are not research posts.

Malcolm

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Wayne Tyson  wrote:

Jason, David, and John (and Ecolog):

I forgot that when I decided to give up my cushy high-paid job, I
individually typed, on an old Underwood typewriter, forty applications to
forty National Forest offices. I got one response, but all I needed was one
job. I'm sure glad I didn't stop at 39.

WT

PS: "Tis friction's brisk, rough rub, that provides the vital spark!" --A.
R. Martin


- Original Message - From: "John Winkowski"

To:
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?



I graduated in 2007 from St Lawrence University with my B.S. (double major
in Biology and Environmental Studies) and was in the same boat.
Essentially,
as soon as you are hired and begin one seasonal job, the best thing to do
is
start applying, or at least looking, for the next. You are competing with
1,000s of people that are struggling to have continuity in employment as
entry level biologists. You need to apply to many positions to keep your
options open and hopefully have some options to work with. If you end up
getting hired onto a project (and you hopefully like that project) keep
contact with your boss upon completion of a season because this could be a
great option for next year. Generally, supervisors like to hire employees
back due to the fact that you are already trained with their protocol, you
know the backcountry where field sites are, they know you've managed to
complete a season before, and you can help train new employees. I managed
to
sort of cycle between 3-4 jobs throughout a 3 year period and it worked
out
really well.

It is quite the struggle and I suggest meeting a lot of friends along the
way to be prepared to couch surf. It's a period of time that you always
have
to be on your toes and most likely live out of your car. Between short
seasons, layoffs, etc you need to keep your options open and always be on
the hunt for new positions if you really want to have work throughout the
year (it is possible!).

Although frustrating and challenging at times, the process is necessary
and
I thought very enjoyable. Once you begin to build on your post-graduation
experience you will notice interviews will become more common and job
offerings as well. I found that my experiences took me to places I never
would have gone before and I was able to see the most beautiful parts of
this country while being paid. I saw the time I spent working seasonally
more as an incredible experience than anything. I wouldn't trade those
times
for anything. In fact, I kind of wish I was applying for jobs and thinking
about where I would be this summer instead of sitting at my desk analyzing
data now! Trade-offs!

Hope this helped a bit,

John Winkowski
MSc Candidate
Memorial University of Newfoundland


On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:36 AM, David Moldoff  wrote:


Let me start off by saying that I am in the same boat and hope we both
get
some worthwhile answers here. I recently graduated and have an internship
from April till July but after that I'm completely lost as to what would
help my employment chances. I have a few friends with wildlife degrees
and
the way they have been handling "off season" is by finding a job that
pays
the bills and then volunteering for wildlife organizations. I know this
isn't a great alternative but hopefully other people post some better
ideas.

David Moldoff

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Jason Hernandez<
jason.hernande...@yahoo.com>  wrote:


I see that the 

Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?

2011-02-13 Thread malcolm McCallum
There are only two ways to get ahead, but neither gives instant
gratification...

1) keep getting more education whether it means adding courses,
degrees (in same and other disciplines) or what.
I have a phd and just finished a course on using the program R.  There
is always more to learn.  This does not guarantee you will succeed,
but at least you are doing something.  Sitting waiting for your next
gig just keeps you falling behind in both skills and knowledge.

2) publication.  If you can figure out a way to get peer reviewed
pubications out of your work, it will generally lead to permanent
jobs, even if those are not research posts.

Malcolm

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Wayne Tyson  wrote:
> Jason, David, and John (and Ecolog):
>
> I forgot that when I decided to give up my cushy high-paid job, I
> individually typed, on an old Underwood typewriter, forty applications to
> forty National Forest offices. I got one response, but all I needed was one
> job. I'm sure glad I didn't stop at 39.
>
> WT
>
> PS: "Tis friction's brisk, rough rub, that provides the vital spark!" --A.
> R. Martin
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "John Winkowski"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 7:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?
>
>
>> I graduated in 2007 from St Lawrence University with my B.S. (double major
>> in Biology and Environmental Studies) and was in the same boat.
>> Essentially,
>> as soon as you are hired and begin one seasonal job, the best thing to do
>> is
>> start applying, or at least looking, for the next. You are competing with
>> 1,000s of people that are struggling to have continuity in employment as
>> entry level biologists. You need to apply to many positions to keep your
>> options open and hopefully have some options to work with. If you end up
>> getting hired onto a project (and you hopefully like that project) keep
>> contact with your boss upon completion of a season because this could be a
>> great option for next year. Generally, supervisors like to hire employees
>> back due to the fact that you are already trained with their protocol, you
>> know the backcountry where field sites are, they know you've managed to
>> complete a season before, and you can help train new employees. I managed
>> to
>> sort of cycle between 3-4 jobs throughout a 3 year period and it worked
>> out
>> really well.
>>
>> It is quite the struggle and I suggest meeting a lot of friends along the
>> way to be prepared to couch surf. It's a period of time that you always
>> have
>> to be on your toes and most likely live out of your car. Between short
>> seasons, layoffs, etc you need to keep your options open and always be on
>> the hunt for new positions if you really want to have work throughout the
>> year (it is possible!).
>>
>> Although frustrating and challenging at times, the process is necessary
>> and
>> I thought very enjoyable. Once you begin to build on your post-graduation
>> experience you will notice interviews will become more common and job
>> offerings as well. I found that my experiences took me to places I never
>> would have gone before and I was able to see the most beautiful parts of
>> this country while being paid. I saw the time I spent working seasonally
>> more as an incredible experience than anything. I wouldn't trade those
>> times
>> for anything. In fact, I kind of wish I was applying for jobs and thinking
>> about where I would be this summer instead of sitting at my desk analyzing
>> data now! Trade-offs!
>>
>> Hope this helped a bit,
>>
>> John Winkowski
>> MSc Candidate
>> Memorial University of Newfoundland
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:36 AM, David Moldoff  wrote:
>>
>>> Let me start off by saying that I am in the same boat and hope we both
>>> get
>>> some worthwhile answers here. I recently graduated and have an internship
>>> from April till July but after that I'm completely lost as to what would
>>> help my employment chances. I have a few friends with wildlife degrees
>>> and
>>> the way they have been handling "off season" is by finding a job that
>>> pays
>>> the bills and then volunteering for wildlife organizations. I know this
>>> isn't a great alternative but hopefully other people post some better
>>> ideas.
>>>
>>> David Moldoff
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Jason Hernandez <
>>> jason.hernande...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I see that the surge of recruiting announcements for the seasonal
>>> > technician jobs is underway.  It looks like a lot of important and
>>> exciting
>>> > projects, as I would expect.  But it is impossible not to notice the >
>>> > time
>>> > frame: usually just spring and summer, some only spring or summer.
>>> >
>>> > I cannot really complain; I am fortunate in that my current job began >
>>> > in
>>> > January, instead of having to wait for April or May.  Still, it does >
>>> > end
>>> in
>>> > July, about the time so many other jobs are also ending.  This means I

Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?

2011-02-13 Thread Ruchira Datta
I just wanted to say how much I admire the dedication of you and the other
seasonal technicians who've responded to wildlife / conservation biology.
 Thank you for keeping up the good work!

--Ruchira

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Merran  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> It's so nice to hear from other seasonal technicians!  I work as a plant
> technician and as much as I love winter, it can be a problem.  After
> college, I was able to find an awesome job working year-round in Western
> Washington -- it was a revegetation job and we spent our winters
> planting.  Another good place to look for a year-round job is in the
> desert.  I spent some time volunteering in Joshua Tree earlier this winter
> and loved it, and I think they spend their February's pulling Sahara
> Mustard
> (a horrible weed).  I've also seen that some National Parks will give you
> free board in exchange for volunteering.
>
> I began working seasonally last summer because I wanted to travel and work
> in new plant communities (incidentally, I worked in Utah and a common
> offseason job there was ski instructing).  Being unemployed can really get
> you down, so I would recommend volunteering whenever you have a break --
> although the temping idea is a pretty good one.  Thanks Zuri!  This winter
> I've been collecting unemployment and volunteering, and it's so much
> fun.  I'm currently helping out at a nonprofit that does environmental
> education -- another type of year-round work.
>
> Merran Owen
>


Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?

2011-02-13 Thread Shermin ds
Hi Jason,

Aren't you the one who asked the Conservation vs. Gardening question?
 You've got a knack for asking good questions.  I've been wondering exactly
the same thing, given the difficulty of getting any sort of job academic or
otherwise post-phD, (Google the number of articles that have come out
recently discussing grim prospects).  We seem to need a small army of highly
skilled nomadic labor on a temporary basis but what, exactly, is everyone
supposed to do the rest of the time?  Not exactly sustainable.

