Re: Fundamental differences between Statistics and Data Mining?
T.S. Lim wrote: > I'm attempting to compile an online list of the fundamental differences > between our field Statistics and Data Mining. Several online references > that touch on the topic include > >http://www-stat.stanford.edu/~jhf/ftp/dm-stat.ps >http://www.acm.org/sigkdd/explorations/issue1-1/contents.htm#Hand >http://www.acm.org/sigkdd/explorations/issue1-2/contents.htm#mannila > > Let me know your point of view or opinion. Thanks much. > Can I add the magnificent Greater and Lesser Statistics: A Choice for Future Research J. M. Chambers from http://www.wavelet.org/who/jmc/pub.html I find it almost unbearably sad. It certainly suggests that, while the statistical community might have the knowledge and skills to address `data mining' style problems, its value-system makes it unwilling to do so -- or to value the work if it is attempted. There are af course many honourable exceptions, including Chambers himself. Peter = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =
Re: Fundamental differences between Statistics and Data Mining?
Here are two other sources that may be relevant: "Putting Data Minig in its Place" by D. Pyle (used to be at http://www.vldb.com/articles/Pyle/pyle.html; can't access it at the moment) "Data Mining from a Statistical Perspective" by J. Maindonald (http://wwwmaths.anu.edu.au/~johnm/dm/dmpaper.html) As a user of statistical and/or other DM methods at best, rather than providing an amateur opinion, I can only thank you for the references you have provided. Gaj Vidmar Univ. of Ljubljana, Dept. of Psychology = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =
Re: Fundamental differences between Statistics and Data Mining?
In article <8v087k$tm5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, T.S. Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm attempting to compile an online list of the fundamental differences > between our field Statistics and Data Mining. Several online references > that touch on the topic include > >http://www-stat.stanford.edu/~jhf/ftp/dm-stat.ps >http://www.acm.org/sigkdd/explorations/issue1-1/contents.htm#Hand >http://www.acm.org/sigkdd/explorations/issue1- 2/contents.htm#mannila > > Let me know your point of view or opinion. Thanks much. More references have been posted at http://www.recursive-partitioning.com/dcforum/DCForumID4/2.html -- T.S. Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.Recursive-Partitioning.com _ Get paid to write reviews! http://recursive-partitioning.epinions.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =
Re: Fundamental differences between Statistics and Data Mining?
>> I'm attempting to compile an online list of the fundamental differences >> between our field Statistics and Data Mining. Several online references >> that touch on the topic include It's very simple. Data Mining is everything they taught you _not_ do do when you took statistics. -- --(Signature) Robert M. Hamer 732 235 4218 Use my last name @rci.rutgers.edu "Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens" -- Schiller = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =
Re: Fundamental differences between Statistics and Data Mining?
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --7016062B1E244333164619B2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, my opinion is that datamining is just a marketing name, because datamining techniques are a part of statistics. May be an exception to this is neural networks, but I believe that good neural networks use also statistics. Francois. "T.S. Lim" wrote: > I'm attempting to compile an online list of the fundamental differences > between our field Statistics and Data Mining. Several online references > that touch on the topic include > >http://www-stat.stanford.edu/~jhf/ftp/dm-stat.ps >http://www.acm.org/sigkdd/explorations/issue1-1/contents.htm#Hand >http://www.acm.org/sigkdd/explorations/issue1-2/contents.htm#mannila > > Let me know your point of view or opinion. Thanks much. > > -- > T.S. Lim > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.Recursive-Partitioning.com > _ > Get paid to write reviews! http://recursive-partitioning.epinions.com > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. --7016062B1E244333164619B2 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="francois.bergeret.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Francois Bergeret Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="francois.bergeret.vcf" begin:vcard n:Bergeret;Francois tel;work:33-561191205 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Motorola;Device Engineering, MOS20 adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Statistician and Six Sigma Black Belt x-mozilla-cpt:;-28000 fn:Bergeret, Francois end:vcard --7016062B1E244333164619B2-- = Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =
