[ECOLOG-L] Fwd: [ECOLOG-L] To capitalize or not to capitalize

2009-10-05 Thread Eric Schauber
When I write about white-tailed deer I do not mean any deer with white on
its tail. Similarly, when I write about a spotted salamander, I do not mean
any salamander with spots, nor with spicebush swallowtail, nor a fat
pocketbook mussel.

Only with birds is this tyranny of capitalization held up as gospel.  I
think we can all agree that respect for scientific authority is valued by
those who study all types of animals, so let's just come out and admit that
it's a socially enforced convention among ornithologists to require
capitalization.

-- 
Eric Schauber

Wildlife Ecologist -- Coop. Wildlife Research Lab
Associate Professor of Zoology
Center for Ecology
Southern Illinois University Carbondale
(618) 453-6940
(618) 453-6944 (fax)


On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:13 PM, David Anderson dand...@tigers.lsu.eduwrote:

 It is important to separate vernacular names from professionally designated
 common names assigned to species.  The American Ornithologists' Union is the
 authority that names birds in North America, and names of birds are
 capitalized: Chipping Sparrow, Lovely Cotinga.  These names are associated
 with taxonomic binomials consistent with the recognized status of species.
  A chipping sparrow is any sparrow seen chipping.  A Chipping Sparrow refers
 to Spizella passerina.  All cotingas are lovely indeed, but only Lovely
 Cotinga refers to Cotinga amabilis.  Birds have many common names.  A hoot
 owl means nothing in particular.  A rain crow is a Common Nighthawk.
  When popular magazines, e.g., National Geographic, Audubon, incorrectly
 refer to chipping sparrows and lovely cotingas they are ignoring the
 scientific authority and tradition that separates vernacular from science,
 and in so doing they blur the boundary between common and scientific
 observations and knowledge.



 David L. Anderson
 Ph.D. Candidate
 Museum of Natural Science
 Louisiana State University
 225-578-5393
 dand...@tigers.lsu.edu
 http://www.museum.lsu.edu/Anderson/index.htm








-- 
Eric Schauber

Wildlife Ecologist -- Coop. Wildlife Research Lab
Associate Professor of Zoology
Center for Ecology
Southern Illinois University Carbondale
(618) 453-6940
(618) 453-6944 (fax)


Re: [ECOLOG-L] Fwd: [ECOLOG-L] To capitalize or not to capitalize

2009-10-05 Thread Kim van der Linde
Well, when you write about it, it might be obvious to you because you 
know what you mean, but to me, it is not because I have to extract this 
out of the context, the name itself is generally ambiguous.


The key is the discussion is whether or not names of animals are common 
nouns or proper nouns. Once the species within a group have each has a 
single established name, it becomes a proper noun. For most species, 
except birds, there is no such standardization. I personally would 
prefer to treat each name as a proper noun, but unfortunately that kind 
of clarity will take a long time.


Kim

Eric Schauber wrote:

When I write about white-tailed deer I do not mean any deer with white on
its tail. Similarly, when I write about a spotted salamander, I do not mean
any salamander with spots, nor with spicebush swallowtail, nor a fat
pocketbook mussel.

Only with birds is this tyranny of capitalization held up as gospel.  I
think we can all agree that respect for scientific authority is valued by
those who study all types of animals, so let's just come out and admit that
it's a socially enforced convention among ornithologists to require
capitalization.

  


--
http://www.kimvdlinde.com


Re: [ECOLOG-L] Fwd: [ECOLOG-L] To capitalize or not to capitalize

2009-10-05 Thread Robert Hole
So, Dr. Schauber, with this logic you advocate not italicizing
scientific names and never capitalizing genus, family, order,
whatever? Because when I write about hemionus or cervidae I'm not
writing about just any mammal, and it's only the tyranny of biologists
that keep those conventions alive.

Of course then, I started this incorrectly by that logic too - dr.
schauber (because I'm not talking about just any schauber, I know who
I'm talking about).

Yes, I'm being silly, but I'm applying the logic you outlined.

There may be other reasons to cap or not to cap - newspapers don't do
it for any animal, as I've been told over and over by my
Communications Major museum editors. Trained as an ornithologist, it
drives me nuts, but I live with it.

Robert Hole, Jr.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Eric Schauber schau...@siu.edu wrote:
 When I write about white-tailed deer I do not mean any deer with white on
 its tail. Similarly, when I write about a spotted salamander, I do not mean
 any salamander with spots, nor with spicebush swallowtail, nor a fat
 pocketbook mussel.

 Only with birds is this tyranny of capitalization held up as gospel.  I
 think we can all agree that respect for scientific authority is valued by
 those who study all types of animals, so let's just come out and admit that
 it's a socially enforced convention among ornithologists to require
 capitalization.

 --
 Eric Schauber

 Wildlife Ecologist -- Coop. Wildlife Research Lab
 Associate Professor of Zoology
 Center for Ecology
 Southern Illinois University Carbondale
 (618) 453-6940
 (618) 453-6944 (fax)


 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:13 PM, David Anderson dand...@tigers.lsu.eduwrote:

 It is important to separate vernacular names from professionally designated
 common names assigned to species.  The American Ornithologists' Union is the
 authority that names birds in North America, and names of birds are
 capitalized: Chipping Sparrow, Lovely Cotinga.  These names are associated
 with taxonomic binomials consistent with the recognized status of species.
  A chipping sparrow is any sparrow seen chipping.  A Chipping Sparrow refers
 to Spizella passerina.  All cotingas are lovely indeed, but only Lovely
 Cotinga refers to Cotinga amabilis.  Birds have many common names.  A hoot
 owl means nothing in particular.  A rain crow is a Common Nighthawk.
  When popular magazines, e.g., National Geographic, Audubon, incorrectly
 refer to chipping sparrows and lovely cotingas they are ignoring the
 scientific authority and tradition that separates vernacular from science,
 and in so doing they blur the boundary between common and scientific
 observations and knowledge.



 David L. Anderson
 Ph.D. Candidate
 Museum of Natural Science
 Louisiana State University
 225-578-5393
 dand...@tigers.lsu.edu
 http://www.museum.lsu.edu/Anderson/index.htm








 --
 Eric Schauber

 Wildlife Ecologist -- Coop. Wildlife Research Lab
 Associate Professor of Zoology
 Center for Ecology
 Southern Illinois University Carbondale
 (618) 453-6940
 (618) 453-6944 (fax)