-Shermin

--
Shermin de Silva, Ph.D
Director
Uda Walawe Elephant Research Project
email: sher...@elephantresearch.net
http://elephantresearch.net/fieldnotes
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~sdesilva



On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Jason Hernandez <
jason.hernande...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I see that the surge of recruiting announcements for the seasonal
> technician jobs is underway.  It looks like a lot of important and exciting
> projects, as I would expect.  But it is impossible not to notice the time
> frame: usually just spring and summer, some only spring or summer.
>
> I cannot really complain; I am fortunate in that my current job began in
> January, instead of having to wait for April or May.  Still, it does end in
> July, about the time so many other jobs are also ending.  This means I will
> have to compete with all those other temporary and seasonal technicians for
> my next job.
>
> Which brings me to my question: what does someone like me do in fall and
> winter?  Granted, based on my current qualifications, someone I work with
> predicts I could have a permanent position "within two years."  But I must
> still make a living DURING those two years.  What should I be looking at now
> to maximize my chance of being employed come this fall and next winter?
>
> Jason Hernandez
> Biological Science Technician, USDA Forest Service
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?

2011-02-13 Thread Wayne Tyson

Jason, David, and John (and Ecolog):

I forgot that when I decided to give up my cushy high-paid job, I 
individually typed, on an old Underwood typewriter, forty applications to 
forty National Forest offices. I got one response, but all I needed was one 
job. I'm sure glad I didn't stop at 39.


WT

PS: "Tis friction's brisk, rough rub, that provides the vital spark!" --A. 
R. Martin



- Original Message - 
From: "John Winkowski" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?



I graduated in 2007 from St Lawrence University with my B.S. (double major
in Biology and Environmental Studies) and was in the same boat. 
Essentially,
as soon as you are hired and begin one seasonal job, the best thing to do 
is

start applying, or at least looking, for the next. You are competing with
1,000s of people that are struggling to have continuity in employment as
entry level biologists. You need to apply to many positions to keep your
options open and hopefully have some options to work with. If you end up
getting hired onto a project (and you hopefully like that project) keep
contact with your boss upon completion of a season because this could be a
great option for next year. Generally, supervisors like to hire employees
back due to the fact that you are already trained with their protocol, you
know the backcountry where field sites are, they know you've managed to
complete a season before, and you can help train new employees. I managed 
to
sort of cycle between 3-4 jobs throughout a 3 year period and it worked 
out

really well.

It is quite the struggle and I suggest meeting a lot of friends along the
way to be prepared to couch surf. It's a period of time that you always 
have

to be on your toes and most likely live out of your car. Between short
seasons, layoffs, etc you need to keep your options open and always be on
the hunt for new positions if you really want to have work throughout the
year (it is possible!).

Although frustrating and challenging at times, the process is necessary 
and

I thought very enjoyable. Once you begin to build on your post-graduation
experience you will notice interviews will become more common and job
offerings as well. I found that my experiences took me to places I never
would have gone before and I was able to see the most beautiful parts of
this country while being paid. I saw the time I spent working seasonally
more as an incredible experience than anything. I wouldn't trade those 
times

for anything. In fact, I kind of wish I was applying for jobs and thinking
about where I would be this summer instead of sitting at my desk analyzing
data now! Trade-offs!

Hope this helped a bit,

John Winkowski
MSc Candidate
Memorial University of Newfoundland


On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:36 AM, David Moldoff  wrote:

Let me start off by saying that I am in the same boat and hope we both 
get

some worthwhile answers here. I recently graduated and have an internship
from April till July but after that I'm completely lost as to what would
help my employment chances. I have a few friends with wildlife degrees 
and
the way they have been handling "off season" is by finding a job that 
pays

the bills and then volunteering for wildlife organizations. I know this
isn't a great alternative but hopefully other people post some better
ideas.

