Re: [ECOLOG-L] Nonprofit publishers of ecology related journals

[Malcolm McCallum]

I dont' see a problem with a for-profit journal, its the principle of
soaking researchers for the value of the publication that is out-of-whack.
When publication costs for an online outfit are priced at over $1,000 for
an article, it is largely undefendable.  I have been publishing a journal
for a decade with a group of herpetologists.  I know how much things cost
and how much automata is available.  I seriously doubt that total costs per
article for a given journal that is online open-access exceed 10% of that
for the big corporate publishers.  Like I alluded to earlier, if HCB were
to adopt all of the services for its one journal, the cost would be to high
to defend due to economy of scales.  However, it becomes exceedingly cheap
for large publishers for the same reasons.  The online jouranl is a very
lucrative business for these publishers, and they know 90% of who are using
their services have no clue how little they will really spend on any new
adopted publication.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:07 PM, James Browne  wrote:

> A different way to look at the question of getting a list of
> not-for-profit publishers is to ask for a list of ones that are the
> best value in which to be published.  I would like that one.
>
> Even if you have access to pay-walled papers, simple impact factor is
> not the only consideration if you don't have much funding to cover
> page costs. Some knowledge of the costs to researchers and others who
> would like to read you work is a consideration, but choosing a journal
> can be daunting.
>
> Another thought is the business model and longevity of open access
> journals. It will not help to publish but not accessible a few years
> or even months later, neither on library shelves nor a server farm.
>Jim
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:00 AM, ECOLOG-L automatic digest system
>  wrote:
> > There are 13 messages totalling 875 lines in this issue.
> >
> > Topics of the day:
> >
> >   1. Landscape Ecology of Pollination Postdoc
> >   2. Postdoc and 2 PhD positions at RMIT University, Melbourne, Australia
> >   3. M.S. Graduate Research Assistantship in Landscape Connectivity
> Modeling,
> >  University of Illinois at Springfield
> >   4. Field Technicians - Osprey Recovery in Illinois
> >   5. Nonprofit publishers of ecology related journals (2)
> >   6. Dear Colleague Letter - Stimulating research using NEON data
> >   7. Job: COORDINATOR OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
> >   8. Grad Assistantships in Forest Nutrient Cycling:  May or June 2015
> >   9. Harmful Algal Bloom Research Scientist Position
> >  10. Summer REU coordinator (temporary position)
> >  11. WA DNR Northwest Region Engineer Job Opening
> >  12. Field assistant positions in pollination ecology - CLARIFICATION
> >
> > --
> >
> > Date:Wed, 1 Apr 2015 23:17:49 -0400
> > From:=?windows-1252?Q?Rufus_Isaacs?= 
> > Subject: Landscape Ecology of Pollination Postdoc
> >
> > Michigan State University=92s Department of Entomology seeks a
> post-docto=
> > ral=20
> > research associate to study pollination in agricultural landscapes. The
> i=
> > nitial=20
> > focus of this position will be on understanding and developing models
> for=
> >  how=20
> > local and landscape manipulations affect pollinators and pollination
> serv=
> > ice=20
> > provisioning, with plans to integrate additional ecosystem services into
> =
> > the=20
> > framework as the research develops. This position will be based in
> Rufus=20=
> >
> > Isaacs=92 laboratory and will work closely with Doug Landis=92
> laboratory=
> > . The=20
> > preferred candidate will hold a Ph.D in environmental biology,
> conservati=
> > on=20
> > science, entomology or ecology, and will have experience with spatial=20
> > statistics, GIS, mechanistic and empirical modelling, and R and/or
> Python=
> > =20
> > programming. Detailed knowledge of insect biology would be useful.
> Experi=
> > ence=20
> > in modelling ecosystem services from a variety of domains (e.g., insect-
> > mediated services, water quality, cultural services) would be an asset.
> T=
> > he=20
> > full position description and application information are available
> at:=20=
> >
> > www.ent.msu.edu and application materials are due April 29.=20
> >
> > --
> >
> > Date:Thu, 2 Apr 2015 16:40:56 +1100
> > From:Ascelin Gordon 
> > Subject: Postdoc and 2 PhD positions at RMIT University, Melbourne,
> Australia
> >
> > *Postdoc and 2 PhD positions at RMIT University, Melbourne *
> >
> > We are looking for one postdoctoral fellow and have scholarships
> > available for 2 PhD students to work on two ARC funded projects at RMIT
> > University, Melbourne. Both projects will be based at RMIT (city campus)
> > within the Interdisciplinary Conservation Science Group
> > <
> http://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-schools/global-urban-and-social-studies/research/research-centres-and-

