Repeated Measures ANOVA

2000-06-13 Thread alfseet

Hi.

I have conducted an experiment with 4 within subject variables.
1) Colour
2) Shape
3) Pattern
4) Movement

Each of these 4 factors have 2 levels so each subject would be exposed
to 16 conditions in total. However, I have made each subject do 10
replications per condition and I have 10 subjects so I have a total of
1600 data points.

I have tried using SPSS repeated measures in GLM to analyse my data but
I don't know how to include my replications. SPSS requires that I
select 16 columns of dependant variables each representing a
combination of my factors. However, I am only allowed one row per
subject, so how do I input the 10 replications that each subject
performed for each combination?

Thanks !

Alfred





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Re: Repeated Measures ANOVA

2000-06-13 Thread Thom Baguley

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I have conducted an experiment with 4 within subject variables.
 1) Colour
 2) Shape
 3) Pattern
 4) Movement
 
 Each of these 4 factors have 2 levels so each subject would be exposed
 to 16 conditions in total. However, I have made each subject do 10
 replications per condition and I have 10 subjects so I have a total of
 1600 data points.
 
 I have tried using SPSS repeated measures in GLM to analyse my data but
 I don't know how to include my replications. SPSS requires that I
 select 16 columns of dependant variables each representing a
 combination of my factors. However, I am only allowed one row per
 subject, so how do I input the 10 replications that each subject
 performed for each combination?

You have 5 within subject variables. Include a 10 level factor "replication"
or use the mean for the 10 replications as the DV (though there are problems
with this).

Thom


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Re: Repeated Measures ANOVA

2000-06-13 Thread Bruce Weaver

On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I have conducted an experiment with 4 within subject variables.
 1) Colour
 2) Shape
 3) Pattern
 4) Movement
 
 Each of these 4 factors have 2 levels so each subject would be exposed
 to 16 conditions in total. However, I have made each subject do 10
 replications per condition and I have 10 subjects so I have a total of
 1600 data points.
 
 I have tried using SPSS repeated measures in GLM to analyse my data but
 I don't know how to include my replications. SPSS requires that I
 select 16 columns of dependant variables each representing a
 combination of my factors. However, I am only allowed one row per
 subject, so how do I input the 10 replications that each subject
 performed for each combination?
 
 Thanks !
 
 Alfred
 

Hi Alfred,
You might be better off using UNIANOVA for this analysis instead 
of GLM.  For example, here's the GLM syntax for a mixed-design (A and B as 
between subjects variables; C and D within-subjects):

GLM
  c1d1 c1d2 c2d1 c2d2 c3d1 c3d2 BY a b
  /WSFACTOR = c 3 Polynomial d 2 Polynomial
  /METHOD = SSTYPE(3)
  /CRITERIA = ALPHA(.05)
  /WSDESIGN = c d c*d
  /DESIGN = a b a*b .

This analysis required the 6 repeated meaures (3*2) to be strung out
across one row for each subject.  But I was able to produce exactly the
same results using 6 rows per subject (one for each of the c*d
combinations) and the following syntax: 

UNIANOVA
  y  BY subj a b c d
  /RANDOM = subj
  /METHOD = SSTYPE(3)
  /INTERCEPT = INCLUDE
  /EMMEANS = TABLES(OVERALL)
  /EMMEANS = TABLES(a)
  /EMMEANS = TABLES(b)
  /EMMEANS = TABLES(c)
  /EMMEANS = TABLES(d)
  /CRITERIA = ALPHA(.05)
  /DESIGN = a b a*b subj(a*b) 
c c*a c*b c*a*b  c*subj(a*b)
d d*a d*b d*a*b  d*subj(a*b)
c*d c*d*a c*d*b c*d*a*b  c*d*subj(a*b).

Note that SUBJ is now listed explicitly as one of the variables.  And you 
must explicitly list each of the error terms for within-subjects 
effects.  If you do not list these error terms, a pooled error term is 
used for tests of the within-subjects effects.  Finally, note as well 
that SUBJ appears on the /Random line; and the nesting of subjects within 
a*b cells is indicated as subj(a*b).

I haven't tried this with a completely within-subjects design.  But if you
let y=DV a=colour b=shape c=pattern d=movement e = repetition (as
suggested by Donald Burril), your syntax should look something like this,
I think: 

UNIANOVA
  y  BY subj a b c d e
  /RANDOM = subj e
  /METHOD = SSTYPE(3)
  /INTERCEPT = INCLUDE
  /EMMEANS = TABLES(a)
  /EMMEANS = TABLES(b)
  /EMMEANS = TABLES(c)
  /EMMEANS = TABLES(d)
  /EMMEANS = TABLES(d)
  /CRITERIA = ALPHA(.05)
  /DESIGN = a a*subj
b b*subj
c c*subj
d d*subj
e e*subj
a*b a*b*subj
a*c a*c*subj
etc...
a*b*c*d*e a*b*c*d*e*subj .

Your data file would have 2*2*2*2*10 = 160 rows per subject with variables
that code for a-e and another for the DV. 

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Bruce
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Re: Repeated Measures ANOVA

2000-06-13 Thread Gene Gallagher

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donald Burrill) wrote:
 Sounds to me as though you have in fact 5 within-subject variables:
 the four you list plus
   5) Replications (with 10 levels)
 Of course, this is a random factor, whereas the other four are
presumably
 fixed factors, but presumably there's a way of telling GLM that.

snip

I believe you (another post comes up with the same solution).  Do
you have a citation for a book chapter or article that discusses
the general issue of replication in repeated measures designs?  I'm
intrigued about the value of having subjects doing lots of
replicate trials.
--
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ECOS, UMASS/Boston

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