David Moldoff

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Jason Hernandez <
jason.hernande...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I see that the surge of recruiting announcements for the seasonal
> technician jobs is underway.  It looks like a lot of important and
exciting
> projects, as I would expect.  But it is impossible not to notice the 
> time

> frame: usually just spring and summer, some only spring or summer.
>
> I cannot really complain; I am fortunate in that my current job began 
> in
> January, instead of having to wait for April or May.  Still, it does 
> end

in
> July, about the time so many other jobs are also ending.  This means I
will
> have to compete with all those other temporary and seasonal technicians
for
> my next job.
>
> Which brings me to my question: what does someone like me do in fall 
> and
> winter?  Granted, based on my current qualifications, someone I work 
> with

> predicts I could have a permanent position "within two years."  But I
must
> still make a living DURING those two years.  What should I be looking 
> at

now
> to maximize my chance of being employed come this fall and next winter?
>
> Jason Hernandez
> Biological Science Technician, USDA Forest Service
>
>





--
"When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to
everything in the universe."


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Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?

2011-02-13 Thread Merran
Hi all,

It's so nice to hear from other seasonal technicians!  I work as a plant
technician and as much as I love winter, it can be a problem.  After
college, I was able to find an awesome job working year-round in Western
Washington -- it was a revegetation job and we spent our winters
planting.  Another good place to look for a year-round job is in the
desert.  I spent some time volunteering in Joshua Tree earlier this winter
and loved it, and I think they spend their February's pulling Sahara Mustard
(a horrible weed).  I've also seen that some National Parks will give you
free board in exchange for volunteering.

I began working seasonally last summer because I wanted to travel and work
in new plant communities (incidentally, I worked in Utah and a common
offseason job there was ski instructing).  Being unemployed can really get
you down, so I would recommend volunteering whenever you have a break --
although the temping idea is a pretty good one.  Thanks Zuri!  This winter
I've been collecting unemployment and volunteering, and it's so much
fun.  I'm currently helping out at a nonprofit that does environmental
education -- another type of year-round work.

Merran Owen


[ECOLOG-L] MS opportunity: Biogeochemistry University of Alabama

2011-02-13 Thread Behzad Mortazavi
University of Alabama: M.S. opportunity in benthic nitrogen cycling for Summer 
2011. We have a 
position available in the Biogeochemistry Lab
(http://bama.ua.edu/~bmortazavi) that currently has active projects in 
nearshore coastal waters. The 
work is focused on effects eutrophication and oil spill on biogeochemical 
processes. The successful 
applicant will work on elucidating spatial and temporal patterns in nitrogen 
cycling in coastal waters 
located within the vicinity of Dauphin Island, a barrier island in the Northern 
Gulf of Mexico. The 
initial work will focus on using membrane inlet mass spectrometry to detect 
rates of denitrification. 
Future work may involve tracing sources and utilization of nitrogen in coastal 
waters. The 
assistantship will include (1) a tuition waiver, (2) an annual stipend and (3) 
health insurance. For 
additional information, contact Dr. Behzad Mortazavi, Department of Biological 
Sciences, University of 
Alabama, Tuscaloosa AL 35487, email: bmortaz...@ua.edu, ph: 251-861-2141 Ext 
2189. 
Application information and forms are available at 
http://bsc.ua.edu/site/gradapply.htm. Funding is 
primarily in the form of research assistantships.


[ECOLOG-L] Japanese translation of 'Beginner's guide to R'

2011-02-13 Thread Highland Statistics

Apologies for cross-posting

Japanese readers of this mailing list may be interested to know that the 
Japanese translation of "A Beginner's Guide to R' is now available from:


http://www.springer.jp/978-4-431-10220-5


Kind regards,

Alain Zuur


[ECOLOG-L] faculty position: water sustainability

2011-02-13 Thread Michael Blum
Tenure Track Faculty Position in Water Sustainability

Tulane University School of Public Health and Tropical Medicine invites 
applications for a tenure track faculty position in the Department of 
Environmental Health Sciences at the Assistant or Associate level, with 
rank determined by experience and accomplishments. Senior candidates would 
be those with a track record of research and teaching and demonstrated 
expertise with developing a globally recognized, externally funded 
research program.

The successful candidate will expand the department’s role in research and 
teaching in global environmental health with a focus on water resources. 
Applicants should demonstrate strong interest or experience in cross-
disciplinary research and teaching with respect to water resources in 
urban and developing areas. This includes sustainability of water 
resources, human influences on water resources, hazard identification, 
quantifying exposure, evaluating risk and risk management options. Multi-
dimensional issues of climate variability, population growth and emerging 
pollutants on water quality and public health are also of interest, 
particularly as addressed on a global scale.