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Nonprofit publishers of ecology related journals

[Alan Wilson]

Hey James et al. - This site might help you - 
http://www.eigenfactor.org/openaccess/  Although it shows a positive 
correlation between article influence and publication costs, there are many 
open-access journals with good influence that have no or low publication costs. 
 Alan

---
Alan Wilson
Program Director - National Science Foundation - Population and Community 
Ecology
&
Associate Professor - Auburn University - Fisheries - www.wilsonlab.com - 
703-292-5190


From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news 
[ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu] on behalf of James Browne [ecoj...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 4:07 PM
To: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Nonprofit publishers of ecology related journals

A different way to look at the question of getting a list of
not-for-profit publishers is to ask for a list of ones that are the
best value in which to be published.  I would like that one.

Even if you have access to pay-walled papers, simple impact factor is
not the only consideration if you don't have much funding to cover
page costs. Some knowledge of the costs to researchers and others who
would like to read you work is a consideration, but choosing a journal
can be daunting.

Another thought is the business model and longevity of open access
journals. It will not help to publish but not accessible a few years
or even months later, neither on library shelves nor a server farm.
   Jim

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:00 AM, ECOLOG-L automatic digest system
 wrote:
> There are 13 messages totalling 875 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. Landscape Ecology of Pollination Postdoc
>   2. Postdoc and 2 PhD positions at RMIT University, Melbourne, Australia
>   3. M.S. Graduate Research Assistantship in Landscape Connectivity Modeling,
>  University of Illinois at Springfield
>   4. Field Technicians - Osprey Recovery in Illinois
>   5. Nonprofit publishers of ecology related journals (2)
>   6. Dear Colleague Letter - Stimulating research using NEON data
>   7. Job: COORDINATOR OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
>   8. Grad Assistantships in Forest Nutrient Cycling:  May or June 2015
>   9. Harmful Algal Bloom Research Scientist Position
>  10. Summer REU coordinator (temporary position)
>  11. WA DNR Northwest Region Engineer Job Opening
>  12. Field assistant positions in pollination ecology - CLARIFICATION
>
> --
>
> Date:Wed, 1 Apr 2015 23:17:49 -0400
> From:=?windows-1252?Q?Rufus_Isaacs?= 
> Subject: Landscape Ecology of Pollination Postdoc
>
> Michigan State University=92s Department of Entomology seeks a post-docto=
> ral=20
> research associate to study pollination in agricultural landscapes. The i=
> nitial=20
> focus of this position will be on understanding and developing models for=
>  how=20
> local and landscape manipulations affect pollinators and pollination serv=
> ice=20
> provisioning, with plans to integrate additional ecosystem services into =
> the=20
> framework as the research develops. This position will be based in Rufus=20=
>
> Isaacs=92 laboratory and will work closely with Doug Landis=92 laboratory=
> . The=20
> preferred candidate will hold a Ph.D in environmental biology, conservati=
> on=20
> science, entomology or ecology, and will have experience with spatial=20
> statistics, GIS, mechanistic and empirical modelling, and R and/or Python=
> =20
> programming. Detailed knowledge of insect biology would be useful. Experi=
> ence=20
> in modelling ecosystem services from a variety of domains (e.g., insect-
> mediated services, water quality, cultural services) would be an asset. T=
> he=20
> full position description and application information are available at:=20=
>
> www.ent.msu.edu and application materials are due April 29.=20
>
> --
>
> Date:Thu, 2 Apr 2015 16:40:56 +1100
> From:Ascelin Gordon 
> Subject: Postdoc and 2 PhD positions at RMIT University, Melbourne, Australia
>
> *Postdoc and 2 PhD positions at RMIT University, Melbourne *
>
> We are looking for one postdoctoral fellow and have scholarships
> available for 2 PhD students to work on two ARC funded projects at RMIT
> University, Melbourne. Both projects will be based at RMIT (city campus)
> within the Interdisciplinary Conservation Science Group
> <http://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-schools/global-urban-and-social-studies/research/research-centres-and-groups/interdisciplinary-conservation-science/>
> with the potential for national and international travel.
>
> *Evaluating environment policy that has immediate costs but long-term gains*
>
> PhD and postdoctoral fellow

