Re: [ECOLOG-L] Communication Science to Public Plant Roots

2011-05-21 Thread Amartya Saha
There are many experiments with pots divided into wet/dry and nutrient 
enriched/depleted zones, and most of them show greater root growth and density 
in wetter, high nutrient zones. 
The idea of consciousness is an animal-centric one; plants must be just as 
conscious in their own way, as ultimately a part of consciousness is 
recognition and adaptation to the environment, allowing species survival and 
reproduction. 
Genetically programmed to seek water -- don't all organisms seek water ?
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Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Communication Science to Public Plant Roots

This seems to me more like a philosphical issue, rather than a scientific one. 
there are obviously several mechanisms that allow plants to actively "seek" 
water. However, unlike the mechanisms that allow an animal to seek water, such 
as detecting moisture in the wind using smell, they do not require a conscious 
desicion, i.e., the animal may decide to follow or not follow the scent, the 
plant does not have a choice. So the question is whether "seeking" requires a 
conscious desicion to be made by the individual. It could also be argued to 
what extent the desicions made by animals, such as humans, are conscious versus 
subconious and whether a subconcious desicion satisfies the definition of 
"seeking".

-Burak


Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Communication Science to Public Plant Roots

Well, I can't say what the narrator was basing his/her statement upon, but
it can be justified.  Roots are, for the most part, programmed to grow
downward (positive geotropism), and in many if not most soil environments,
water is more abundant at lower levels.  Thus, growing downward means
growing toward water.  (One situation where this doesn't hold true is right
after a rain, when the upper level of soil may be wetter then a lower
level.)

Additionally, roots (like all protoplasm-based structures) need water to
grow.  Thus, roots that are tentatively entering a wet zone (assuming it's
not too wet) will grow faster than roots entering a dry zone, thus setting
up a positive feed-back loop regulating root growth, which obviously has a
genetic component.

Finally, you may consider differential mortality of root cells in wet verus
dry soil regions as also being a genetic program that causes the root SYSTEM
to grow toward water.

I think this is enough to justify the statement.  Of course, the statement
is a bit misleading in that it may call up the image of a little root tip
sniffing first in one direction, and then in another, and finally saying,
"Ah, the water's over there; I'd better grow in that direction."  But this
sort of imagery often colors our understanding of mechanistic processes in
biology, even for scientists (for me, at least).

   Martin M. Meiss

2011/5/19 Wayne Tyson 

> Ecolog:
>
> I just surfed across a "science" program on the "History" channel. The
> narrator said "Plant roots are genetically programmed to seek water . . ."
>
> Will someone please inform me of the basis for this statement?
>
> WT


[ECOLOG-L] Research Assistant, Soil Biogeochemistry and Ecosystem Services at Biosphere 2, University of Arizona

2011-05-21 Thread Mitchell Pavao-Zuckerman
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Re: [ECOLOG-L] Communication Science to Public Plant Roots

2011-05-21 Thread Pekin, Burak K
This seems to me more like a philosphical issue, rather than a scientific one. 
there are obviously several mechanisms that allow plants to actively "seek" 
water. However, unlike the mechanisms that allow an animal to seek water, such 
as detecting moisture in the wind using smell, they do not require a conscious 
desicion, i.e., the animal may decide to follow or not follow the scent, the 
plant does not have a choice. So the question is whether "seeking" requires a 
conscious desicion to be made by the individual. It could also be argued to 
what extent the desicions made by animals, such as humans, are conscious versus 
subconious and whether a subconcious desicion satisfies the definition of 
"seeking".

-Burak


Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Communication Science to Public Plant Roots

Well, I can't say what the narrator was basing his/her statement upon, but
it can be justified.  Roots are, for the most part, programmed to grow
downward (positive geotropism), and in many if not most soil environments,
water is more abundant at lower levels.  Thus, growing downward means
growing toward water.  (One situation where this doesn't hold true is right
after a rain, when the upper level of soil may be wetter then a lower
level.)

Additionally, roots (like all protoplasm-based structures) need water to
grow.  Thus, roots that are tentatively entering a wet zone (assuming it's
not too wet) will grow faster than roots entering a dry zone, thus setting
up a positive feed-back loop regulating root growth, which obviously has a
genetic component.

Finally, you may consider differential mortality of root cells in wet verus
dry soil regions as also being a genetic program that causes the root SYSTEM
to grow toward water.

I think this is enough to justify the statement.  Of course, the statement
is a bit misleading in that it may call up the image of a little root tip
sniffing first in one direction, and then in another, and finally saying,
"Ah, the water's over there; I'd better grow in that direction."  But this
sort of imagery often colors our understanding of mechanistic processes in
biology, even for scientists (for me, at least).

   Martin M. Meiss

2011/5/19 Wayne Tyson 

> Ecolog:
>
> I just surfed across a "science" program on the "History" channel. The
> narrator said "Plant roots are genetically programmed to seek water . . ."
>
> Will someone please inform me of the basis for this statement?
>
> WT


[ECOLOG-L] Job: field biologist

2011-05-21 Thread David Inouye

 FIELD BIOLOGIST

Hudsonia Ltd., a nonprofit scientific research institute, is seeking 
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