Teaching duties in the undergraduate and graduate programs will address 
global environmental health topics such as sustainable resource 
management, proficiency in water and wastewater treatment, hazardous 
chemicals management, and remediation technologies. In addition to 
individual research and teaching requirements, the candidate is expected 
to collaborate in research and teaching within the Department of 
Environmental Health Sciences and other departments in the School of 
Public Health and Tropical Medicine and Tulane University.

Preference will be given to candidates with interests that complement 
existing strengths and can offer opportunities for collaborative research 
and teaching with other faculty in the school and the university. 
Applicants must possess a doctorate in Environmental health or related 
fields, demonstrated excellence in research and teaching at the 
undergraduate and graduate levels. Application review will begin 
immediately and continue until the position is filled. Applicants should 
submit a cover letter, CV, research plan, and contact information for five 
references to:
 
A.J. Englande, Jr., Ph.D., P.E., DEE , Search committee chair
Department of Environmental Health Sciences 
Tulane University School of Public Health & Tropical Medicine 
1440 Canal Street, Suite 2133 
New Orleans, LA 70112-2704 Tel: 504-988-2765 


Tulane is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action employer.


Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?

2011-02-13 Thread Wayne Tyson

Jason and all others in a similar "predicament":

In 1960 I quit a job paying $1,000 a month and took a seasonal GS-4 job 
paying $4,440 per year doing white-pine delineation (survey) work. I was 
soon promoted to GS-5. It was the best job I ever had, and I still use what 
I learned on it every day. I drew unemployment one winter (I worked from 
thaw-up until the snow got too deep), worked in the hardware department of a 
"discount" store for a couple of bucks an hour another winter, and stuck 
with it until the draft was breathing down my neck and joined the Air Force, 
which shipped me off to Turkey, where I spent my time off traveling around 
its super-degraded landscapes and flying all over Europe for free when I had 
enough leave. After getting out I went to school again and split 18 units 
with another $2 an hour job, working well over 40 hours a week. Then I went 
back to the woods and dug cesspools and other odd jobs while squatting in an 
abandoned line-shack. Those were good times too, eating what I could forage.


It all depends on what you're willing to do. Every job, every way of making 
do, has dignity.


The best of life to you,
WT

- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Hernandez" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 4:29 PM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?


I see that the surge of recruiting announcements for the seasonal technician 
jobs is underway. It looks like a lot of important and exciting projects, as 
I would expect. But it is impossible not to notice the time frame: usually 
just spring and summer, some only spring or summer.


I cannot really complain; I am fortunate in that my current job began in 
January, instead of having to wait for April or May. Still, it does end in 
July, about the time so many other jobs are also ending. This means I will 
have to compete with all those other temporary and seasonal technicians for 
my next job.


Which brings me to my question: what does someone like me do in fall and 
winter? Granted, based on my current qualifications, someone I work with 
predicts I could have a permanent position "within two years." But I must 
still make a living DURING those two years. What should I be looking at now 
to maximize my chance of being employed come this fall and next winter?


Jason Hernandez
Biological Science Technician, USDA Forest Service







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Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?

2011-02-13 Thread John Winkowski
I graduated in 2007 from St Lawrence University with my B.S. (double major
in Biology and Environmental Studies) and was in the same boat. Essentially,
as soon as you are hired and begin one seasonal job, the best thing to do is
start applying, or at least looking, for the next. You are competing with
1,000s of people that are struggling to have continuity in employment as
entry level biologists. You need to apply to many positions to keep your
options open and hopefully have some options to work with. If you end up
getting hired onto a project (and you hopefully like that project) keep
contact with your boss upon completion of a season because this could be a
great option for next year. Generally, supervisors like to hire employees
back due to the fact that you are already trained with their protocol, you
know the backcountry where field sites are, they know you've managed to
complete a season before, and you can help train new employees. I managed to
sort of cycle between 3-4 jobs throughout a 3 year period and it worked out
really well.

It is quite the struggle and I suggest meeting a lot of friends along the
way to be prepared to couch surf. It's a period of time that you always have
to be on your toes and most likely live out of your car. Between short
seasons, layoffs, etc you need to keep your options open and always be on
the hunt for new positions if you really want to have work throughout the
year (it is possible!).