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Nonprofit publishers of ecology related journals

[Malcolm McCallum]

Most open access journals are archived in any number of locations, not the
least of which is the INternet Archive.

The idea that things on the internet disappear is actually more a myth than
reality.  Anything of merit tends to get archived somewhere by libraries or
other organizations.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:07 PM, James Browne  wrote:

> A different way to look at the question of getting a list of
> not-for-profit publishers is to ask for a list of ones that are the
> best value in which to be published.  I would like that one.
>
> Even if you have access to pay-walled papers, simple impact factor is
> not the only consideration if you don't have much funding to cover
> page costs. Some knowledge of the costs to researchers and others who
> would like to read you work is a consideration, but choosing a journal
> can be daunting.
>
> Another thought is the business model and longevity of open access
> journals. It will not help to publish but not accessible a few years
> or even months later, neither on library shelves nor a server farm.
>Jim
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:00 AM, ECOLOG-L automatic digest system
>  wrote:
> > There are 13 messages totalling 875 lines in this issue.
> >
> > Topics of the day:
> >
> >   1. Landscape Ecology of Pollination Postdoc
> >   2. Postdoc and 2 PhD positions at RMIT University, Melbourne, Australia
> >   3. M.S. Graduate Research Assistantship in Landscape Connectivity
> Modeling,
> >  University of Illinois at Springfield
> >   4. Field Technicians - Osprey Recovery in Illinois
> >   5. Nonprofit publishers of ecology related journals (2)
> >   6. Dear Colleague Letter - Stimulating research using NEON data
> >   7. Job: COORDINATOR OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
> >   8. Grad Assistantships in Forest Nutrient Cycling:  May or June 2015
> >   9. Harmful Algal Bloom Research Scientist Position
> >  10. Summer REU coordinator (temporary position)
> >  11. WA DNR Northwest Region Engineer Job Opening
> >  12. Field assistant positions in pollination ecology - CLARIFICATION
> >
> > --
> >
> > Date:Wed, 1 Apr 2015 23:17:49 -0400
> > From:=?windows-1252?Q?Rufus_Isaacs?= 
> > Subject: Landscape Ecology of Pollination Postdoc
> >
> > Michigan State University=92s Department of Entomology seeks a
> post-docto=
> > ral=20
> > research associate to study pollination in agricultural landscapes. The
> i=
> > nitial=20
> > focus of this position will be on understanding and developing models
> for=
> >  how=20
> > local and landscape manipulations affect pollinators and pollination
> serv=
> > ice=20
> > provisioning, with plans to integrate additional ecosystem services into
> =
> > the=20
> > framework as the research develops. This position will be based in
> Rufus=20=
> >
> > Isaacs=92 laboratory and will work closely with Doug Landis=92
> laboratory=
> > . The=20
> > preferred candidate will hold a Ph.D in environmental biology,
> conservati=
> > on=20
> > science, entomology or ecology, and will have experience with spatial=20
> > statistics, GIS, mechanistic and empirical modelling, and R and/or
> Python=
> > =20
> > programming. Detailed knowledge of insect biology would be useful.
> Experi=
> > ence=20
> > in modelling ecosystem services from a variety of domains (e.g., insect-
> > mediated services, water quality, cultural services) would be an asset.
> T=
> > he=20
> > full position description and application information are available
> at:=20=
> >
> > www.ent.msu.edu and application materials are due April 29.=20
> >
> > --
> >
> > Date:Thu, 2 Apr 2015 16:40:56 +1100
> > From:Ascelin Gordon 
> > Subject: Postdoc and 2 PhD positions at RMIT University, Melbourne,
> Australia
> >
> > *Postdoc and 2 PhD positions at RMIT University, Melbourne *
> >
> > We are looking for one postdoctoral fellow and have scholarships
> > available for 2 PhD students to work on two ARC funded projects at RMIT
> > University, Melbourne. Both projects will be based at RMIT (city campus)
> > within the Interdisciplinary Conservation Science Group
> > <
> http://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-schools/global-urban-and-social-studies/research/research-centres-and-groups/interdisciplinary-conservation-science/
> >
> > with the potential for national and international travel.
> >
> > *Evaluating environment policy that has immediate costs but long-term
> gains*
> >
> > PhD and postdoctoral fellow opportunity
> >
> > A fundamental challenge for environmental policies is the different
> > timescales over which ecological and financial costs and benefits occur.
> > For example, whilst revegetation to offset land clearing incurs
> > immediate costs, it can take decades for it to become suitable habitat
> > for wildlife. These long time lags can lead to inefficiencies in
> > spending and poor environmental outcomes. This project will develop
> > novel a

