Re: [ECOLOG-L] Data sharing in ecology

[malcolm McCallum]

THink about this.

Tycho Brahe is considered one of the observational genious's of his time.
Johannes Kepler is considered one of the theoretical genious's of the same
time.

Kepler used Brahe's data to create his laws of planetary motion.

The laws could not have been created without Brahe's observations.
Brahe's observations would be little more than a curiosity without Kepler's
mathematical findings.

Together they got far.
By themselves, neither would be remembered nearly as well.

Without Kepler's Laws, Newton may never have constructed his law of gravity
which filled in why the
planets maintained their motion.

However, Brahe invited Kepler into his court, but hardly gave Kepler any of
his data!
It was upon Brahe's death that Kepler got full access.
It was Brahe's life work.

No point, just an observation!

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Anon.  wrote:

> Hej!
>
> Last week Nature published a special feature on data sharing
> (http://www.nature.com/news/specials/datasharing/index.html).  it was
> mostly about other areas of science, but I think the problem of how to
> equitably share data is present in ecology too.  SO, I blogged some
> thoughts:
> <
> http://network.nature.com/people/boboh/blog/2009/09/14/data-sharing-some-ramblings
> >
> I'm coming at this from the perspective of someone who wants to use the
> data, and I'd be interested in hearing other views - particularly from
> people who generate data on the problems associated with free access.
>
> All comments are welcome, preferably on my blog (just to keep the
> discussions in one place).
>
> Bob
>
> --
> Bob O'Hara
> WWW:  http://www.RNI.Helsinki.FI/~boh/
> Blog: http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/boboh
> Journal of Negative Results - EEB: www.jnr-eeb.org
>
> Help send my wife to Antarctica (please?)
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Re: [ECOLOG-L] Data sharing in ecology

[Wayne Tyson]

NATURE wants eighteen bucks to download Bob's article. I wonder how many 
have ponied up? I wonder if these "dudes" have ever heard of pricing theory 
(it's a helluva lot easier to find a million suckers with a buck than one 
sucker with a million). Ironic, eh? Data sharing, si! Paper sharing depends 
on how badly one wants to read or scan the paper. Libraries used to be 
"free" (tax-supported or supported by other functions). Now that there is a 
MUCH cheaper alternative (Internet) to clay-paper publishing, the Big 
Journals look upon downloads as a "profit-center." There is no "passing 
forward" of the economies, but there is a hustling and a-gouging.


WT


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From: "Anon." 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Data sharing in ecology



Hej!

Last week Nature published a special feature on data sharing
(http://www.nature.com/news/specials/datasharing/index.html).  it was
mostly about other areas of science, but I think the problem of how to
equitably share data is present in ecology too.  SO, I blogged some
thoughts:
<http://network.nature.com/people/boboh/blog/2009/09/14/data-sharing-some-ramblings>
I'm coming at this from the perspective of someone who wants to use the
data, and I'd be interested in hearing other views - particularly from
people who generate data on the problems associated with free access.

All comments are welcome, preferably on my blog (just to keep the
discussions in one place).

Bob

--
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WWW:  http://www.RNI.Helsinki.FI/~boh/
Blog: http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/boboh
Journal of Negative Results - EEB: www.jnr-eeb.org

Help send my wife to Antarctica (please?)
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[ECOLOG-L] Data sharing in ecology

[Anon.]

Hej!

Last week Nature published a special feature on data sharing
(http://www.nature.com/news/specials/datasharing/index.html).  it was
mostly about other areas of science, but I think the problem of how to
equitably share data is present in ecology too.  SO, I blogged some
thoughts:

I'm coming at this from the perspective of someone who wants to use the
data, and I'd be interested in hearing other views - particularly from
people who generate data on the problems associated with free access.

All comments are welcome, preferably on my blog (just to keep the
discussions in one place).

Bob

--
Bob O'Hara
WWW:  http://www.RNI.Helsinki.FI/~boh/
Blog: http://network.nature.com/blogs/user/boboh
Journal of Negative Results - EEB: www.jnr-eeb.org

Help send my wife to Antarctica (please?)
http://www.blogyourwaytoantarctica.com/blogs/view/152