Re: comparing 2 slopes

2001-07-14 Thread Ellen Hertz

Mike,
 Yes, you are correct. A purist might say that you didn't actually prove
that the slopes are the same, only that you failed to demonstrate a
significant difference between them (because non-significant parameters can
become significant with more data). However, your interpretation is correct
and, also, including an interaction term to examine its statistical
significance is the best approach.

Ellen Hertz
"Mike Tonkovich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Was hoping someone might be able to confirm that my approach for comparing
2
> slopes was correct.
>
> I ran an analysis of covariance using PROC GLM (in SAS) with an
interaction
> statement.  My understanding was that a nonsignificant interaction term
> meant that the slopes were the same, and vice versa for a significant
> interaction term.  Is this correct and is this the best way to approach
this
> problem with SAS?  Any help would certainly be apprectiated.
>
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Re: Double mediation

2001-07-14 Thread Ken Reed

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sylvia J. Hysong, Ph.D.)
> Organization: http://groups.google.com/
> Newsgroups: sci.stat.edu,comp.soft-sys.stat.spss
> Date: 5 Jul 2001 14:35:24 -0700
> Subject: Double mediation
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm hoping someone can help me with this.  I have looked at a
> multitude of resources including the David Kenny page, this and other
> newsgroups, Pedhazur (1982), Cohen & Cohen (1983), and Darlington
> (1990?), to no avail.  I am hoping someone can direct me to the right
> resource.  I am trying to conduct a test of double mediation.  In
> other words, I am trying to test the hypothesis that x-->z1-->z2-->y.
> Is there a way to do this (and if so, what is it?), or must I result
> to a path analysis or a structural equation model?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.

Would this do it?

Estimate a regression model with y as the dependent and x, z1 and z2 as
independents. That gives the direct path from z2-->y, controlling for x and
z1.

Then a second model with z2 as the dependent and x, and z1 as independents.
That gives the direct path from z1-->z2, controlling for x.

The a third model with z1 as the dependent and x as the independent.



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2001-07-14 Thread Robert R Johnson


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Late Absentee Ballot Acceptance Rates in Florida

2001-07-14 Thread J. Williams

In an exhaustive investigation, the N.Y. Times has studied the
acceptance pattern of absentee ballots which arrived in Florida
following the November election. 
 
In an analysis of the 2,490 ballots from Americans living abroad that
were counted as legal votes after  The Times found 680 questionable
votes. Although it is not known for whom the flawed ballots were cast,
4 out of 5 were accepted in counties carried by Mr. Bush, The Times
found.  

The counties carried by Mr. Gore accepted 20% that had no evidence
they were mailed on or before Election Day. Counties carried by Mr.
Bush accepted 60% of the same kinds of ballots. Bush counties were 4
times as likely as Gore counties to count ballots lacking witness
signatures and addresses.  

Since the envelopes containing the absentee ballots were separated
from the ballots themselves, no information about the voter was
available:  "The Times asked Gary King, a Harvard expert on voting
patterns and statistical models, what would have happened had the
flawed ballots been discarded. He concluded that there was no way to
declare a winner with mathematical certainty under those
circumstances. His best estimate, he said, was that Mr. Bush's margin
would have been reduced to 245 votes. Dr. King estimated that there
was only a slight chance that discarding the questionable ballots
would have made Mr. Gore the winner. "

It just gets curiouser and curiouser.   

If interested, the complete article is online:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/15/national/15BALL.html








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Re: Alscal vs. NCSS

2001-07-14 Thread EugeneGall

NMDS can get trapped in local minima.  It is advisable to use several random
configurations as starting points and choose the solution with the lowest
Stress (Kruskal or Young's - I don't have a preference).  I checked SPSS and it
doesn't have a random initial configuration that I could see.  That is an
option with the Bell labs KYST-2 program that I use (an old Fortran version)


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Alscal vs. NCSS

2001-07-14 Thread Niko Tiliopoulos

Dear all,

I have two questions regarding MDS:

1. I have run an NMDS through Alscal (SPSS) and NCSS, and the
representations of the variables on a 2-dimensional map look
completely different. As far as I can tell, I am using the same
procedure in both algorhythms, so I cannot understand why I get
different results, and which one I should prefer as more accurate.

2. Does anyone know which of the following two stress indices should
be used with data from psychometric instruments (e.g. personality
questionnaire):

Kruskal's or Guttman-Lingoes?

Thank you

Niko Tiliopoulos


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