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Nonprofit publishers of ecology related journals

[James Browne]

A different way to look at the question of getting a list of
not-for-profit publishers is to ask for a list of ones that are the
best value in which to be published.  I would like that one.

Even if you have access to pay-walled papers, simple impact factor is
not the only consideration if you don't have much funding to cover
page costs. Some knowledge of the costs to researchers and others who
would like to read you work is a consideration, but choosing a journal
can be daunting.

Another thought is the business model and longevity of open access
journals. It will not help to publish but not accessible a few years
or even months later, neither on library shelves nor a server farm.
   Jim

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:00 AM, ECOLOG-L automatic digest system
 wrote:
> There are 13 messages totalling 875 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. Landscape Ecology of Pollination Postdoc
>   2. Postdoc and 2 PhD positions at RMIT University, Melbourne, Australia
>   3. M.S. Graduate Research Assistantship in Landscape Connectivity Modeling,
>  University of Illinois at Springfield
>   4. Field Technicians - Osprey Recovery in Illinois
>   5. Nonprofit publishers of ecology related journals (2)
>   6. Dear Colleague Letter - Stimulating research using NEON data
>   7. Job: COORDINATOR OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
>   8. Grad Assistantships in Forest Nutrient Cycling:  May or June 2015
>   9. Harmful Algal Bloom Research Scientist Position
>  10. Summer REU coordinator (temporary position)
>  11. WA DNR Northwest Region Engineer Job Opening
>  12. Field assistant positions in pollination ecology - CLARIFICATION
>
> --
>
> Date:Wed, 1 Apr 2015 23:17:49 -0400
> From:=?windows-1252?Q?Rufus_Isaacs?= 
> Subject: Landscape Ecology of Pollination Postdoc
>
> Michigan State University=92s Department of Entomology seeks a post-docto=
> ral=20
> research associate to study pollination in agricultural landscapes. The i=
> nitial=20
> focus of this position will be on understanding and developing models for=
>  how=20
> local and landscape manipulations affect pollinators and pollination serv=
> ice=20
> provisioning, with plans to integrate additional ecosystem services into =
> the=20
> framework as the research develops. This position will be based in Rufus=20=
>
> Isaacs=92 laboratory and will work closely with Doug Landis=92 laboratory=
> . The=20
> preferred candidate will hold a Ph.D in environmental biology, conservati=
> on=20
> science, entomology or ecology, and will have experience with spatial=20
> statistics, GIS, mechanistic and empirical modelling, and R and/or Python=
> =20
> programming. Detailed knowledge of insect biology would be useful. Experi=
> ence=20
> in modelling ecosystem services from a variety of domains (e.g., insect-
> mediated services, water quality, cultural services) would be an asset. T=
> he=20
> full position description and application information are available at:=20=
>
> www.ent.msu.edu and application materials are due April 29.=20
>
> --
>
> Date:Thu, 2 Apr 2015 16:40:56 +1100
> From:Ascelin Gordon 
> Subject: Postdoc and 2 PhD positions at RMIT University, Melbourne, Australia
>
> *Postdoc and 2 PhD positions at RMIT University, Melbourne *
>
> We are looking for one postdoctoral fellow and have scholarships
> available for 2 PhD students to work on two ARC funded projects at RMIT
