Re: EDI and XML standards

2000-09-18 Thread Mark Crawford

Dave,

When you talk about XML standards, the question to ask yourself is do you
require "accredited", "cross-industry", "industry specific", "supply-chain(trade
group) specific", or application specific" standards.

In the area of accredited standards, ANSI ASC X12 is just beginning to do
work with XML.  They have formed an XML Task Group that is wrestling with
exactly how that organization should approach developing XML standards.
Meanwhile, several subcommittees within X12 have begun exploratory work with
developing XML schemas. UN/EDIFACT has officially deferred all work on XML
standards pending delivery of ebXML (however there is a move afoot to move
out.on schema development within several D groups).

In the area of cross-industry standards, ebXML currently has the lead.  They
are developing a technical framework for XML that although heavily focused on
the technical aspects of exchanges (architecture; transport, routing, packaging;
registryrepository; trading partner agreements)  is also doing some work on
harmonizing various business modeling approaches (UN/CEFACT UMM; Rosettanet) and
in using that harmonized business modeling approach to develop syntax neutral
core components that will be the basis for "standardized" XML exchanges.  My
assessment is that the technical aspect work will be completed in the announced
18 month ebXML timeframe, and that the business process and core components work
will transition to UN/EDIFACT (Perhaps in partnership with ANSI X12) or some
other international accredited standards body.

In the area of "industry specific" and "supply chain specific" standards, of
course RosettaNet leads the way, with more than 450 other initiatives also
underway.  In my view RosettaNet has a view towards becoming a true
cross-industry international XML standards body and certainly bears watching
even for those not involved in the IT and electronics industry supply chains.
OASIS has promise for developing standards, and Jon Bosak has lead an effort to
develop a new standards development methodology.  Whether this is successful,
and how many standards efforts will be initiated within OASIS is yet to be
determined.

Not many people consider standards from CommerceOne, Ariba, those developed
within the Biztalk framework, other solutions vendors to be different that
industry or supply chain specific.  I tend to categorize them as different
because in many cases they have  extended the core XML syntax or developed other
proprietary hooks that although may allow for interoperability with competing
"standards", does not provide full value unless used between trading partners
who employ the parent host application.

Mark
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Re: EDI and XML standards

2000-09-15 Thread Williams, Ian

Currently there is no single set of XML standards for EDI transactions in the same way 
as ANSI X12 or UN/EDIFACT are defined.

There are a number of initiatives currently underway to define business transactions 
in XML syntax.  Some of the better known ones are :

ebXML - a joint effort between Oasis and UN/CEFACT (see http://www.ebxml.org/) - in my 
humble opinion the one most likely to succeed in defining truly global 'EDI-like 
standards'

Rosettanet - a joint effort in the IT supply chain industry (see 
http://www.rosettanet.org/)

CommerceOne - an initiative defining xCBL (Common Business Library) - (see 
http://www.commerceone.com/xml/index.html)

Bolero - a joint effort between SWIFT and TTClub (see 
http://www.bolero.net/boleroxml/introduction/)

It's really a matter of watching and waiting to see if the truly global standards 
emerge at the same time as keeping an eye on appropriate developments in your specific 
industry.

Kind Regards,

Ian Williams
EDI Consultant
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-Original Message-
From: Dave Feldman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 September 2000 02:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: EDI and XML standards


I am a little confused about the XML EDI.  Does there exist a standard for
the XML DTD to represent the EDI document?  If so where can I get this
standard?  If not, how far away is this being accomplished or is even?
Thanks. DF.
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