Although frustrating and challenging at times, the process is necessary and
I thought very enjoyable. Once you begin to build on your post-graduation
experience you will notice interviews will become more common and job
offerings as well. I found that my experiences took me to places I never
would have gone before and I was able to see the most beautiful parts of
this country while being paid. I saw the time I spent working seasonally
more as an incredible experience than anything. I wouldn't trade those times
for anything. In fact, I kind of wish I was applying for jobs and thinking
about where I would be this summer instead of sitting at my desk analyzing
data now! Trade-offs!

Hope this helped a bit,

John Winkowski
MSc Candidate
Memorial University of Newfoundland


On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:36 AM, David Moldoff  wrote:

> Let me start off by saying that I am in the same boat and hope we both get
> some worthwhile answers here. I recently graduated and have an internship
> from April till July but after that I'm completely lost as to what would
> help my employment chances. I have a few friends with wildlife degrees and
> the way they have been handling "off season" is by finding a job that pays
> the bills and then volunteering for wildlife organizations. I know this
> isn't a great alternative but hopefully other people post some better
> ideas.
>
> David Moldoff
>
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Jason Hernandez <
> jason.hernande...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I see that the surge of recruiting announcements for the seasonal
> > technician jobs is underway.  It looks like a lot of important and
> exciting
> > projects, as I would expect.  But it is impossible not to notice the time
> > frame: usually just spring and summer, some only spring or summer.
> >
> > I cannot really complain; I am fortunate in that my current job began in
> > January, instead of having to wait for April or May.  Still, it does end
> in
> > July, about the time so many other jobs are also ending.  This means I
> will
> > have to compete with all those other temporary and seasonal technicians
> for
> > my next job.
> >
> > Which brings me to my question: what does someone like me do in fall and
> > winter?  Granted, based on my current qualifications, someone I work with
> > predicts I could have a permanent position "within two years."  But I
> must
> > still make a living DURING those two years.  What should I be looking at
> now
> > to maximize my chance of being employed come this fall and next winter?
> >
> > Jason Hernandez
> > Biological Science Technician, USDA Forest Service
> >
> >
>



-- 
"When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to
everything in the universe."


[ECOLOG-L] post-doc position for macroecologist/landscape ecologist at Cornell Lab of Ornithology

2011-02-13 Thread Wesley M Hochachka
The Information Science Program at the Lab of Ornithology is seeking a 
Postdoctoral Associate to work on macro ecological questions related to 
spatiotemporal determinants of bird species' distributions at a continental 
scale within North America. The exact research questions will be determined by 
the post-doctoral appointee in consultation with research staff of the Lab of 
Ornithology, and can be as varied as basic research into birds' distributions, 
applied studies relevant for conservation and management, or development and 
refinement of analytical methods.

Duties and Responsibilities: 
- Apply advanced spatiotemporal modeling and estimation techniques (statistical 
and machine learning techniques including nonparametric and semi parametric 
regression, Bayesian hierarchical models, etc) to answer biological questions, 
using data that integrate broad-scale citizen science observational data with 
remote sensing data that describe environmental characteristics. 
- Some of the analytical challenges and goals that we are interested in having 
addressed as part of the work include the development of efficient strategies 
to explore and quantify complex spatiotemporal patterns as well as methods to 
identify and mitigate biases inherent in citizen science data. 
- The project offering this position is led by Steve Kelling in the Information 
Science unit of the Lab of Ornithology, and involves collaboration with Daniel 
Fink and an interdisciplinary team of researchers in statistics, machine 
learning, ecology, and conservation at Cornell University and at other research 
institutions.

Qualifications: 
- PhD and proven research abilities and experience in large-scale environmental 
modeling. 
- We particularly seek applicants with backgrounds in both ecological sciences 
(macro or landscape ecology) and quantitative sciences (statistics, machine 
learning, etc.) 
- Ideal candidates will demonstrate a strong ability to apply quantitative 
methods to real-world problems; such ability should be highlighted in 
applications for the position. 
- Additional desirable experience and expertise in time series analysis, 
spatial statistics, and High Performance Computing applications are a plus.

APPLICATION PROCEDURE:  Send a letter of application, complete resume, list of 
references and academic transcripts to:  Susan Taggart, Cornell Lab of 
Ornithology, 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, 283A Johnson Center for Birds & 
Biodiversity, Ithaca, NY 14850.  Inquiries about position specifics can be 
directed to Steve Kelling, Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Ithaca, NY 14850.  
Phone: 607-254-2478; Email s...@cornell.edu.  Review of applicants will begin 
immediately and continue until the position is filled.

Wesley M. Hochachka
(w...@cornell.edu)


Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?

2011-02-13 Thread David Moldoff
Let me start off by saying that I am in the same boat and hope we both get
some worthwhile answers here. I recently graduated and have an internship
from April till July but after that I'm completely lost as to what would
help my employment chances. I have a few friends with wildlife degrees and
the way they have been handling "off season" is by finding a job that pays
the bills and then volunteering for wildlife organizations. I know this
isn't a great alternative but hopefully other people post some better ideas.

David Moldoff

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Jason Hernandez <
jason.hernande...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I see that the surge of recruiting announcements for the seasonal
> technician jobs is underway.  It looks like a lot of important and exciting
> projects, as I would expect.  But it is impossible not to notice the time
> frame: usually just spring and summer, some only spring or summer.
>
> I cannot really complain; I am fortunate in that my current job began in
> January, instead of having to wait for April or May.  Still, it does end in
> July, about the time so many other jobs are also ending.  This means I will
> have to compete with all those other temporary and seasonal technicians for
> my next job.
>
> Which brings me to my question: what does someone like me do in fall and
> winter?  Granted, based on my current qualifications, someone I work with
> predicts I could have a permanent position "within two years."  But I must
> still make a living DURING those two years.  What should I be looking at now
> to maximize my chance of being employed come this fall and next winter?
>
> Jason Hernandez
> Biological Science Technician, USDA Forest Service
>
>


Re: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?

2011-02-13 Thread Zurijanne Kelley
Jason,

I share your same predicament. I completed a technician job this past
September and who knows how many jobs I've applied to. For me though one of
the things I've done to make it through the time (partly because student
loans required that I do something) was to go to a temp agency. After that
temp job, completely unrelated to my schooling, I started volunteering at a
wildlife rehab center and with the humane society. Partly, for my sanity and
also to demonstrate that I'm active in the wildlife field and quite serious
about a career. 

Through volunteering I was offered a part time job whose boss works with me
so that I can still volunteer (since she is a rehabber with the lady I
volunteer for) and it helps pay the gas. One of the biggest things I've been
able to do is network. For me Twitter has served as a platform that I can be
exposed to a vast array of current events in conservation via blogs and news
media essentially making contact with professionals/organizations I wouldn't
have otherwise. I'm also taking Wendee Holtcamp's nature writing course to
further skills in writing for my own blog, and burgeoning freelance writing
career. Lastly, it has served as a great time to work on improving my KSA,
resume, and cover letters with every application sent out. 

I'm not an established professional and I look forward to hearing what
others recommend but seek out ways to increase your skills by considering
the area you want to improve the most. Continue to apply to jobs as they pop
up and don't disqualify yourself unless you are absolutely certain you don't
qualify. Consider applying to unrelated career jobs the closer it comes to
the end of your job term just so that job can serve as a cushion until you
get an offer. 


Zuri Kelley
Clemson University Alumni 2009
 

-Original Message-
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Hernandez
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:30 PM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] What do technicians do in the "off" season?

I see that the surge of recruiting announcements for the seasonal technician
jobs is underway.  It looks like a lot of important and exciting projects,
as I would expect.  But it is impossible not to notice the time frame:
usually just spring and summer, some only spring or summer.
 
I cannot really complain; I am fortunate in that my current job began in
January, instead of having to wait for April or May.  Still, it does end in
July, about the time so many other jobs are also ending.  This means I will
have to compete with all those other temporary and seasonal technicians for
my next job.
 
Which brings me to my question: what does someone like me do in fall and
winter?  Granted, based on my current qualifications, someone I work with
predicts I could have a permanent position "within two years."  But I must
still make a living DURING those two years.  What should I be looking at now
to maximize my chance of being employed come this fall and next winter?
 
Jason Hernandez
Biological Science Technician, USDA Forest Service