> University, Melbourne. Both projects will be based at RMIT (city campus)
> within the Interdisciplinary Conservation Science Group
> 
> with the potential for national and international travel.
>
> *Evaluating environment policy that has immediate costs but long-term gains*
>
> PhD and postdoctoral fellow opportunity
>
> A fundamental challenge for environmental policies is the different
> timescales over which ecological and financial costs and benefits occur.
> For example, whilst revegetation to offset land clearing incurs
> immediate costs, it can take decades for it to become suitable habitat
> for wildlife. These long time lags can lead to inefficiencies in
> spending and poor environmental outcomes. This project will develop
> novel approaches for evaluating the future impacts of environmental
> policies and new methods for improving their design. The methods will be
> tested and demonstrated in the policy context of biodiversity
> offsetting, which is set to play a key role in nature conservation globally.
>
> The postdoctoral fellow and PhD positions will undertake research around
> developing integrated approaches for model-based evaluations of the
> ecological impacts of biodiversity offset policies. There will be a
> focus on applying strategic foresight techniques such as backcasting,

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Nonprofit publishers of ecology related journals

[Alan Wilson]

Ted Bergstrom has done a terrific job compiling this type of journal 
information at http://www.journalprices.com/   The journal dataset can be 
directly downloaded at http://www.journalprices.com/SummaryData.xls  
Classifying the journals as non-profit or for-profit can be somewhat tricky, of 
course. By way of explanation, Ted writes "In this list, we have tried to list 
the profit status of journal owners rather than journal publishers, because 
many societies own their own journals and control the pricing, but have a 
commercial publisher handle the subscriptions.  I am sure that we have not got 
all of this straightened out, but we have made a try.  The best way I have 
found to check ownership is to look at an article in the journal and see who 
has the copyright, the publisher or a society."

Lastly, I would like to make a plug for a past, relevant paper by Ted and Carl 
Bergstrom.  This article had a profound effect on my thoughts about scientific 
publishing and continues to influence where my students and I submit 
manuscripts.
Bergstrom, C. T. and T. C. Bergstrom. 2006. The economics of ecology journals. 
Frontiers in Ecology and the Environment 4(9):488-495  
http://octavia.zoology.washington.edu/publications/BergstromAndBergstrom06.pdf

--
Alan Wilson 
Program Director - National Science Foundation - Population and Community 
Ecology
&
Associate Professor - Auburn University - Fisheries - www.wilsonlab.com - 
703-292-5190

-Original Message-
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news 
[mailto:ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu] On Behalf Of Sheila Ward
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 6:30 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Nonprofit publishers of ecology related journals

Dear all:

Please send me the names of nonprofit publishers and the journals they publish 
that are in some way related to ecology. I will compile a list and get it back 
to ecolog, or make it available for those who would like it.

--
Sheila Ward, PhD